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Jeez, why don’t you just marry him already!focuszing723 said:
You've designed jack all. He put his own cash behind a star shot and through hard work and genius it paid off. Three years he slept on the shop floor with the model three's production.Jezyboy said:
He designed jack all.focuszing723 said:
Come on you bunch of cave dwellers. He's managed to design and make the first commercial reusable rocket and take human's into space with it! Make the first viable production EV road car, also Starlink has been proven to work and viable even on boats/yachts!Jezyboy said:
One of Musk's great successes is in managing to persuade the more right leaning Americans that you can drive an electric car without being a liberal.Pross said:Musk Tweet is a bit weird as I would have thought there’s a large crossover between people with a social conscience who support Ukraine and people with a social conscience who would consider changing to an EV. Instead he gets support from people who probably drive around in 6.0 litre muscle cars and pick up trucks.
He's also a bit of a tool.
Give the bloke some credit for advancing Humanity.
Also, this $h1t about minerals and twitter. Wasn't Musk the one who willingly took the risk against the wrath of Putin to give the Ukrainians Starlink.
At least do a bit of research or something, rather than tap away randomly on a keyboard, for gawd sake!
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Now look, I'm not playing with you lot anymore, you're all wearing me down.0
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Like a bloody GTI without any oil in it.0
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Brrrrrrrrrr, brrrrrrrrr, BANG!0
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Never mind all the Eagle Comic stuff. I am interested in what you think of his proposal for Ukraine.focuszing723 said:
Yeah mate,rjsterry said:
Have you read his proposal?focuszing723 said:
Come on you bunch of cave dwellers. He's managed to design and make the first commercial reusable rocket and take human's into space with it! Make the first viable production EV road car, also Starlink has been proven to work and viable even on boats/yachts!Jezyboy said:
One of Musk's great successes is in managing to persuade the more right leaning Americans that you can drive an electric car without being a liberal.Pross said:Musk Tweet is a bit weird as I would have thought there’s a large crossover between people with a social conscience who support Ukraine and people with a social conscience who would consider changing to an EV. Instead he gets support from people who probably drive around in 6.0 litre muscle cars and pick up trucks.
He's also a bit of a tool.
Give the bloke some credit for advancing Humanity.
Also, this $h1t about minerals and twitter. Wasn't Musk the one who willingly took the risk against the wrath of Putin to give the Ukrainians Starlink.
At least do a bit of research or something, rather than tap away randomly on a keyboard, for gawd sake!
Built a rocket and sent some blokes to space (also reusable), built an electric car which are now used around the world with their own charging network and launch a load of satellites into space so the internet can even be used at sea with a fast connection.
Like I've said before, the rest is just waffle. Just be thankful of his contribution to humanity.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I would like to think the mentality behind it, is to avoid nuclear war. Again, if it's all about resources, why antagonise in the first place with Starlink equipment to Ukraine?
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You do both remember Musk gave the Ukrainians Starlink equipment?0
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Without people like Musk, you wouldn't be a proud owner of a Triumph Bonneville, you'd be still p1ssin about on a dandy horse.ddraver said:Wow, you've got it baaad....
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I thought we ate horses on here so how could we ride them?0
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He's suggesting that parts of Ukraine that Russia claims and where to a large extent Russian occupiers have tortured and murdered dissenting Ukrainians, should hold binding referenda to decide whether anyone left alive wants to be part of Russia. While Russia still occupies that part of Ukraine.focuszing723 said:I would like to think the mentality behind it, is to avoid nuclear war. Again, if it's all about resources, why antagonise in the first place with Starlink equipment to Ukraine?
Such referenda can never be fair or representative with a large part of the population dead, fled or intimidated.
And even if the vote going Ukraine's way, you think Russia would just leave?
Oh, and Ukraine has to renounce a large chunk of its sovereignty so as not to upset the aging fascist next door in return for having their own blown-to-hell country back.
No.
F*** that.
All the rockets, satellites and overpriced cars in the world don't qualify him to tell Ukraine what it should do.
Who the f*** does Musk think he is?
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I like the US's response to Putin's nuclear willy-waving... do that, and you'll see what our conventional arms, in our hands, will do to what's left of your Baltic fleet and army in Ukraine... seems that the message has been delivered directly to Putin, not via Twitter.0
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I wonder how his proposals would go down if Putin fancied annexing Alaska.rjsterry said:
All the rockets, satellites and overpriced cars in the world don't qualify him to tell Ukraine what it should do.
Who the f*** does Musk think he is?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You obviously never give into nuclear threats from aggressors and it’s incumbent on nuclear powers to make clear MAD still exists.0
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rick_chasey said:
You obviously never give into nuclear threats from aggressors and it’s incumbent on nuclear powers to make clear MAD still exists.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I think this is s good thread... up to date at the end....
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The fact the Russians gave up advancing a few weeks back and yet are now capitulating…
Have they got a fundamental lack of morale, troops and equipment left or what else has been the mechanism for the shift to what is hopefully an irreversible slide?0 -
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Can’t get past the paywall on my phone, but this mornings MoD update suggests there might not be much of a well trained defence, or a will to fight.briantrumpet said:
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We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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didn't he also use a tiny part of his parents' fortune from their gem mine to help his start up? you know, the gem mine in South Africa they had during apartheid times?ddraver said:
This is the fella who used to play with diamonds and walk around with pockets full of gems as a nipper, yah?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Zip2, former American technology company (1995–99) that was the first enterprise founded by Elon Musk. It provided a searchable business directory that could be described as an Internet version of the yellow pages telephone directory with maps included.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zip2
Musk conceived the idea of making it possible for computer users to find local businesses at a time when computers were not yet ubiquitous. He brought on his brother, Kimbal Musk, and a friend, Gregory Kouri, as partners. In 1995, after acquiring a disc containing a business directory, Musk persuaded Navteq, a provider of electronic navigable maps, to give him free mapping software. He then wrote the code necessary to put the two databases—business listing and map—together. Musk described the company’s mission by saying that everyone ought to be able to find the closest pizza parlour and to be able to figure out how to get there.
Unable to persuade potential investors to give them financing, Musk and his partners lived in their office to keep expenses low. The company expanded its listing by convincing businesses to pay for inclusion, and, after about a year, in early 1996, Mohr Davidow Ventures agreed to invest some $3 million in Zip2 in exchange for majority ownership. In addition, Musk was replaced as CEO by a more experienced businessman, Richard Sorkin, but remained executive vice president and chief technology officer.
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So the company was doing so poorly they had to sleep on the office floor, and eventually he got replaced as CEO. Got it.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Not making any money for the first couple of years of trading while you get established is hardly unheard-of.focuszing723 said:Zip2, former American technology company (1995–99) that was the first enterprise founded by Elon Musk. It provided a searchable business directory that could be described as an Internet version of the yellow pages telephone directory with maps included.https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zip2
Musk conceived the idea of making it possible for computer users to find local businesses at a time when computers were not yet ubiquitous. He brought on his brother, Kimbal Musk, and a friend, Gregory Kouri, as partners. In 1995, after acquiring a disc containing a business directory, Musk persuaded Navteq, a provider of electronic navigable maps, to give him free mapping software. He then wrote the code necessary to put the two databases—business listing and map—together. Musk described the company’s mission by saying that everyone ought to be able to find the closest pizza parlour and to be able to figure out how to get there.
Unable to persuade potential investors to give them financing, Musk and his partners lived in their office to keep expenses low. The company expanded its listing by convincing businesses to pay for inclusion, and, after about a year, in early 1996, Mohr Davidow Ventures agreed to invest some $3 million in Zip2 in exchange for majority ownership. In addition, Musk was replaced as CEO by a more experienced businessman, Richard Sorkin, but remained executive vice president and chief technology officer.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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pangolin said:
So the company was doing so poorly they had to sleep on the office floor, and eventually he got replaced as CEO. Got it.
In April 1998, Zip2 attempted to merge with CitySearch, its main competitor. While Musk initially supported the merger, he persuaded the board of directors not to proceed with it. According to The New York Times, the two companies "cited incompatibilities in cultures and technology" as the reason for the merger's failure.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip2
In February 1999, Compaq Computer paid US$305 million to acquire Zip2. Elon and Kimbal Musk, the original founders, netted US$22 million and US$15 million respectively.0 -
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Yeah so it sold for a lot several years after he was replaced as CEO...focuszing723 said:pangolin said:So the company was doing so poorly they had to sleep on the office floor, and eventually he got replaced as CEO. Got it.
In April 1998, Zip2 attempted to merge with CitySearch, its main competitor. While Musk initially supported the merger, he persuaded the board of directors not to proceed with it. According to The New York Times, the two companies "cited incompatibilities in cultures and technology" as the reason for the merger's failure.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip2
In February 1999, Compaq Computer paid US$305 million to acquire Zip2. Elon and Kimbal Musk, the original founders, netted US$22 million and US$15 million respectively.Musk was ousted as CEO in 1996, however, when the board of directors decided to install a more experienced leader in his stead.
https://time.com/6170834/elon-musk-business-timeline-twitter/- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Been hitting the salt again Focus. You know it will end in tears.focuszing723 said:Facts speak louder than horse $h1t.
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