Photography Thread
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I'm always experimenting with different lenses, some older ones certainly can add an 'artiness' to out of focus highlights. +extreme lens flaring.briantrumpet said:masjer said:^^ A nice collection there ^^.
With a touch of dramatic weather, some nice light, interesting backdrops, French charm, and a twist of creativity, all traces of “tat” just disappear.
I know this won’t be to everyone’s/anyone’s taste, but I’m quite chuffed with it, especially the background rendering. Vintage lens wide open and no processing to speak of.
In yours, interesting how the lens has 'processed' the out-of-focus stuff behind. It would have been interesting to compare with a modern lens... maybe it would have been just the same... dunno.
Not mine, but things can get very strange with the Russian helios lens
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Monsieur Janvier.briantrumpet said:rjsterry said:
A nice coffee table book with the best 20 shots? A calendar?😉briantrumpet said:pinno said:
Why not? ...and then retire in France.briantrumpet said:
Currently running at 107k post views in the past four weeks, and 50k interactions, so doing OK. Can't be bothered to try to monetise it though, as it's 'just for fun', and, I suppose, bringing smiles to people's faces. For all its faults, Facebook is still a pretty awesome way to share stuff and build a network.
1) I CBA to formulate/set up a subscription system
2) It would somewhat change my relationship with what I deliver and the people who 'consume' the product
3) I genuinely just like sharing the photos as widely as possible
4) I have a vague sort of plan anyway to spend progressively more time in France
5) F**king Brexit
There are a few ideas about how a book could work, and it's the sort of thing that probably would do quite well here, with the right text. But very few people get rich from books, especially niche ones, so it would probably feed the ego more than the bank balance. Plus, of course, I'm not allowed to work in France without a permit...
I suppose it would be easiest just to set up a funding page and to ask for donations to 'help with my expenses' (mostly bakeries and cafés), but I still CBA. I'd probably make more money with the mafffia (middle-aged French female fans) if I had a saucy channel removing cycling gear on request... mind you, I could combine that with the calendar idea... 🤔
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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You've taken photos with vertical elements/angles like this before, even at Topsham, maybe something you are drawn to?briantrumpet said:
I like them otherwise I wouldn't notice them.
What goes on, or more likely used to go on, in the Tardif building?
It appears to also have the words 'tonture' and 'degraissage' on the wall, and it seems both words have a number of meanings – tonture can mean the trimming of a hedge, and degraissage any sort of de-fatting, including (colloquially) making excess staff redundant and removing fat from animal carcasses.
I'm guessing sheep were once sheared in the building and their wool then washed?
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Re using-your photos, I suspect a book would be too ambitious and economically fail, but a calendar ….briantrumpet said:rjsterry said:
A nice coffee table book with the best 20 shots? A calendar?😉briantrumpet said:pinno said:
Why not? ...and then retire in France.briantrumpet said:
Currently running at 107k post views in the past four weeks, and 50k interactions, so doing OK. Can't be bothered to try to monetise it though, as it's 'just for fun', and, I suppose, bringing smiles to people's faces. For all its faults, Facebook is still a pretty awesome way to share stuff and build a network.
1) I CBA to formulate/set up a subscription system
2) It would somewhat change my relationship with what I deliver and the people who 'consume' the product
3) I genuinely just like sharing the photos as widely as possible
4) I have a vague sort of plan anyway to spend progressively more time in France
5) F**king Brexit
There are a few ideas about how a book could work, and it's the sort of thing that probably would do quite well here, with the right text. But very few people get rich from books, especially niche ones, so it would probably feed the ego more than the bank balance. Plus, of course, I'm not allowed to work in France without a permit...
I suppose it would be easiest just to set up a funding page and to ask for donations to 'help with my expenses' (mostly bakeries and cafés), but I still CBA. I'd probably make more money with the mafffia (middle-aged French female fans) if I had a saucy channel removing cycling gear on request... mind you, I could combine that with the calendar idea... 🤔
A casual photographer like yourself whom I know did very well (in a moderate sense) this last Xmas/New-Year selling a calendar of her landscape photos, one photo per month. I think she sold about 1,000, so not a money-making business but good for her ego. Demand apparently outstriped what she had ordered with the printer.
However, I think she would have sold more/had more demand, if she had not had the photo only take up only the upper half of an A4 sheet – the bottom half had all the dates/days with enough space to write 'Johnny's dentist app' or whatever.
But nowadays most people use a desk calendar or their mobile for such appointments, a wall calendar is mainly there for its monthly decorative picture. So she could have had her photo occupy 80% of each monthly sheet. I think a larger picture would have increased the demand even more.0 -
jimmyjams said:
Re using-your photos, I suspect a book would be too ambitious and economically fail, but a calendar ….briantrumpet said:rjsterry said:
A nice coffee table book with the best 20 shots? A calendar?😉briantrumpet said:pinno said:
Why not? ...and then retire in France.briantrumpet said:
Currently running at 107k post views in the past four weeks, and 50k interactions, so doing OK. Can't be bothered to try to monetise it though, as it's 'just for fun', and, I suppose, bringing smiles to people's faces. For all its faults, Facebook is still a pretty awesome way to share stuff and build a network.
1) I CBA to formulate/set up a subscription system
2) It would somewhat change my relationship with what I deliver and the people who 'consume' the product
3) I genuinely just like sharing the photos as widely as possible
4) I have a vague sort of plan anyway to spend progressively more time in France
5) F**king Brexit
There are a few ideas about how a book could work, and it's the sort of thing that probably would do quite well here, with the right text. But very few people get rich from books, especially niche ones, so it would probably feed the ego more than the bank balance. Plus, of course, I'm not allowed to work in France without a permit...
I suppose it would be easiest just to set up a funding page and to ask for donations to 'help with my expenses' (mostly bakeries and cafés), but I still CBA. I'd probably make more money with the mafffia (middle-aged French female fans) if I had a saucy channel removing cycling gear on request... mind you, I could combine that with the calendar idea... 🤔
A casual photographer like yourself whom I know did very well (in a moderate sense) this last Xmas/New-Year selling a calendar of her landscape photos, one photo per month. I think she sold about 1,000, so not a money-making business but good for her ego. Demand apparently outstriped what she had ordered with the printer.
However, I think she would have sold more/had more demand, if she had not had the photo only take up only the upper half of an A4 sheet – the bottom half had all the dates/days with enough space to write 'Johnny's dentist app' or whatever.
But nowadays most people use a desk calendar or their mobile for such appointments, a wall calendar is mainly there for its monthly decorative picture. So she could have had her photo occupy 80% of each monthly sheet. I think a larger picture would have increased the demand even more.
Yeah, agree with all of that, and reinforces my CBA-to-do-anything-more feeling. TBH, even the casual FB Page I do takes enough time, as I make a point of looking at all the comments and replying as necessary. And as there's no outlay/risk involved, that'll do.
Re the building, dunno, your guesses sound vaguely plausible, historically, as sheep have been a big thing, transhumance and all (the big event when all the flocks get taken up to the Vercors plateau). Although it might just have been selling advertising space on the walls for all I know. It's just a private house now I think. Never much going on there.0 -
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The problem with photography is that these days, with modern cameras, it's much easier to take decent photos... a friend of mine who does a lot of bird photography, recently bought himself a new OM1, which has a feature that specifically focuses on the eyes of birds, and though he took really good photos before, he says the new feature makes it an absolute doddle to get fantastic bird photos, so the difference between him, with his skill, and people who have spent the $s on the OM1 is much less now.
If you go back to the days of the old OM1, then you had to have all sorts of specialist skills to get really good shots, and even more to get the shots disseminated. These days anyone who spends a bit of money on a decent digital camera (sheesh, mine was only £220) can take thousands of photos which, thanks to good auto settings, will probably be technically competent, and some of which will be vaguely reasonable. And with the internet and all the opportunities to share, making money out of photography has a much much higher bar, and that goes way beyond taking technically competent photos.0 -
The flip side is that with higher volume comes lower value.briantrumpet said:...making money out of photography has a much much higher bar, and that goes way beyond taking technically competent photos.
Professional photographers now need to sell themselves on podcasts etc to make money.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
All the above said, there are still plenty of terrible photos that people feel the need to share, with neither technical competence nor compositional ability. It also depresses me the number of likes that nuclear-grade hyper-saturated photos get on FB photo groups, when instead they should be being called out for it.0
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Arguably, but possibly more for landscape photography, the ease of capturing a decent image makes the genuinely good photographers stand out more as they will be the ones thinking about the things like composition and capturing a common scene in a different context.briantrumpet said:The problem with photography is that these days, with modern cameras, it's much easier to take decent photos... a friend of mine who does a lot of bird photography, recently bought himself a new OM1, which has a feature that specifically focuses on the eyes of birds, and though he took really good photos before, he says the new feature makes it an absolute doddle to get fantastic bird photos, so the difference between him, with his skill, and people who have spent the $s on the OM1 is much less now.
If you go back to the days of the old OM1, then you had to have all sorts of specialist skills to get really good shots, and even more to get the shots disseminated. These days anyone who spends a bit of money on a decent digital camera (sheesh, mine was only £220) can take thousands of photos which, thanks to good auto settings, will probably be technically competent, and some of which will be vaguely reasonable. And with the internet and all the opportunities to share, making money out of photography has a much much higher bar, and that goes way beyond taking technically competent photos.
The best equipment can’t help with the artistic side of things that turn a nice snap into a great photo. For photos of bike races nothing I see comes close to capturing things in the way Jered Gruber does because he treats the race as a background to the photos more than being the subject, it is often the crowd or the locals in some small village the race is passing that are the subject.
Agree regarding Facebook photography pages, I think I commented a while back about the sunset images on one page I follow yet the photographer will usually put a comment like ‘straight from the camera’ which it plainly isn’t unless the camera settings are farked.0 -
Very easy to do. Saturation maxed out and white balance set to cloudy or shade.Pross said:
Agree regarding Facebook photography pages, I think I commented a while back about the sunset images on one page I follow yet the photographer will usually put a comment like ‘straight from the camera’ which it plainly isn’t unless the camera settings are farked.
Straight from the camera but obvious. My default position being FB is fake.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
Very easy to do. Saturation maxed out and white balance set to cloudy or shade.Pross said:
Agree regarding Facebook photography pages, I think I commented a while back about the sunset images on one page I follow yet the photographer will usually put a comment like ‘straight from the camera’ which it plainly isn’t unless the camera settings are farked.
Straight from the camera but obvious. My default position being FB is fake.
Yeah, I remember watching a friend take a photo of a so-so sunset on his Google Pixel camera, and what he showed me on the screen bore little relationship to the actual sunset. I suspect it was an auto sunset setting.0 -
Pross said:
Arguably, but possibly more for landscape photography, the ease of capturing a decent image makes the genuinely good photographers stand out more as they will be the ones thinking about the things like composition and capturing a common scene in a different context.briantrumpet said:The problem with photography is that these days, with modern cameras, it's much easier to take decent photos... a friend of mine who does a lot of bird photography, recently bought himself a new OM1, which has a feature that specifically focuses on the eyes of birds, and though he took really good photos before, he says the new feature makes it an absolute doddle to get fantastic bird photos, so the difference between him, with his skill, and people who have spent the $s on the OM1 is much less now.
If you go back to the days of the old OM1, then you had to have all sorts of specialist skills to get really good shots, and even more to get the shots disseminated. These days anyone who spends a bit of money on a decent digital camera (sheesh, mine was only £220) can take thousands of photos which, thanks to good auto settings, will probably be technically competent, and some of which will be vaguely reasonable. And with the internet and all the opportunities to share, making money out of photography has a much much higher bar, and that goes way beyond taking technically competent photos.
The best equipment can’t help with the artistic side of things that turn a nice snap into a great photo. For photos of bike races nothing I see comes close to capturing things in the way Jered Gruber does because he treats the race as a background to the photos more than being the subject, it is often the crowd or the locals in some small village the race is passing that are the subject.
Agreed. And that's why I'd class most of my stuff as tourist tat, with the odd few a bit better than that.0 -
There may be a reason we are posting on a cycling forum and not a photography one?
Just a thought. 🤣The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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Riot of colour.
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^^It's amazing how trees take root on what appears to be bare rock on the side of an exposed mountain.0
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masjer said:
^^It's amazing how trees take root on what appears to be bare rock on the side of an exposed mountain.
There are some corkers on limestone ledges and whatnot... they hardly seem to need any soil. If I think of it, I'll see if I can pick any particularly good ones out to photograph.1 -
I like the look of those in that area, please.
No Brian no!0 -
Probably not quite as steep as it looks from the front... there is a 'path' that goes up between those two big cliff faces...
Yer tis... le Grand Cheneau du Glandasse... https://www.pascal-sombardier.com/2020/09/la-grande-cheneau-au-glandasse.html0 -
AMAZING! That path sure is on the 'airy' side.0
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Not my cup of tea at all.masjer said:AMAZING! That path sure is on the 'airy' side.
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A trivial annoyance of mine is that it is not trivial to create calendars, mugs etc. and outsource the complete production and sales process to a third party who pays a commission based on sales volumes. I wanted to do this for a school, but the same would apply to Brian's calender or even a BR calendar.1
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Haha, I knew I had something up-close-&-personal myself... these trees just seem to get a foothold in a rock, and off they go...masjer said:AMAZING! That path sure is on the 'airy' side.
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TheBigBean said:
A trivial annoyance of mine is that it is not trivial to create calendars, mugs etc. and outsource the complete production and sales process to a third party who pays a commission based on sales volumes. I wanted to do this for a school, but the same would apply to Brian's calender or even a BR calendar.
When "I've got a great idea!" turns into "Why did I think this would be a good idea?", once you factor in the hassle factor.
I've only once hoped to get a 'mates rate' on some good local booze (Crémant de Die) from someone I know vaguely well, and did a publication featuring him and his wine, and got not a one centime discount. Guess I'm not going to make it as an 'influencer' either.
I'll stick to tooting my horn.0 -
We recently had a shed removed and knew that a tree had self-seeded behind it about 7 or 8 years ago. We thought it was growing in the soil of a narrow, shallow trough behind. When the shed came down it turned out it was growing it a small gap between the patio and the wall of the trough, the roots were following the joints of a couple of patio slabs forming a near-perfect right angle at surface level.masjer said:^^It's amazing how trees take root on what appears to be bare rock on the side of an exposed mountain.
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Haha, this one definitely deserves bonus points for the solo effort
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^ Definitely a 'lonely tree'. I bet these trees are much older than they look.
The birstlecone pines in the States can grow for thousands of years in very poor soil.
Just Googled. The oldest being 4765 years old but possibly up to 9000.0 -
masjer said:
^ Definitely a 'lonely tree'. I bet these trees are much older than they look.
The birstlecone pines in the States can grow for thousands of years in very poor soil.
Just Googled. The oldest being 4765 years old but possibly up to 9000.
Talking of lonely trees in unlikely places, here's one, growing out of the tower at Culmstock church. I'd gone past it so many times and wondered why they didn't get rid of it, till I discovered that it's been there for at least 250 years. It's "The Culmstock Yew".
https://www.ancient-yew.org/userfiles/file/Culmstock_article.pdf
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