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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,262
    Pross said:

    MattFalle said:

    Theres gonna be some very busy scrap dealers at the end of all this.....

    Might explain why my local rag and bone man hasn't been around for a few weeks. It takes a lot of old washing machines to equal a single Russian tank.

    And, unless there's regime change there, I hope that the collective memory of their barbarity will last as long as that of Hitler's. Putin deserves a messy/brutal end: he's trashing his own country at the same time as terrorising their neighbours.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    what's supporting it?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,127
    MattFalle said:

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    what's supporting it?
    State manipulation of the markets. Suspect it is temporary.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,272

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    What happens when the purchasers of oil and gas refuse to pay in Roubles as requested by Putin?
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461
    I wonder what effect this will all have on places like Syria, Chechnya, South Ossetia etc.?
  • HilaryAmin
    HilaryAmin Posts: 160
    edited April 2022

    Has this been explained earlier? If so my apologies for not having found it.

    I am trying to understand the significance and modus operandi of Putin's immensely long negotiating table, the one where he sits at one end and about 50 metres away at the other, his miserable lickspittles huddle fearfully. Is it simply a phallic symbol demonstrating his vast power and invincibility? Or is it that he is beyond an accurate pistol shot or radius of a bomb blast?

    How would it have worked when Macron was occupying the other end? Who would have been at the wrong end of the penis? And how do they communicate at such a distance? Is it via Zoom?

    Does Putin not realise how ridiculous it makes him look? Like David Brent in the office although infinitely more grotesquely evil.


    This must be the answer:

    "Putin 'using body double' to avoid assassination"

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-using-body-double-to-avoid-assassination/ar-AAVNxOa

    Obviously the long table would make it harder for the deception to be spotted.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Has this been explained earlier? If so my apologies for not having found it.

    I am trying to understand the significance and modus operandi of Putin's immensely long negotiating table, the one where he sits at one end and about 50 metres away at the other, his miserable lickspittles huddle fearfully. Is it simply a phallic symbol demonstrating his vast power and invincibility? Or is it that he is beyond an accurate pistol shot or radius of a bomb blast?

    How would it have worked when Macron was occupying the other end? Who would have been at the wrong end of the penis? And how do they communicate at such a distance? Is it via Zoom?

    Does Putin not realise how ridiculous it makes him look? Like David Brent in the office although infinitely more grotesquely evil.


    This must be the answer:

    "Putin 'using body double' to avoid assassination"

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/putin-using-body-double-to-avoid-assassination/ar-AAVNxOa

    Obviously the long table would make it harder for the deception to be spotted.
    nah.

    he's just adick.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    as an aside, that article says the Kremlin has confirmed 15,000 deaths, so intriguing to see how the Russin populace take that one.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    MattFalle said:

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    what's supporting it?
    State manipulation of the markets. Suspect it is temporary.
    Nah according to the economist domestic demand is still pretty high

    High rates have stabled the ruble and a decent proportion of central bank reserves remain sanction free.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    that should start to drop shortly though as supply can't match demand, yah?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    that should start to drop shortly though as supply can't match demand, yah?

    Mmm so that’s the surprise, it seems the sanctions are performing rather like the Russian army.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    sanctions affecting external markets and assets rather than internal markets that are being propped up by internal rouble market though, no?

    once product supply ceases nothing to spend internal domestic roubles on?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I think there was a miscalculation on a) how insulated the economy was and b) how “Soviet stoicism” has endured - ie spending has stayed largely the same.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    I think there was a miscalculation on a) how insulated the economy was and b) how “Soviet stoicism” has endured - ie spending has stayed largely the same.

    gotta run out at some point though - if there is nothing to spend your money on ...
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,873
    Worth noting the official Ruble exchange rate is quite different to the black market one.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    what's the two rates out of interest?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028


    Obviously the long table would make it harder for the deception to be spotted.

    Apart from all the close-ups of him on TV, sitting at his long table, yeah...

  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    MattFalle said:

    tbf, with the russian economy being smashed and a shed load of their military kit being used up/exploded, this is gonna take them years to get over.

    Can’t find the article that I’m quoting from, but it was estimated that it will take Russia at least a decade to get back to their pre invasion strength (or the same level of sh1tness).

    Their Navy will be relatively stable. Although upkeep across all the forces will be fecked with sanctions now. That’s a worry when it comes to nuclear powered vessels and their nuke weapons.

  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    With the scum ejected from North of Kyiv, I reckon they’ll move some of the huge Civil Defence Force in to the area to help out with security and civilian logistical help, freeing up the UF so they can take the fight to the North East and bolster the guys down in the Donbass. Those Bucha atrocities will have fuelled their fire.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,494
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, with the russian economy being smashed and a shed load of their military kit being used up/exploded, this is gonna take them years to get over.

    Can’t find the article that I’m quoting from, but it was estimated that it will take Russia at least a decade to get back to their pre invasion strength (or the same level of sh1tness).

    Their Navy will be relatively stable. Although upkeep across all the forces will be fecked with sanctions now. That’s a worry when it comes to nuclear powered vessels and their nuke weapons.

    tbh, their Navy always has been abitshit.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,494
    MattFalle said:

    rjsterry said:
    india is buying a shed load at mste's rates - they can't see a problem with whats going on.
    No, I'm sure Modi is looking on admiringly.
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  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,334
    MattFalle said:

    Interestingly Russian economy after the initial shock is fairing remarkably well.

    what's supporting it?
    the head of their central bank is very good at her job (though reportedly she wanted to quit, but putin made her an offer she couldn't refuse)

    about half their (huge) foreign reserves are frozen, still leaves them with more than the uk has

    interest rate now at 20% (but inflation heading higher)

    currency controls limit capital flight, exporters are forced to buy rubles with 80% of incoming revenue

    aside from continuing energy revenue from the west, plenty of other countries are happy to carry on trading with them

    they don't need to import energy, probably ok for food (all the wheat, sunflower oil etc. we're not getting), in pure economic terms i'd think they can carry on indefinitely

    the average russian will suffer economic impact, but most seem so indoctrinated by propaganda they'll blame it on the west and put up with it, as far as they're concerned they are the good guys, no matter how many towns they level and innocents they slaughter
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, with the russian economy being smashed and a shed load of their military kit being used up/exploded, this is gonna take them years to get over.

    Can’t find the article that I’m quoting from, but it was estimated that it will take Russia at least a decade to get back to their pre invasion strength (or the same level of sh1tness).

    Their Navy will be relatively stable. Although upkeep across all the forces will be fecked with sanctions now. That’s a worry when it comes to nuclear powered vessels and their nuke weapons.

    tbh, their Navy always has been abitshit.
    Can’t landmax AND seamax. Gotta pick
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited April 2022

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, with the russian economy being smashed and a shed load of their military kit being used up/exploded, this is gonna take them years to get over.

    Can’t find the article that I’m quoting from, but it was estimated that it will take Russia at least a decade to get back to their pre invasion strength (or the same level of sh1tness).

    Their Navy will be relatively stable. Although upkeep across all the forces will be fecked with sanctions now. That’s a worry when it comes to nuclear powered vessels and their nuke weapons.

    tbh, their Navy always has been abitshit.
    Can’t landmax AND seamax. Gotta pick
    tell that to the americans.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, with the russian economy being smashed and a shed load of their military kit being used up/exploded, this is gonna take them years to get over.

    Can’t find the article that I’m quoting from, but it was estimated that it will take Russia at least a decade to get back to their pre invasion strength (or the same level of sh1tness).

    Their Navy will be relatively stable. Although upkeep across all the forces will be fecked with sanctions now. That’s a worry when it comes to nuclear powered vessels and their nuke weapons.

    tbh, their Navy always has been abitshit.
    Can’t landmax AND seamax. Gotta pick
    anyhow, seems like they decided to beshit at both.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:

    tbf, with the russian economy being smashed and a shed load of their military kit being used up/exploded, this is gonna take them years to get over.

    Can’t find the article that I’m quoting from, but it was estimated that it will take Russia at least a decade to get back to their pre invasion strength (or the same level of sh1tness).

    Their Navy will be relatively stable. Although upkeep across all the forces will be fecked with sanctions now. That’s a worry when it comes to nuclear powered vessels and their nuke weapons.

    tbh, their Navy always has been abitshit.
    Can’t landmax AND seamax. Gotta pick
    tell that to tbe americans.
    Seamax ;) their max is very very big