TdF 2016 Stage 12 *Contains spoilers*

prhymeate

some footage for those who weren't able to watch... https://streamable.com/g3su

graeme_s-2

Eurosport coverage just finished with a little "Sky hearts cycling" VT, showing the Sky team leaping up and down and celebrating on the team bus - I'm fairly confident that's not what they've been doing today

adr82

Prhymeate wrote:

some footage for those who weren't able to watch... https://streamable.com/g3su

Sounded like a fair bit of booing from some fans, while others were chanting "Quintana!" at him. Lovely stuff :roll:

pottssteve

From the official TdF website:

1. GBRYATES Adam 209 ORICA-BIKEEXCHANGE 57h 12' 20''
2. NEDMOLLEMA Bauke 61 TREK - SEGAFREDO 57h 12' 29'' + 00' 09''
3. COLQUINTANA Nairo 11 MOVISTAR TEAM 57h 12' 34'' + 00' 14''
4. FRABARDET Romain 41 AG2R LA MONDIALE 57h 12' 48'' + 00' 28''
5. ESPVALVERDE Alejandro 12 MOVISTAR TEAM 57h 13' 12'' + 00' 52''
6. GBRFROOME Christopher 1 TEAM SKY 57h 13' 13'' + 00' 53''
7. USAVAN GARDEREN Tejay 99 BMC RACING TEAM 57h 13' 17'' + 00' 57''
8. ITAARU Fabio 21 ASTANA PRO TEAM 57h 13' 27'' + 01' 07''
9. IRLMARTIN Daniel 184 ETIXX-QUICK STEP 57h 13' 29'' + 01' 09''

Shadowrider

adr82 wrote:

Prhymeate wrote:

some footage for those who weren't able to watch... https://streamable.com/g3su

Sounded like a fair bit of booing from some fans, while others were chanting "Quintana!" at him. Lovely stuff :roll:

Yeah, cycling fans only hate him because he is successful.

emadden

An old one for those who want to go out and shoot all the fans.... but at least this one had a happy ending :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dBvJkqv0DM

emadden

pottssteve wrote:

More importantly, another late night for me. :roll:

I had hoped for an early finish but I'm off to bed now and won't sleep until I know the jury decision....

I think the fairest outcome is to give Froome, Porte and Mollema 23 seconds over the chasers, as that's what they had when it all went t!ts up.

I agree that would be a fair solution... but I suspect Movistar would appeal saying that it was a racing incident.

blazing_saddles

So, after sucking on Froome's wheel for 12 stages, the saviour of "exciting" cycling makes a couple of half arsed attacks and promptly leaves via the rear door.
And yet some folks think today's farce was a good result?
Give me strength.

bobmcstuff

emadden wrote:

pottssteve wrote:

More importantly, another late night for me. :roll:

I had hoped for an early finish but I'm off to bed now and won't sleep until I know the jury decision....

I think the fairest outcome is to give Froome, Porte and Mollema 23 seconds over the chasers, as that's what they had when it all went t!ts up.

I agree that would be a fair solution... but I suspect Movistar would appeal saying that it was a racing incident.

And the commissaires would tell them to eff off as there is no right of appeal.

keydon

I'm no fan of Froome and never will be,

but that was truly awful. I wooden want anybody

to go through something like that. Will they now

be arresting anybody who interferes with the race?

And Richie took a big whack, along with the other fellow.

We may well have a new race director next year, possibly next week.

Tomorrow is odds on.

Agent57

emadden wrote:

An old one for those who want to go out and shoot all the fans.... but at least this one had a happy ending :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dBvJkqv0DM

I'd forgotten all about that! So yeah, it's happened before.

pottssteve

adr82 wrote:

Prhymeate wrote:

some footage for those who weren't able to watch... https://streamable.com/g3su

Sounded like a fair bit of booing from some fans, while others were chanting "Quintana!" at him. Lovely stuff :roll:

And on top of that the Mavic service car seemed to give Froome a child's bike. :roll:

Shadowrider

emadden wrote:

pottssteve wrote:

More importantly, another late night for me. :roll:

I had hoped for an early finish but I'm off to bed now and won't sleep until I know the jury decision....

I think the fairest outcome is to give Froome, Porte and Mollema 23 seconds over the chasers, as that's what they had when it all went t!ts up.

I agree that would be a fair solution... but I suspect Movistar would appeal saying that it was a racing incident.

Of course they would but remember just yesterday they were calling stages to dangerous because of wind. Never mind 100's of fans causing mayhem.

adr82

Apparently no white/yellow presentations yet, so they must still be discussing what to do.

blazing_saddles

I think the sensible and simplest solution would be to treat it like a flat stage an give the time of the group you were in.
i.e. The same as Mollema who was 3rd of the three at the time.

However, I reckon we'll get stuck with this result.

above_the_cows

adr82 wrote:

Prhymeate wrote:

some footage for those who weren't able to watch... https://streamable.com/g3su

Sounded like a fair bit of booing from some fans, while others were chanting "Quintana!" at him. Lovely stuff :roll:

That is shocking. Why do people boo? I'd like to see any of them cycle up a mountain anywhere near as fast as any of the pro riders.

The commentators were suitable unimpressed saying that there really needs to be a discussion about crowds on mountains.

Also was amazing to see the lack of control the police had when Froome was getting the neutral service bike. There's no football on any longer, there's no excuse.

adr82

Blazing Saddles wrote:

I think the sensible and simplest solution would be to treat it like a flat stage an give the time of the group you were in.
i.e. The same as Mollema who was 3rd of the three at the time.

This would be very sensible, so they will no doubt do something else.

PuttyKnees

Farcical. If that result stands then it just makes a mockery of bike racing.

TheBigBean

Looking at the replay, there weren't actually that many fans. They were mostly single file, but too close.

I think Mavic need to hang their heads. They were basically there, but couldn't produce a vaguely functional bike.

above_the_cows

adr82 wrote:

Blazing Saddles wrote:

I think the sensible and simplest solution would be to treat it like a flat stage an give the time of the group you were in.
i.e. The same as Mollema who was 3rd of the three at the time.

This would be very sensible, so they will no doubt do something else.

Far too sensible.

Did no one think about the problems of compressing the fans that were at the top into less space when they shortened the stage? If that was a football match you can imagine the sh*t you'd be in for trying to fit too many people into a space.

above_the_cows

TheBigBean wrote:

Looking at the replay, there weren't actually that many fans. They were mostly single file, but too close.

I think Mavic need to hang their heads. They were basically there, but couldn't produce a vaguely functional bike.

There were not enough police basically.

dabber

Blazing Saddles wrote:

So, after sucking on Froome's wheel for 12 stages, the saviour of "exciting" cycling makes a couple of half arsed attacks and promptly leaves via the rear door.
And yet some folks think today's farce was a good result?
Give me strength.

That about sums it up... good result, my a*se. Let's hope common sense sorts this out.

bobmcstuff

From CN Liveblog: "It seems the race judges are trying to understand if they can take the times at the moment that Froome, Porte and Mollema crashed. "

May be one scenario where the live trackers on the bikes come in useful?

keydon

emadden wrote:

UCI Rule: 1.2.109: you can cross the finish line on foot as long as you have your bike with you

EDIT: not sure if there is a rule that states that the course must only be covered by bike... still looking

How could there be if you can cross the line on foot?

hanshotfirst

Froome just tweeted:

"Still in the Yellow Jersey"

https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/ ... 0664786944

keef_zip

Froome on Twitter that he is still in Yellow

prhymeate

Froome still in yellow according to his twitter... https://twitter.com/chrisfroome

woops, beaten to it

yourpaceormine

Froome just tweeted still in yellow

grenw

Froome tweeting he's still in yellow

jscl

Confirmed in official communication just issued from commissaire panel. Froome is in yellow.