Poo tin... Put@in...

Stevo_666

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

pangolin

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where someone already pointed out what France and Germany have done?

Expand the posts I just quoted

Stevo_666

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where someone already pointed out what France and Germany have done?

Expand the posts I just quoted

Just amended my post. Try answering that as well.

monkimark

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

Stevo_666

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

MattFalle

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

monkimark

Your point has changed 3 times, every time someone responded to it.

Stevo_666 said:

My point stands.

ddraver

😂🤣😂

rjsterry

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

Not really. Just a question of degree. And let's just gloss over Yemen.

MattFalle

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

Not really. Just a question of degree. And let's just gloss over Yemen.

what - British arms sales of cluster bombs, anti personnel mines, jets, etc to Saudi - you know the regime that executed 80 people last month long, murdered and hacked to bits
journalist in their embassey, has appalling LGBTQ issues, refuses equal status for women and generally has an appalling human rights record - that are then used on Yemeni civilians?

Nah fam, gloss over that one. Nothing to see here. Nope nothing at all. Nothing nothing nothing....

imposter2.0

MattFalle said:

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

As above. Sales of defence kit overseas doesn't happen without UK MoD granting an export licence.

Stevo_666

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

Stevo_666

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

Not really. Just a question of degree. And let's just gloss over Yemen.

Who they were sold to is also rather relevant here.

Stevo_666

ddraver said:

😂🤣😂

Hi there Raver boy. Thanks for your valuable contribution, as ever

Stevo_666

imposter2.0 said:

Stevo_666 said:

imposter2.0 said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Stevo_666 said:

briantrumpet said:

Talking of Poot'n...

https://twitter.com/TSJPhillips/status/1517217288814055425

Obviously very staged. Interesting commentary on it here:
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/21/vladimir-putins-liberation-mariupol-really-tells-us-war/

You'd have thought if it was staged, Putin might have been coached not to look like he was on life support. Can't see him doing any more shirtless horse-riding for the press...

There's definitely something not quite right with him based on that clip.

It's been widely discussed that he has Parkinson's and this clip seems to underline a lot of the symptoms - if Parkinson's specialists and other medical professionals posting on Twitter are to be believed...

Unfortunately that can take a long time to become really serious.

It has taken a long time. And apparently now it is at quite an advanced stage.

Let's hope it is. And progressing quickly. The Parkinsons theory is quite plausible.

MattFalle

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

all of them are bang to rights and non of it should of happened.

the entire arms trade is dirty and sordid with everyone paying each other and bribing each other.

so no export licences granted? i'm presuming they stuffed the stuff in their pockets and walked it through customs a la Great Escape.... Tom, Dick Harry and BAE

"is that am 80mm mortar shell in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?"

Govt knew about it, Govt approved it.

DeVlaeminck

Agree it's all wrong but what France and Germany have done is 50, 60 or 70x more wrong. Germany in particular seems to have been rather too close to Putin's Russia whilst dragging their feet on spending the NATO required % of GDP on defence.

I'm not making excuses for stuff GB has done elsewhere in the world but we should be able to call this out without "but Yemen" and "but Saudis". If we were criticising GBs relationship with the Saudis nobody would think a reasonable response was yeah but Germany sell arms to Russia.

rick_chasey

Germany has obvious hangovers from the GDR times and that doesn’t go away overnight.

That is why there are significant minorities who support Russia in all of this.

Pross

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

People have been critical of the German's responsethroughout. However, we only get a say in the running of the UK. I do find it worrying that any NATO country has been selling arms to Russia given the sabre rattling they've been doing for the last 10 years though.

rjsterry

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

Are you this partisan about *everything*? Nobody has given Germany and France a pass. Germany's response to Russia has been feeble; largely due to parts of the German establishment being very pro-Russian, but we're not in any position to lecture on sanction breaking arms sales.

MattFalle

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

Are you this partisan about *everything*? Nobody has given Germany and France a pass. Germany's response to Russia has been feeble; largely due to parts of the German establishment being very pro-Russian, but we're not in any position to lecture on sanction breaking arms sales.

even if he is this partisan about everything the MFs think that is A Good Thing - different thinking is what makes debate - without it it would be pretty bland.

Carry on as is Stevo.

MattFalle

tbh, surprised someone hasn't accused him of being a troll - normally its the first stop on here for someone with a different opinion.

rjsterry

MattFalle said:

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

Are you this partisan about *everything*? Nobody has given Germany and France a pass. Germany's response to Russia has been feeble; largely due to parts of the German establishment being very pro-Russian, but we're not in any position to lecture on sanction breaking arms sales.

even if he is this partisan about everything the MFs think that is A Good Thing - different thinking is what makes debate - without it it would be pretty bland.

Carry on as is Stevo.

Oh, always happy to have someone to argue with.

ddraver

It's not so much a different opinion though is it. Its faking a wedge issue while not mentioning that he/us are also on the ring side of the wedge he purports to find so "shaming".

"hang your heads is sh...no not in that direction!!!”


And that's before we get to absolutely no one in the group thinking that it's ok to break an arms embargo, let alone to Russia - which would be a different opinion...

thegreatdivide

Stevo_666

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

all of them are bang to rights and non of it should of happened.

the entire arms trade is dirty and sordid with everyone paying each other and bribing each other.

so no export licences granted? i'm presuming they stuffed the stuff in their pockets and walked it through customs a la Great Escape.... Tom, censored Harry and BAE

"is that am 80mm mortar shell in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?"

Govt knew about it, Govt approved it.

Any evidence for that?

Stevo_666

rjsterry said:

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

Are you this partisan about *everything*? Nobody has given Germany and France a pass. Germany's response to Russia has been feeble; largely due to parts of the German establishment being very pro-Russian, but we're not in any position to lecture on sanction breaking arms sales.

Just asking for views. It was interesting interesting that nobody took into account the amounts involved. I suspect that is due the inherent biases on here.

Stevo_666

Imagine the reaction on here if the position was reversed and UK had sold the amounts that France and Germany had & they had sold the amounts we had....

surrey_commuter

MattFalle said:

tbh, surprised someone hasn't accused him of being a troll - normally its the first stop on here for someone with a different opinion.

Not in Cake Stop.

MattFalle

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Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

MattFalle said:

Stevo_666 said:

monkimark said:

2.4 million euros worth to russia according to the link you posted...

As well as Germany and France, Italy was responsible for sending arms worth €22.5 million (£19 million) to Moscow after the EU embargo was imposed, while Britain made sales of €2.4 million (£2 million).

Stevo_666 said:

pangolin said:

Stevo_666 said:

France and Germany, hang your heads in shame...
https://telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/04/22/exclusive-france-germany-evaded-arms-embargo-sell-weapons-russia/

We've done this already... we're in no position to judge who other countries sell arms to.

Sorry, maybe you can point me to where the UK has been selling arms to Russia in contravention of sanctions?

You didn't mention the amounts amounts for reason. Let me help here.
France €152m
Germany €121.8m
UK €2.4m

So nearly a couple of orders of magnitude lower

The likely situation here is that the UK was a one off rogue trade, whereas France and Germany look to be deliberately thwarting the sanctions in place at the time.

My point stands.

rogue trade?

€2.4 million worth of arms? nah.

you don't punt €2.40 of arms without foreign office, MoD, full Govt approval.

Govt knew what what was going on, Govt approved it.

So the nasty tories are bang to rights but the French and Germans get a free pass for allowing 100x more?

Also if you read the link it says no export licenses were granted, so no they weren't approved.

all of them are bang to rights and non of it should of happened.

the entire arms trade is dirty and sordid with everyone paying each other and bribing each other.

so no export licences granted? i'm presuming they stuffed the stuff in their pockets and walked it through customs a la Great Escape.... Tom, censored Harry and BAE

"is that am 80mm mortar shell in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?"

Govt knew about it, Govt approved it.

Any evidence for that?

are you always this partisan about everything? 😀