TdF 2016 Stage 12 *Contains spoilers*

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  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    Possible to award the time gaps at the point where the collision occurred?
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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,716
    emadden wrote:
    Poor Froome fanboys :lol::lol::lol:


    I think its more about Le Tour. But ok.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    emadden wrote:
    Surely the 3km rule will apply and save Froome from this crazy ~90second time loss, running in clipless shoes up the hill!

    3km doesnt apply in mountain stages AFAIK

    It doesn't, but presumably the commissaires have the power to enforce it. I don't envy them because this is a huge mess to sort out.
  • zammmmo
    zammmmo Posts: 315
    smithy21 wrote:
    Bizarre as it is I think that result will stand.
    I fear the same.
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Wooo Flecha getting angry saying if they change the results they should have changed them when he got taken out by the TV car.

    Well he is right isn't he. It's the same principle.
  • maddog 2
    maddog 2 Posts: 8,114
    Whatever we do, we shouldn't listen to Flecha...
    Facts are meaningless, you can use facts to prove anything that's remotely true! - Homer
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
    How has this affected the GC standings ?
    "The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,716
    zammmmo wrote:
    So bad for the stage winner too because no one will remember or care....
    I love TdG so I care
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,160
    Now I've got the sort of GC gaps that I wanted at this point but with zero validity if CF doesn't come back to win. Complete and utter shambles for the whole leaderboard.
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    I am not sure who has had the bigger disaster on this stage- Froome or emadden?
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    ben@31 wrote:
    How has this affected the GC standings ?
    Provisional GC: http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Tou ... tage_12_GC
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    emadden wrote:

    Poor Froome fanboys :lol::lol::lol:

    Anyone that reacts to what happened from a Froome bias is daft anyway. It is simply something that's happened to the leader of GC and possibly affecting the standings which makes it interesting.
  • norvernrob
    norvernrob Posts: 1,448
    smithy21 wrote:
    Bizarre as it is I think that result will stand.


    If it does the sport totally loses credibility. In fact I think Sky should pull the whole team out.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,538
    It will be hugely unpopular, but I can't see how they can change the result. That of course doesn't mean they won't.

    1. YATES Adam 209 ORICA-BIKEEXCHANGE 57h 12' 20''
    2. MOLLEMA Bauke 61 TREK - SEGAFREDO 57h 12' 29'' + 00' 09''
    3. QUINTANA Nairo 11 MOVISTAR TEAM 57h 12' 34'' + 00' 14''
    4. BARDET Romain 41 AG2R LA MONDIALE 57h 12' 48'' + 00' 28''
    5. VALVERDE Alejandro 12 MOVISTAR TEAM 57h 13' 12'' + 00' 52''
    6. FROOME Christopher 1 TEAM SKY 57h 13' 13'' + 00' 53''
    7. VAN GARDEREN Tejay 99 BMC RACING TEAM 57h 13' 17'' + 00' 57''
    8. ARU Fabio 21 ASTANA PRO TEAM 57h 13' 27'' + 01' 07''
    9. MARTIN Daniel 184 ETIXX-QUICK STEP 57h 13' 29'' + 01' 09''
    10. RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin 141 TEAM KATUSHA 57h 13' 44'' + 01' 24''
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,400
    /\ and anyway Froome being 53s back isn't much with the kind of form he seems to have.
  • Can't believe i've missed all of this! Highlights may be worth watching tonight then! :shock:
  • emadden
    emadden Posts: 2,431
    edited July 2016
    UCI Rule: 1.2.109: you can cross the finish line on foot as long as you have your bike with you

    EDIT: not sure if there is a rule that states that the course must only be covered by bike... still looking
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    IF the results stand, Froome could make a famous win of this.

    Whether the results should stand or not we can't tell, as no one has truly seen why the bike stopped.
  • professeur
    professeur Posts: 232
    What are the plausible options: give Froome and Porte the same time as Mollema, same time for everyone in the stage..?
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,400
    emadden wrote:
    UCI Rule: 1.2.109: you can cross the finish line on foot as long as you have your bike with you
    He crossed the line on a bike, so that doesn't apply...
  • As utterly sh1t as it is for Froomey as least Yatesy takes yellow if the result stands
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    He was on his bike at the finish line.
    You live and learn. At any rate, you live
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,400
    mfin wrote:
    IF the results stand, Froome could make a famous win of this.

    Whether the results should stand or not we can't tell, as no one has truly seen why the bike stopped.

    Why does it matter why the moto stopped?
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,716
    I think Boardman has nailed it by saying that its a bad thing to happen to the race along with the riders who went down.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    NorvernRob wrote:
    smithy21 wrote:
    Bizarre as it is I think that result will stand.


    If it does the sport totally loses credibility.

    It's already lost credibility. It's happened. The problem for the Commissaires is can they be consistent. Because they can't neutralise this stage just because the yellow jersey was involved. Would they neutralise if only Yates, Mollema and Dan Martin had been held up by a crash?
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    mfin wrote:
    On the video, Porte hits the bike, Mollema goes in the back of him. Froome is to the right of the shot, so maybe he hit the bike at the same time as Porte. Not sure. It doesn't look like he was behind Mollema.
    From the footage - Porte was leading, Froome was second and Mollema in third. I think Porte hit the bike, Froome hit Porte and went left (right looking down the mountain) and Mollema went over the top of them.
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    NorvernRob wrote:
    smithy21 wrote:
    Bizarre as it is I think that result will stand.


    If it does the sport totally loses credibility. In fact I think Sky should pull the whole team out.

    But this sort of thing has happened before and results were not changed.

    If they do change the results what do they do. Give Froome, Mollema, Porte the same times as the Quintana group or give them the gap they had on Quintana?

    Whatever they do its a shambles and I don't think they can change the result as if they do they are just making it up as they go along and only doing it because the yellow jersey is involved.

    Quintana had lost the Tour there and now he's on the podium.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,538
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    emadden wrote:
    UCI Rule: 1.2.109: you can cross the finish line on foot as long as you have your bike with you
    He crossed the line on a bike, so that doesn't apply...

    It does mean he was a bit foolish. I assumed it was a rule that you could run across and he was only a 100m away. Neither of those were true.