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Not sure the Chinese have any input to the control technology at HPC. I thought they mainly provided the finance but could be wrong. Also, I thought we dropped Huawei because Trump told us to on the pretence of security but really because they were challenging US business?morstar said:
You know everything runs on computers?First.Aspect said:
It isn't. The infrastructure is entirely here. If the cooling water was piped from the Yangtze it would be comparable.morstar said:
He has a point. Ultimately you could say (I did and I’m sure others did too) getting the Chinese involved in UK nuclear energy is comparable.rick_chasey said:
Chinese happen to invest a lot of energy in hacking.
Getting potentially hostile nations involved in infrastructure is the common thread.
We dropped Huawei from 5g for concerns about security.0 -
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Looks like the UK & Swedish developed NLAW anti tank weapon is doing a bit of damage:
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/25/british-anti-tank-nlaw-destroy-russian-tanks-ukraine/"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Made in Belfast apparently“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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OK, several points to address.Pross said:
Not sure the Chinese have any input to the control technology at HPC. I thought they mainly provided the finance but could be wrong. Also, I thought we dropped Huawei because Trump told us to on the pretence of security but really because they were challenging US business?morstar said:
You know everything runs on computers?First.Aspect said:
It isn't. The infrastructure is entirely here. If the cooling water was piped from the Yangtze it would be comparable.morstar said:
He has a point. Ultimately you could say (I did and I’m sure others did too) getting the Chinese involved in UK nuclear energy is comparable.rick_chasey said:
Chinese happen to invest a lot of energy in hacking.
Getting potentially hostile nations involved in infrastructure is the common thread.
We dropped Huawei from 5g for concerns about security.
Yes, money played a big part in both Huawei and nuclear plant.
Whilst reticent to describe China as hostile, they are not a benevolent ally.
I do not want to be heavily dependent on them for funding, I do not want them to be at the heart of our communication infrastructure.
Trump is a moron but doesn’t mean he was wrong about everything. Making yourself heavily dependent on non-friendly countries is highly likely to be problematic at some juncture.
Trump is calling out Germany, i have many concerns about UK policies. It’s not like many decisions aren’t made with short term personal gain as influencing factors rather than balanced consideration of national interest.0 -
Yes Merkel’s legacy is looking worse by the day. In hindsight some very large miscalculations.
Show of hands, who’s for the UK beefing up the military?0 -
https://www.ft.com/content/c039db89-7201-4875-b31f-b41a511496f1
He’s even more isolated than Stalin,” says Gleb Pavlovsky, a former adviser. “In the last years of his life, Stalin didn’t come to the Kremlin and lived in his dacha, but the politburo came to see him and they talked and drank. Putin doesn’t have that. He’s as isolated as he can be. And in that situation rational issues become irrational.”0 -
Read an article 3 or 4 years ago saying how Putins empire was not only based on the USSR but would ultimately collapse in the same way.
USSR relied on keeping the guys at the top comfortable and isolated from the failures of the state. Ultimately the ability to channel
Money where it needed to go became impossible.
It drew parallels to Putin only the leaders of the communist party have been replaced by the oligarchs.
Presumably he is reaching the point where he can no longer control them. The outward act of aggression probably serves two purposes. A united national
endeavour against an enemy and access to Ukrainian resources as a carrot for his restless oligarchs.0 -
USAF MC-130J Commando aircraft from Mildenhall creeping about near the Polish /Ukrainian border last night. Their job is to fuel Special Ops Osprey aircraft that were obviously not showing up on any trackers.
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I don't disagree with any of that, it just felt like you were implying they would be able to potentially install some kind of backdoor to our nuclear power stations. I was just pointing out that, as far as I'm aware, they aren't involved in providing the actual equipment that could enable that.morstar said:
OK, several points to address.Pross said:
Not sure the Chinese have any input to the control technology at HPC. I thought they mainly provided the finance but could be wrong. Also, I thought we dropped Huawei because Trump told us to on the pretence of security but really because they were challenging US business?morstar said:
You know everything runs on computers?First.Aspect said:
It isn't. The infrastructure is entirely here. If the cooling water was piped from the Yangtze it would be comparable.morstar said:
He has a point. Ultimately you could say (I did and I’m sure others did too) getting the Chinese involved in UK nuclear energy is comparable.rick_chasey said:
Chinese happen to invest a lot of energy in hacking.
Getting potentially hostile nations involved in infrastructure is the common thread.
We dropped Huawei from 5g for concerns about security.
Yes, money played a big part in both Huawei and nuclear plant.
Whilst reticent to describe China as hostile, they are not a benevolent ally.
I do not want to be heavily dependent on them for funding, I do not want them to be at the heart of our communication infrastructure.
Trump is a moron but doesn’t mean he was wrong about everything. Making yourself heavily dependent on non-friendly countries is highly likely to be problematic at some juncture.
Trump is calling out Germany, i have many concerns about UK policies. It’s not like many decisions aren’t made with short term personal gain as influencing factors rather than balanced consideration of national interest.0 -
Completely insane…but also unsurprising.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/russia-deploys-mobile-crematorium-follow-troops-battle/0 -
The reality is that whatever we do we would be bit part players.rick_chasey said:Yes Merkel’s legacy is looking worse by the day. In hindsight some very large miscalculations.
Show of hands, who’s for the UK beefing up the military?
We fail to recruit and retain soldiers for the current intended army size so have no idea where you would find the extra beef1 -
Ignorance on my part. I just don’t want them anywhere near it.Pross said:
I don't disagree with any of that, it just felt like you were implying they would be able to potentially install some kind of backdoor to our nuclear power stations. I was just pointing out that, as far as I'm aware, they aren't involved in providing the actual equipment that could enable that.morstar said:
OK, several points to address.Pross said:
Not sure the Chinese have any input to the control technology at HPC. I thought they mainly provided the finance but could be wrong. Also, I thought we dropped Huawei because Trump told us to on the pretence of security but really because they were challenging US business?morstar said:
You know everything runs on computers?First.Aspect said:
It isn't. The infrastructure is entirely here. If the cooling water was piped from the Yangtze it would be comparable.morstar said:
He has a point. Ultimately you could say (I did and I’m sure others did too) getting the Chinese involved in UK nuclear energy is comparable.rick_chasey said:
Chinese happen to invest a lot of energy in hacking.
Getting potentially hostile nations involved in infrastructure is the common thread.
We dropped Huawei from 5g for concerns about security.
Yes, money played a big part in both Huawei and nuclear plant.
Whilst reticent to describe China as hostile, they are not a benevolent ally.
I do not want to be heavily dependent on them for funding, I do not want them to be at the heart of our communication infrastructure.
Trump is a moron but doesn’t mean he was wrong about everything. Making yourself heavily dependent on non-friendly countries is highly likely to be problematic at some juncture.
Trump is calling out Germany, i have many concerns about UK policies. It’s not like many decisions aren’t made with short term personal gain as influencing factors rather than balanced consideration of national interest.
It’s easy to fall into conspiracy and scaremongering but conversely, don’t become dependent on nation states with fundamentally different ideals.0 -
Very disappointing but not surprised at how both Germany and Italy are hindering the EUs efforts to impose tough sanctions. Times like this show how individual interests trump collective ones.0
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rick_chasey said:
Yes Merkel’s legacy is looking worse by the day. In hindsight some very large miscalculations.
Completely agree, the German reliance on Russian gas has for some time stood out as being a very weird decision. Kinda like riding on the back of a Tiger, everything is fine and dandy until the Tiger wants you off.........0 -
In case anyone had doubt on who’s side Farage is.0 -
War in the social media era
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
You think the war stays in Ukraine?surrey_commuter said:
The reality is that whatever we do we would be bit part players.rick_chasey said:Yes Merkel’s legacy is looking worse by the day. In hindsight some very large miscalculations.
Show of hands, who’s for the UK beefing up the military?
We fail to recruit and retain soldiers for the current intended army size so have no idea where you would find the extra beef
from what I am reading about Putin I am increasingly sceptical.
If what I understand is right (this is a very large caveat) NATO is relying rather heavily on the resolve of Ukraine to bleed the Russians dry enough to put them off gong anywhere else.
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Class behaviour. If Putin thought they were gonna run, and Zelenskiy specifically was gonna run, he’s there saying ✌🏻 we’re not going anywhere, ya c@nt.tailwindhome said:War in the social media era
I think Putin is stuck in 1992 and he was expecting capitulation.
I think he genuinely thought they’d welcome their big brother.
As impressed with Ukrainian resolve as I am disgusted with Russia.
FWIW it seems Russians are continuing to attack without full combined arms and are still avoiding mass firepower, which is costly for them - a lot of their top troops are overly exposed. Eg latest amphibious assault had no air cover
If they return to mass firepower death rate on both sides will surely be substantially higher.
Also read Ukrainians are letting the sharp point of attacks through and are hitting the logistics guys behind who are sticking their head in the noose and are getting exposed.
Fingers crossed Ukraine keeps the resolve and makes the Russians pay very very dearly0 -
He’s an utter disgrace. Him and Aaron Banks are pathetic. File alongside Abbott, McDonnell and potato-head Burgon.rick_chasey said:
In case anyone had doubt on who’s side Farage is.
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Ukrainians aren't a people to be taken lightly it seemsrick_chasey said:
Class behaviour. If Putin thought they were gonna run, and Zelenskiy specifically was gonna run, he’s there saying ✌🏻 we’re not going anywhere, ya c@nt.tailwindhome said:War in the social media era
I think Putin is stuck in 1992 and he was expecting capitulation.
I think he genuinely thought they’d welcome their big brother.
As impressed with Ukrainian resolve as I am disgusted with Russia.
FWIW it seems Russians are continuing to attack without full combined arms and are still avoiding mass firepower, which is costly for them - a lot of their top troops are overly exposed. Eg latest amphibious assault had no air cover
If they return to mass firepower death rate on both sides will surely be substantially higher.
Also read Ukrainians are letting the sharp point of attacks through and are hitting the logistics guys behind who are sticking their head in the noose and are getting exposed.
Fingers crossed Ukraine keeps the resolve and makes the Russians pay very very dearly
Interesting quote on the twitter from a war studies academic, that 'he's building a national unifying myth in real time.'
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
surrey_commuter said:
I know it is an attempt at a joke, but they’re backing Ukraine far more than some of their neighbours.0 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Also why is the Uk making it difficult to take on Ukrainian refugees?
The state of it. Disgraceful0 -
Starmer should do it now. Leopards and spots.rick_chasey said:Certainly if the labour lot keep this up they need to be deselected from the party.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I read an article yesterday which was along very similar lines.morstar said:Read an article 3 or 4 years ago saying how Putins empire was not only based on the USSR but would ultimately collapse in the same way.
USSR relied on keeping the guys at the top comfortable and isolated from the failures of the state. Ultimately the ability to channel
Money where it needed to go became impossible.
It drew parallels to Putin only the leaders of the communist party have been replaced by the oligarchs.
Presumably he is reaching the point where he can no longer control them. The outward act of aggression probably serves two purposes. A united national
endeavour against an enemy and access to Ukrainian resources as a carrot for his restless oligarchs."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Interesting - got a link to where you get this info?thegreatdivide said:USAF MC-130J Commando aircraft from Mildenhall creeping about near the Polish /Ukrainian border last night. Their job is to fuel Special Ops Osprey aircraft that were obviously not showing up on any trackers.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
