Swiss build - FINISHED PHOTO OF THE 'TWINS'

team47b

Thank you for sinking to our level...have a biscuit

Next job, lug lining...any tips from those that have done this before?

pinno

Give the job to Mrs T47. She's the one with the steady hand, you're a shaky old wreck.

Is there any point lining them - what colour is going to stand out against the red?

Gold?



Perhaps silver?

team47b

The point is to match my Imholz so it has to be a white/cream ish.

I don't have shaky hands, well if lubricated sufficiently, on that note I think as its so hot and sunny today I think a vinho verde is in order

pinno

Is this lug lining an afterthought? I thought perhaps it would be done before any assembly?

How are the wheels, sorry back wheel?

team47b

I haven't actually assembled anything, just test fitted a few bits for size etc, I want to do the lugs and ideally fit the decals and then clear coat before assembly, the wheels are somewhere between Warsaw and Lisboa. I will be using the low front flange hub front wheel to set it all up/test etc then set about rebuilding it when I feel like doing it

At this rate Matthew's thread is going to look short by comparison

pinno

Well, let's be honest, Dirk is neither pretty or inspiring. It has no soul. It will fit neatly into my can baler and then he can be relinquished of the troublesome burden of a project gone wrong. Then he will be free and he'll have me to thank.

team47b

...play nice

Matthewfalle

Pinno wrote:

Well, let's be honest, Dirk is neither pretty or inspiring. It has no soul. It will fit neatly into my can baler and then he can be relinquished of the troublesome burden of a project gone wrong. Then he will be free and he'll have me to thank.

I think he's either a) insanely jealous orb) so desperate for the attentions of Dirk that he's playing hard to get.

Sorry Pinno - Dirk is out of your league. Too stylish. Too cool. And probably too big for your kiddie idle bidder legs.

Matthewfalle

As an aside, when it crashes me into a wall, is the can baler offer still open?

pinno

I don't put walls into the baler.

I do like the use of 'when'.

Matthewfalle

Oh too right: it's not a case of "if" but "when".

And then who will have the last laugh, eh? That'll learn you - now to do with me.

pinno

You see what happens when people are left on tenterhooks waiting and waiting and waiting :roll:

...and all because: there's no post over the weekend. If that lot of greasy spicks that T47 has shacked up with have a bank 'olliday on Monday like us, there will be no action until Tuesday. T47 is loving this.

Matthewfalle

He may have a glut of parcels though and explode in polishing joy. What then?

team47b

We had our bank holiday Monday last Thursday, we don't hang about

The uk post is the slowest in Europe, I am still waiting for two parcels from the uk that were posted on the 11th May!


Friction?

team47b

OK lug lining...

Never tried it before so I need to practice first.

A spare old lugged bike would be a good start, but I don't have one so I made a 'lug' and clamped it to an old bit of gas pipe (this was a bit of old Colnago, but I could have used any old scrap laying around).

Mock up bike frame made, I got out my 1970 ruling pen compass attachment that I used to use at Art School and had to make a handle for it from an old bit of carbon rod (another colnago!) enamel paint thinned and pen loaded lined the lug and here is the result...



Probably need a couple more attempts before being completely happy to tackle a real frame

term1te

In case you need some more inspiration for your Swiss build, I walked passed the Staeger Collection this morning in Basel. Its a sort of private museum of steel road bikes http://www.staeger-collection.com/. I didn't see an Imholz in the window, but at least the red and the blue bikes in the image are Swiss, a red Mondia and a blue Bonanza. There is another local collection, that does have an Imholz Professional from 1937 though, complete with wooden rims http://speedbicycles.ch/velo/146/imholz_professional_1937.html

team47b

Thanks for the link to the Staeger collection, the Tebag Spezial is a particularly useful reference, consider me inspired!

Have a look at the Goldia bikes on speed bicycles, Hans mueller used to work with Alois Imholz before starting Goldia.



Now all I have to perfect is pin striping :roll:

pinno

team47b wrote:

OK...A spare old lugged bike would be a good start, but I don't have one so I made a 'lug' and clamped it to an old bit of gas pipe (this was a bit of old Colnago, but I could have used any old scrap laying around).

You what?! [insert gnashing teeth icon]

Have you got your fishing rod out by any chance?

team47b

It's like duffers fortnight

pinno

I say Chalmonderley Warner Bottom, here's a short, interesting film that's not too long and taxing for you old boy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8heLuqvY5U&index=1&list=PLA83odRQ9Tg1ZExQBj9TKyW6nRwxPA2vp

pinno

Cracking commentary (33 seconds in):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jVEU1bD-ww

team47b

Compressed air travel (that's not me driving BTW)

http://streaming.britishpathe.com/hls-v ... 3.mp4.m3u8

pinno

Sorry T47, couldn't open the link. 'MP4' what the Dicken's is that, does it play on an HMV Gramaphone with mono stylus?

team47b

Link works fine on my iPad, never mind perhaps I could send you a celluloid version for your PC

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/my-ca ... mall-owner


Btw 'duffers fortnight' is an angling term not a description of us two

pinno

team47b wrote:

Link works fine on my iPad, never mind perhaps I could send you a celluloid version for your PC

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/my-ca ... mall-owner

Btw 'duffers fortnight' is an angling term not a description of us two

I actually thought that it was a reference to that plonker who used to commentate on Eurosport.
Link worked - excellent.

The only reason I posted the Chicken Pate links was that I was looking for a short documentary on Norton. There was a guy with a long bristled brush doing the pin stripes on the mudguards with ease - one stroke, flip it around, dip brush stroke, next.

team47b

Today's shiny bit is a lapize pump, nice 'patina' and built in dings

The only shiny pump that fits the pegs - 48cms

pinno

A pump...

Maybe if I come back tomorrow, something interesting will have happened...

team47b

Not likely

Oh come on this pump is soooo long, you have to stand on the other side of the road to use it, I could photograph the inner tubes if you like, they are vittoria ultra lites

Matthewfalle

It looks like something you beat anarchist rioters with. It's mahooosif.

pinno

team47b wrote:

Not likely

Oh come on this pump is soooo long, you have to stand on the other side of the road to use it, I could photograph the inner tubes if you like, they are vittoria ultra lites

I've got Vittoria Ultralites. The thing is, since I started riding Vittoria tyres, I haven't had a puncture.