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Stevo_666 said:
Ukraine off to a good start in the New Year:
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/02/hundreds-killed-ukrainian-himars-flatten-russian-barracks-one/
Assuming that reporting to be correct, it sounds like the Ruskies didn't stand much of a chance against a switched-on adversary: loads of them in the same building; lots of live ammunitions stored there; using their mobiles en masse. Boom.
One of the corrosive things is feeling some sense of 'justice' at the mass loss of life of what must be untrained conscripts, but until Putin changes course, I think it's the natural reaction.0 -
Unfortunately this is war. And from a Ukrainian point of view I'm sure few tears will be shed.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:Ukraine off to a good start in the New Year:
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/02/hundreds-killed-ukrainian-himars-flatten-russian-barracks-one/
Assuming that reporting to be correct, it sounds like the Ruskies didn't stand much of a chance against a switched-on adversary: loads of them in the same building; lots of live ammunitions stored there; using their mobiles en masse. Boom.
One of the corrosive things is feeling some sense of 'justice' at the mass loss of life of what must be untrained conscripts, but until Putin changes course, I think it's the natural reaction."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
suppose the same goes for the women and children the Russians are firing cruise missiles at.briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:Ukraine off to a good start in the New Year:
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/01/02/hundreds-killed-ukrainian-himars-flatten-russian-barracks-one/
Assuming that reporting to be correct, it sounds like the Ruskies didn't stand much of a chance against a switched-on adversary: loads of them in the same building; lots of live ammunitions stored there; using their mobiles en masse. Boom.
One of the corrosive things is feeling some sense of 'justice' at the mass loss of life of what must be untrained conscripts, but until Putin changes course, I think it's the natural reaction.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fellas tbh..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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untrained or not - and these were trained - you're still in uniform in someone else's country in the middle of a war you started illegally..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
untrained or not - and these were trained - you're still in uniform in someone else's country in the middle of a war you started illegally.
Yes, it's not that it's not entirely justified (and apparently well executed), it's just the effect that war has on ones own reaction to death which is the issue, even though I realise it's unavoidable when people start wars, and other people justly defend themselves.0 -
how do you mean "the effect war has on ones own reaction to death"?briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:untrained or not - and these were trained - you're still in uniform in someone else's country in the middle of a war you started illegally.
Yes, it's not that it's not entirely justified (and apparently well executed), it's just the effect that war has on ones own reaction to death which is the issue, even though I realise it's unavoidable when people start wars, and other people justly defend themselves..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
how do you mean "the effect war has on ones own reaction to death"?briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:untrained or not - and these were trained - you're still in uniform in someone else's country in the middle of a war you started illegally.
Yes, it's not that it's not entirely justified (and apparently well executed), it's just the effect that war has on ones own reaction to death which is the issue, even though I realise it's unavoidable when people start wars, and other people justly defend themselves.
Not liking the fact that I can kinda inwardly 'celebrate' the killing of Putin's war fodder.0 -
A vaguely interesting Twitter thread, with all the usual caveats about the source of opinion:
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To bring this discussion back up to date, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/06/roman-abramovich-trusts-transfer-leak-russia-sanctionsDorset_Boy said:
You're a nobody so of course not.rick_chasey said:
If I turned up to conduct peace negotiations I’d be told to p!ss off.Dorset_Boy said:
Have you read anything about these talks, because it doesn't come across like you have.rick_chasey said:
Nothing to do with Putin is he oh no.Pross said:The story about Abramovich and others seemingly being poisoned is quite worrying. I also hadn't realised he'd been involved in peace negotiations
He’s just your regular aluminium magnate billionaire 🙄🙄
There’s a reason why they will talk to Abramovic.
It’s not because he’s a businessman who loves his London football team, is it?
But if you were a billionaire affected by the sanctions and considered someone who just might be able to effect regime change, then just maybe the Ukrainians would speak to you.
But you clearly know more than Frank Gardner.
It turns out he either knew the date before the invasion, or it’s Putin’s money.
Gotta love the role the offshore finance industry play in this. Shysters.0 -
One for @MattFalle
Report of an unexploded grenade being surgically removed from a Ukrainian soldier's chest.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jan/12/russia-ukraine-war-fight-for-soledar-continues-says-zelenskiy-kyiv-fortifying-border-with-belarus-live?CMP=share_btn_tw&page=with:block-63bf90ce8f085fda3e65d15e#block-63bf90ce8f085fda3e65d15e1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition1 -
Mega stuff! Thankyou very much!
Stuff like this is randomnly quite common - malfunctioning ordinance, stuff not reaching timiing distances, soft impact, sheer luck, etc.
I've got this mad, mad, mad respect for doctors: I think they are absolutely amazing: stuff like this bigs them up even more to me.
One from Afghan days for you:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/2020/unexploded-bomb-soldiers-body-docs-save/story?id=13678066.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Ooh, don't call surgeons 'doctor'. 😀1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 v v correct!
depends on what colour your clothes are - we tend to be quite informal 😎.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I'm trying to work out how a grenade ended up in his chest to start with. I assume it was a rocket propelled variant rather than a hand thrown version. If it was hand thrown the Russian soldier should get signed up by a Major League baseball team!0
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In other news, looks like Surovikin has been demoted and its the turn of Gerasimov to fail to make any progress. Whether this will change the tactics of bombing civilian infrastructure who knows."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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Will Surovikin fall from a balcony?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
And our Ukrainian house guest will be moving on at the end of March. Mrs. 666 feels that she needs a break and tbh we are a bit sceptical about her really being in need of being here, given that she is going back to Ukraine for 3 weeks next month to see her family and one of her mates who has just had a baby..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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House guests moving on seems to be quite a common thing atm tbh, people feeling that after 6 months residency they should be able to settle by themselves, increased costs of people living with you affecting cost of living crisis, etc, etc.Stevo_666 said:And our Ukrainian house guest will be moving on at the end of March. Mrs. 666 feels that she needs a break and tbh we are a bit sceptical about her really being in need of being here, given that she is going back to Ukraine for 3 weeks next month to see her family and one of her mates who has just had a baby...
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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they've got rid of one bloke who was renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics to another bloke renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics.Stevo_666 said:In other news, looks like Surovikin has been demoted and its the turn of Gerasimov to fail to make any progress. Whether this will change the tactics of bombing civilian infrastructure who knows.
think that the only thing to make change in bombing civpop is the fact they are running out of cruise missiles
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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fired from underslung grenade launcher in this case.Pross said:I'm trying to work out how a grenade ended up in his chest to start with. I assume it was a rocket propelled variant rather than a hand thrown version. If it was hand thrown the Russian soldier should get signed up by a Major League baseball team!
strapped to tinny rail on rifle. close quarters stuff. normally quite effective. in this case, moderately inconvenient.
RPG is that Soviet stuff made famous by Johnny, Indy and Terry..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Quite possibly. What tactics is Gerasimov renowned for using?MattFalle said:
they've got rid of one bloke who was renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics to another bloke renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics.Stevo_666 said:In other news, looks like Surovikin has been demoted and its the turn of Gerasimov to fail to make any progress. Whether this will change the tactics of bombing civilian infrastructure who knows.
think that the only thing to make change in bombing civpop is the fact they are running out of cruise missiles"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Tbh I reckon we are washing our faces on the costs as the council chips in £400 a month. Its more that Mrs. 666 feels she'll have had enough by time the 6 months are up and the point that real refugees don't go on 3 week holidays back to the place they are supposed to be fleeing.MattFalle said:
House guests moving on seems to be quite a common thing atm tbh, people feeling that after 6 months residency they should be able to settle by themselves, increased costs of people living with you affecting cost of living crisis, etc, etc.Stevo_666 said:And our Ukrainian house guest will be moving on at the end of March. Mrs. 666 feels that she needs a break and tbh we are a bit sceptical about her really being in need of being here, given that she is going back to Ukraine for 3 weeks next month to see her family and one of her mates who has just had a baby...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
they both like a nice bit of indiscriminate bombing, breaches of LOAC, turning blind eye to civpop cas.Stevo_666 said:
Quite possibly. What tactics is Gerasimov renowned for using?MattFalle said:
they've got rid of one bloke who was renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics to another bloke renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics.Stevo_666 said:In other news, looks like Surovikin has been demoted and its the turn of Gerasimov to fail to make any progress. Whether this will change the tactics of bombing civilian infrastructure who knows.
think that the only thing to make change in bombing civpop is the fact they are running out of cruise missiles
essentially they don't care what they levrl to meet end aim.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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He's unlikely to be more moderate, is he?Stevo_666 said:
Quite possibly. What tactics is Gerasimov renowned for using?MattFalle said:
they've got rid of one bloke who was renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics to another bloke renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics.Stevo_666 said:In other news, looks like Surovikin has been demoted and its the turn of Gerasimov to fail to make any progress. Whether this will change the tactics of bombing civilian infrastructure who knows.
think that the only thing to make change in bombing civpop is the fact they are running out of cruise missiles0 -
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tbh, moderacy isn't a talking point slthough it actually wouldn't be a bad point (ie they aren't succeeding with current tactics, so why carry on? sll they are foing is wasting limited resources) they should be looking for someone with a different tactical approach.First.Aspect said:
He's unlikely to be more moderate, is he?Stevo_666 said:
Quite possibly. What tactics is Gerasimov renowned for using?MattFalle said:
they've got rid of one bloke who was renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics to another bloke renowned for using v v v dodgy tactics.Stevo_666 said:In other news, looks like Surovikin has been demoted and its the turn of Gerasimov to fail to make any progress. Whether this will change the tactics of bombing civilian infrastructure who knows.
think that the only thing to make change in bombing civpop is the fact they are running out of cruise missiles
they're actually not worried about civpop issues because they think they can bomb Ukr. into submission, but this isn't working..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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At what point does Russia decide that it doesn't want the bombed out shithole anyway?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
it doesn'tpblakeney said:At what point does Russia decide that it doesn't want the bombed out censored anyway?
ideologically they want it, militarily they won't admit failure politically it will be a nightmare.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I can't see them wanting to rebuild it either.MattFalle said:
it doesn'tpblakeney said:At what point does Russia decide that it doesn't want the bombed out censored anyway?
ideologically they want it, militarily they won't admit failure politically it will be a nightmare.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Not sure if it'll have the desired effect, but Ukraine's collective sense of humour hasn't diminished...
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