Swiss build - FINISHED PHOTO OF THE 'TWINS'

pinno

MF - Have you made sure that the outer cables are butted hard up against the lever aperture? Are all the outers sited correctly? Is the brake cable nipple sitting happily in it's hole within the lever?

It was 8 speed in the end... :roll: Thanks for the run around - mate.

pinno

team47b wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Problem solved - turns out it was an 8 speed free hub so I dropped the 11 tooth off the 9 speed cassette and all is now lovely. Thank you anyhow.

What is this new tangled 'free hub' and 'cassette' of which you speak?

Nice try Dorset boy.

team47b

Dorset folk are weird, I'm ampshire I'll ave you know

Got the jewelry out of the cupboard to drip on the frame, ooh which bit first?

pinno

team47b wrote:

Dorset folk are weird, I'm ampshire I'll ave you know

Soz mate, forgot you were a forest dwelling cannibal pygmy.

team47b wrote:

Got the jewelry out of the cupboard to drip on the frame, ooh which bit first?

This bit:

team47b

So you seriously think fitting hooters to Mrs T's bike is a good idea?

pinno

team47b wrote:

So you seriously think fitting hooters to Mrs T's bike is a good idea?

Yes.

Make sure your lady wife watches this very important and informative safety film before she ventures out on the bicycle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsEKPHFoIp0

Matthewfalle

team47b wrote:

Got the jewelry out of the cupboard to drip on the frame, ooh which bit first?

Is that a euphemism?

team47b

Pinno wrote:

team47b wrote:

So you seriously think fitting hooters to Mrs T's bike is a good idea?

Yes.

Make sure your lady wife watches this very important and informative safety film before she ventures out on the bicycle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsEKPHFoIp0

"It's like giving a balloon to a hedgehog"

team47b

Matthewfalle wrote:

team47b wrote:

Got the jewelry out of the cupboard to drip on the frame, ooh which bit first?

Is that a euphemism?

And after that bit of perversion I may work on the bike

Matthewfalle

I've just de-cluttered the garage if that helps. And no, Pinno, Dirk hasn't gone any where.

If anyone needs very basic brand new Ali frames to build up cheap winter trainers/communters (size 57/58) I have two - £50 plus p&p each. They are post office red so would suit you down to a "t".

pinno

Matthewfalle wrote:

I've just de-cluttered the garage if that helps. And no, Pinno, Dirk hasn't gone any where.

If anyone needs very basic brand new Ali frames to build up cheap winter trainers/communters (size 57/58) I have two - £50 plus p&p each. They are post office red so would suit you down to a "t".

Wrong part of the forum.

Pics please.

team47b

Someone say pics?

First part of the build started :shock:

team47b

Added two yes two more parts

pinno

Time for a well earned break before exhaustion sets in T47.

team47b

Might have to take tomorrow off

That work bench (in the background on the floor) refuses stubbornly to build itself

pinno

team47b wrote:

Might have to take tomorrow off

That work bench (in the background on the floor) refuses stubbornly to build itself

These cheap far eastern products :roll:

team47b

It's real wood, cedar, bloody hard, lovely to cut, no grain, it's like cutting some form of composite, I'm calling it a work bench, Mrs T calls it an art table with a drawing board on her end of the table, I think I'm envisaging a vice on my end of that 'art table'

pinno

team47b wrote:

It's real wood, cedar, bloody hard, lovely to cut, no grain, it's like cutting some form of composite, I'm calling it a work bench, Mrs T calls it an art table with a drawing board on her end of the table, I think I'm envisaging a vice on my end of that 'art table'

Yes, oak is the same - that's why it's cut when it's still 'green' for building but you knew that anyway.
I put a work bench together using dowling. It's in the background:



Toots 1 is sat on Rocky Rocket. Rocky Rockets' cutting deck is currently with a welder. You would like him, he gives you random abuse the moment you walk in his large 'shed'.
Anyway, back to the bench. It's easier to drill holes for a short length of 8mm dowling than to tap screw holes and still split wood in hardwood. Looks very neat too - just pop them in with a touch of PVA.

Wheelspinner

Matthewfalle wrote:

Don't worry - I'm now piffling about with the brakes - you pull the lever and there's absolutely nothing but sponginess, the lever comes back to the bare and there is no resistance.

Any ideas? Brand new cable inners and outers, Ultegra calipers, does the same with both brand new Shimano levers and 80s Weinemanns.

Sounds like you got brake outer mixed up with gear outer - they're different construction. Gear outer will feel like what you described if you use it on brake lines.

team47b

Pinno wrote:

team47b wrote:

It's real wood, cedar, bloody hard, lovely to cut, no grain, it's like cutting some form of composite, I'm calling it a work bench, Mrs T calls it an art table with a drawing board on her end of the table, I think I'm envisaging a vice on my end of that 'art table'

Yes, oak is the same - that's why it's cut when it's still 'green' for building but you knew that anyway.
I put a work bench together using dowling. It's in the background:



Toots 1 is sat on Rocky Rocket. Rocky Rockets' cutting deck is currently with a welder. You would like him, he gives you random abuse the moment you walk in his large 'shed'.
Anyway, back to the bench. It's easier to drill holes for a short length of 8mm dowling than to tap screw holes and still split wood in hardwood. Looks very neat too - just pop them in with a touch of PVA.

Great tip, I was wondering as this is well seasoned/very old about drilling and screw holes and even screw types, cheers.

pinno

Just make sure that you drill say a 4" hole and cut a 3 3/4 inch dowling. Cutting it in situ can leave cut marks as well as the fact that sanding the end of the dowling never looks good; it's too hard, so cut the dowling neatly. Once it is in, especially with PVA on it, it will never come out - no second chances.

team47b

Inches, how quaint

Matthewfalle

Wheelspinner wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

Don't worry - I'm now piffling about with the brakes - you pull the lever and there's absolutely nothing but sponginess, the lever comes back to the bare and there is no resistance.

Any ideas? Brand new cable inners and outers, Ultegra calipers, does the same with both brand new Shimano levers and 80s Weinemanns.

Sounds like you got brake outer mixed up with gear outer - they're different construction. Gear outer will feel like what you described if you use it on brake lines.

Good call and thank you very much but they are brand new brake cables inners and outers - brake cables wouldn't fit through gear cable outers and both are straight out of the packet.

May try different outers and see what happens - it's just weird that it's on both brakes.

It's random.

team47b

If the cables are fine and are connected ( ) then your modern braking lever apparatus is not pulling the correct amount although in the olden days you could look inside and there was nuffin to see and nuffin to go wrong try doin that these days and young people would not know they was born, true nuff.

Sorted?

Matthewfalle

team47b wrote:

If the cables are fine and are connected ( ) then your modern braking lever apparatus is not pulling the correct amount although in the olden days you could look inside and there was nuffin to see and nuffin to go wrong try doin that these days and young people would not know they was born, true nuff.

Sorted?

Not sorted - have tried brand new modern Shimano levers and 20 year old Weinmanns. Both on the same 10 year old Ultegra brakes that work fine. Going to chuck on some old Shimano 600s and see how that works - wanted to use Ultegra so I have sufficient braking power and don't get dead disease, leading to TDV taking a hammer to everything I own and throwing it all in next door's garden.

Thank you very much anyway.

team47b

You're welcome

back OT, had an hour at he end of the afternoon, so set up the brakes, weinmann levers and matching brakes, simple to set up, they just work

Then had a beer or two, got carried away, built a bike

pinno

Pedals and rear mech to go.

After that, does this mean the end of the Swiss Build thread is nigh?

team47b

Pedals you've seen already, stripped, greased and polished.

Mech's in the post :roll:

So thread is good for at least 10 more days

I only had to get more pages and replies than matthew

team47b

team47b wrote:

Pedals you've seen already, stripped, greased and polished.

Mech's in the post :roll:

So thread is good for at least 10 more days

I only had to get more pages and replies than matthew

Could run at least two more pages on the chain alone, triple chrome...will post pics, well, after I've taken some

team47b

Oh no, I've started to quote myself, e idade :shock: