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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,114
    briantrumpet said:

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    rjsterry said:

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    rick_chasey said:

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    rick_chasey said:

    Speaking to some Germans in the consulting biz. There has been a lot of people let go as a result of the war.

    She made the point that almost all of the main industries in Germany are very energy intensive.

    Hadn’t thought of it like that.

    Does "consulting" have a particular meaning in your mind?

    Your favourites, Management Consultants, of course!
    Are they the ones who go in, identify excess photocopying costs, and that by working twice as hard you can save on half the staff? Or are you talking about the ones who go in and find a way to justify the decisions that have already been made?
    Either, but for big fat juicy fees that your bosses are more than happy to pay :)


    Anyway, I hadn't factored that the economy of Germany was by nature more energy intensive so they are more exposed to energy prices compared to the more heavily service orientated UK, which explains a bit more why there is so much reticence over there about cutting off Russian Oil & Gas exports.
    It's a good point.

    We are too small to warrant consultants of that nature. But we did spend a little more than necessary (I.e. more than nothing) to rearrange the offices to make them covid safe. You'd think a bunch of PhDs would trust themselves to use a tape measure, but hey, box needed ticking.
    You really should set up your own firm. Then you'd only have yourself to moan about :)
    Am surrounded by like minded people phlegmatically getting on with it.

    People study organisational behaviour like this, you know. Is actually quite interesting.

    Dodge the phlegm, I'd advise.
    That's what the covid safe consultant said.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Looks like the flagship for the Russian Black Sea fleet has been sunk by the Ukrainians. The same boat that got told to go f@ck itself at the start.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited April 2022
    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/not-just-putin-most-russians-support-the-war-in-ukraine/

    And some evidence that most Russians do support the war.

    Pulled from here:
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,256
    rick_chasey said:

    Looks like the flagship for the Russian Black Sea fleet has been sunk by the Ukrainians. The same boat that got told to go f@ck itself at the start.


    Seems to be being confirmed to varying degrees by official Russian sources, though this seems the most specific:

    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    thegreatdivide said:


    "Successfully intercepted 2 Ukrainian Neptune Anti-Ship Missiles"
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807

  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,092
    I'm reading reports that this is the biggest naval loss since the Falklands or even before - possibly 500 lives lost?
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    DeVlaeminck said:

    I'm reading reports that this is the biggest naval loss since the Falklands or even before - possibly 500 lives lost?

    Apparently the ammo started "cooking off" after it was hit, which is not good if you're on the boat.
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    Interesting Oryx article from last August on the Ukrainian Navy's adoption of the TB2 drone and Neptune missiles:

    https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/08/black-sea-hunters-bayraktar-tb2s-in.html
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    rick_chasey said:

    https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/not-just-putin-most-russians-support-the-war-in-ukraine/

    And some evidence that most Russians do support the war.

    Pulled from here:

    Not just in Russia...

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZML4tFhyS/
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,544
    Someone needs to tell Florence that significantly more than 1.77% of Russia is in Asia!
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,491
    edited April 2022
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Someone needs to tell Florence that significantly more than 1.77% of Russia is in Asia!

    Put your reading glasses on.

    [Point] 1. [of a numbered list] 77% of Russia is in Asia.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    rjsterry said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Someone needs to tell Florence that significantly more than 1.77% of Russia is in Asia!

    Put your reading glasses on.

    [Point] 1. [of a numbered list] 77% of Russia is in Asia.

    I read it the same (and couldn't be arsed to open a Twitter thread).
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,125
    Shake it out of the old twitter machine, it's remarkable the information that can be learnt.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,092
    Russia is interesting because whatever Florence's tweet implies, about 3/4 of Russians do live in Europe and I would guess their culture and history is more European than Asian. Just why is it that over 100 years since their revolution democracy has never really taken a firm foothold ?

    Not a fan of Putin at all - I can't fathom how someone can give orders to launch an offensive campaign that kills tens or hundreds of thousands - but he did make some moves towards the West early in his "reign" and apparently feels Russia was rebuffed - a failure of long term strategy/diplomacy on the West's part? Question rather than statement.

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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    Are you eejits f***king kidding me?
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    I can't decide whether Putin's initial question of joining NATO was really just about destroying it from within. His cronies sit on all the other bodies such as the UN just bare faced lying so cant imagine Russia in NATO.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,092
    shirley_basso said:

    Are you eejits f***king kidding me?


    I take you think there was never any prospect of Russia becoming part of the West ?
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,280
    DeVlaeminck said:

    Russia is interesting because whatever Florence's tweet implies, about 3/4 of Russians do live in Europe and I would guess their culture and history is more European than Asian. Just why is it that over 100 years since their revolution democracy has never really taken a firm foothold ?

    Not a fan of Putin at all - I can't fathom how someone can give orders to launch an offensive campaign that kills tens or hundreds of thousands - but he did make some moves towards the West early in his "reign" and apparently feels Russia was rebuffed - a failure of long term strategy/diplomacy on the West's part? Question rather than statement.

    I'll hazard a guess at the two questions.

    1. The leaders don't permit it.
    2. He saw the west as weak that would do nothing against the "might" of Russia.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,092
    Thanks for trying.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,280
    DeVlaeminck said:

    Thanks for trying.

    That was easy.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691



    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,114
    Well you know the Mary Rose just toppled over because it was so well armed. So let's not scoff.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,092
    Interesting that Germany is stalling on delivering heavy arms to Ukraine despite widespread support for doing so amongst voters of all parties except the AfD.

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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    ddraver said:




    TBF they've said it sunk in heavy seas after an explosion onboard. They just ignored the explosion being caused by a Ukrainian missile
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,280
    Pross said:

    ddraver said:




    TBF they've said it sunk in heavy seas after an explosion onboard. They just ignored the explosion being caused by a Ukrainian missile
    But have now said they will attack Kiev in retaliation.
    Logic?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    They'll probably claim Ukraine caused the storm.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    Dealing with Russia is like trying to reason with an alcoholic. There is literally no point of even listening anymore.

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