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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    their landmax snd airmax is wuite big as well.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    MattFalle said:

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    what's supporting it?
    Think of it like Brexit😀 there will be some immediate shortages, inconveniences and price rises and then until it is over, each year, things will be a little bit sh1tter than they otherwise would have been
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    what's supporting it?
    Think of it like Brexit😀 there will be some immediate shortages, inconveniences and price rises and then until it is over, each year, things will be a little bit sh1tter than they otherwise would have been
    👍👍
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    MattFalle said:

    their landmax snd airmax is wuite big as well.

    Sadly their airmax is the best of the best. And I'm not talking about repressed Top Gun lads with shaved chests high fiving in the showers. The USAF really know their sh1t. We used to be as good as them but we sold all our stuff.

  • thegreatdivide
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  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    We sold the Harriers for scrap.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722
    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.
    I think that’s the only message they will understand at this point.
    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,691
    The similarities between this and the Chernobyl Disaster are mind melting

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMLxu3Mjg/

    Parts of (?) Russia just haven't moved on from Soviet times...
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.

    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    Why?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.

    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    Why?
    I dunno.
    I guess I think of them as being modelled on a western, capitalist society and as such would fall into step.
    However, I suppose any western, capitalist economy would also be tempted by a dirt cheap deal.


    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Could do with some sanctions on India, could maybe cut down the volume of spam calls claiming to be HMRC, Carphonewarehouse, etc etc. But hey, 'dishy' chancellor...
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.

    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    Why?
    I dunno.
    I guess I think of them as being modelled on a western, capitalist society and as such would fall into step.
    However, I suppose any western, capitalist economy would also be tempted by a dirt cheap deal.


    but they're not really though.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    orraloon said:

    Could do with some sanctions on India, could maybe cut down the volume of spam calls claiming to be HMRC, Carphonewarehouse, etc etc. But hey, 'dishy' chancellor...

    yup. wifey and father in law wouldn't like it and we can't be having that now can we...
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,722
    edited April 2022
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.

    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    Why?
    I dunno.
    I guess I think of them as being modelled on a western, capitalist society and as such would fall into step.
    However, I suppose any western, capitalist economy would also be tempted by a dirt cheap deal.


    but they're not really though.
    No.
    That’s kind of what I mean.
    It’s my perception rather than anything tangible.
    I think it has something to do with cricket.

    I see that Lithuania has cut off all gas supplies from Russia.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,262
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.

    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    Why?
    I dunno.
    I guess I think of them as being modelled on a western, capitalist society and as such would fall into step.
    However, I suppose any western, capitalist economy would also be tempted by a dirt cheap deal.


    but they're not really though.

    Is this one of the counties that post-Brexit Britain wants to do massive trade deals with? Or is there another India?
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Post Brexit Britin wants to do massive trade deals with everyone but its seems that unfortunately not everyone wants to do massive trade deals with post Brexit Britain.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.
    LOL - there are a lot more countries not doing sanctions than are. I think it is Western Europe, USA and Canada
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Modi is the same flavour of politician.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,334

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.
    I think that’s the only message they will understand at this point.
    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    modi is at least as loathsome as putin, he's spent years stoking hatred and division, india used to be fairly tolerant, he's successfully reversed that, look at the beatings and killings of minorities, especially muslim, since he came to power

    india gets most of its arms from russia and assumes russia will support with it in the, generally low-intensity, but interminable, conflict with pakistan and china
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028

    We sold the Harriers for scrap.

    We also sold the crews out as well. On the Joint Harrier Force - all the RAF pilots got re-streamed onto Typhoon conversion courses and the like, while the FAA pilots all got made redundant.

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.
    LOL - there are a lot more countries not doing sanctions than are. I think it is Western Europe, USA and Canada
    It's not necessarily about the number of countries though. Those three above account for a significant portion of Russia's import/export trade. China notwithstanding....

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    If the worst reports are true they’re crimes against humanity. Systematic killing.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,494

    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    Maybe time to expand sanctions to countries that aren't following sanctions.
    I think that’s the only message they will understand at this point.
    I find it hard to believe that India are so out of step on this.
    Really? Putin is just Modi's kinda guy. And India has been close to Russia since Soviet times.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The reports of Russian army behaviour sound remarkably similar to the behaviour documented at the back end of the second world war.

    Leaders not really caring about soldier's behaviour when it came to looting, rape and being relaxed about murder.

    There seems to be this idea that this is just the cost of war, and there will be no payback as the authoritarian police will follow up behind and tell them all to stop whining about it.


    I also read something about the really brutal hazing they do to new (conscripted) recruits that apparently leads to much worse behaviour.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,262
    .

    The reports of Russian army behaviour sound remarkably similar to the behaviour documented at the back end of the second world war.

    Leaders not really caring about soldier's behaviour when it came to looting, rape and being relaxed about murder.

    There seems to be this idea that this is just the cost of war, and there will be no payback as the authoritarian police will follow up behind and tell them all to stop whining about it.


    I also read something about the really brutal hazing they do to new (conscripted) recruits that apparently leads to much worse behaviour.


    I was thinking about that, with reference to my remark about Vercors in July 1944. The Nazis were particularly vindictive there, including killing people in a field hospital, yet they were all gone within a month. Punishment for having been part of the résistance.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yes some horrific stories coming out. Branding (with swastikas), gang rape, systematic murder of fighting-age men...

    I guess what I'm driving at with my ill-developed thoughts is that there has never been a reckoning about the military's behaviour since the 1940s.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Yes some horrific stories coming out. Branding (with swastikas), gang rape, systematic murder of fighting-age men...

    I guess what I'm driving at with my ill-developed thoughts is that there has never been a reckoning about the military's behaviour since the 1940s.

    "a reckoning about the military's behaviour"

    care to expand?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    Yes some horrific stories coming out. Branding (with swastikas), gang rape, systematic murder of fighting-age men...

    I guess what I'm driving at with my ill-developed thoughts is that there has never been a reckoning about the military's behaviour since the 1940s.

    "a reckoning about the military's behaviour"

    care to expand?
    Well basically because the Nazis were quite so awful when they invaded there was a sort of *shrug* when the Russian soldiers enacted revenge - at least, that's how i read it.

    And since then they haven't really had any public outcry nor was anyone in the army, from top to bottom, held account for their actions - if anything, it was tacitly encouraged.

    Since they are the glorified army, there doesn't seem to have been a moment since then where someone in authority stands up and says "this is not the right behaviour", nor does there seem to have been much if any cultural reform in the army to stop this kind of behaviour.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,544
    Presumably you are specifically talking about the Russian army here Rick? Your previous post certainly didn't make that clear, and this post doesn't really clarify it much either.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Presumably you are specifically talking about the Russian army here Rick? Your previous post certainly didn't make that clear, and this post doesn't really clarify it much either.

    Yes. There's only one lot systematically killing civilians.