Worlds 2018 - SPOILERS

shirley_basso

Is that the collective noun for 'riches'? If so, I like it

Vino'sGhost

Shirley Basso wrote:

Is that the collective noun for 'riches'? If so, I like it

craigus89

Surprised at Tao being in there.

r0bh

Shirley Basso wrote:

Is that a strong team for the men's RR?
Where's Dan Martin from? Where's Luke Rowe? Ben Swift & Adam Blythe any use?

Rowe is recovering from surgery. Swift and Blythe not done much this year have they.

Mad_Malx

Why did our GOAT not want to do this?

bigmat

Shirley Basso wrote:

inseine wrote:

Shirley Basso wrote:

Is that a strong team for the men's RR?
Where's Dan Martin from? Where's Luke Rowe? Ben Swift & Adam Blythe any use?

Dan is Irish (can't you tell by his accent? :shock: )

Was hoping maybe N Ireland, on the border. plus I mostly watch in silence at work

He's actually from Birmingham isn't he? Irish mother (Stephen Roche's sister). I think he chose to ride for Ireland due to some issues with British Cycling early in his career, although he might just feel more Irish than British.

inseine

USA;
Women;
Coryn Rivera, Megan Guarnier, Alexis Ryan, Katharine Hall, Tayler Wiles, Ruth Winder and Leah Thomas

Men:
Ben King, Sepp Kuss, Brent Bookwalter, Peter Stetina

specialgueststar

Alaphillipe has Pinot Bardet Rolland Mollard and Geniez as climbing domestques. Or Pinot has Alaphillipe as a general super domestique!

inseine

Australia look strong (if Porte is going OK)
Mens Road Race
Simon Clarke, Rohan Dennis, Jack Haig, Chris Hamilton, Damien Howson, Richie Porte, Robert Power, Rory Sutherland

TT
Rohan Dennis ( no need to send 2 guys!)

Women’s Road Race
Grace Brown, Brodie Chapman, Tiffany Cromwell, Shara Gillow, Lucy Kennedy, Sarah Roy, Amanda Spratt

specialgueststar

inseine wrote:

Australia look strong (if Porte is going OK)
Mens Road Race
Simon Clarke, Rohan Dennis, Jack Haig, Chris Hamilton, Damien Howson, Richie Porte, Robert Power, Rory Sutherlandatt

Is that strong for that course.? Plenty of early race protection but can't see Porte having much in the last ten per cent

Mad_Malx

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

inseine wrote:

Australia look strong (if Porte is going OK)
Mens Road Race
Simon Clarke, Rohan Dennis, Jack Haig, Chris Hamilton, Damien Howson, Richie Porte, Robert Power, Rory Sutherlandatt

Is that strong for that course.? Plenty of early race protection but can't see Porte having much in the last ten per cent

If it's on ES then Si Clarke's going to be the leader.

yorkshireraw

Matthews pretty peeved on the C Podcast not to have been picked.
There was 4000m of Climbing in the Montreal race.


Has Porte ever won a 1 dayer of note, or even been up there?

craigus89

YorkshireRaw wrote:

Matthews pretty peeved on the C Podcast not to have been picked.
There was 4000m of Climbing in the Montreal race.


Has Porte ever won a 1 dayer of note, or even been up there?

I'm not sure Porte has ever won anything of note...

blazing_saddles

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

Alaphillipe has Pinot Bardet Rolland Mollard and Geniez as climbing domestques. Or Pinot has Alaphillipe as a general super domestique!

Funny looking team. No Vuillermoz, but Rolland and Geniez?
To me it seems more like everybody has no domestiques.

blazing_saddles

Road race only.

Colombia.
Nairo Quintana (Movistar)
Rigoberto Uran (EF/Drapac)
Miguel Ángel López (Astana)
Sergio e Sebastian Henao (Team Sky)
Daniel Martinez (EF/Drapac)
Rodrigo Contreras (EPM)
Winner Anacona (Movistar)

Sosa is riding the U23 event.

Czech Rep.
Josef Černý
Jan Hirt
Karel Hník
Roman Kreuziger
Michael Kukrle
Zdeněk Štybar

Austria.
Patrick Konrad
Felix Großschartner
Gregor Mühlbeger
Lukas Pöstlberger
Georg Preidler
Michael Gogl

Germany.
"Manny" Buchmann
Max Schachmann
Nico Denz
Marcus Burghardt
Simon Geschke
Paul Martens

Switzerland.
Mathias Frank (AG2R La Mondiale)
Kilian Frankiny (BMC Racing Team)
Steve Morabito (Groupama-FDJ) -notre photo-
Sébastien Reichenbach (Groupama-FDJ)
Michael Schär (BMC Racing Team)
Patrick Schelling (Vorarlberg Santic)

Slovenia.
Primoz Roglic
Matej Mohoric
Simon Spilak
Luka Pibernik
Jan Polanc
Jan Tratnik
Gregor Bole
Domen Novak

topper_harley

Mad_Malx wrote:

Why did our GOAT not want to do this?

he's knackered

Mad_Malx

^Been resting since the giro

shirley_basso

What of Valverde or Wout Poels?

Hard to see past Alaphilpe imv but I don't know much about the strongest climbers when gradient is over 10%

DeadCalm

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

inseine wrote:

Australia look strong (if Porte is going OK)
Mens Road Race
Simon Clarke, Rohan Dennis, Jack Haig, Chris Hamilton, Damien Howson, Richie Porte, Robert Power, Rory Sutherlandatt

Is that strong for that course.? Plenty of early race protection but can't see Porte having much in the last ten per cent

Porte has phoned in sick. No news of a replacement. No idea who will be leader. Haig?

inseine

DeadCalm wrote:

SpecialGuestStar wrote:

inseine wrote:

Australia look strong (if Porte is going OK)
Mens Road Race
Simon Clarke, Rohan Dennis, Jack Haig, Chris Hamilton, Damien Howson, Richie Porte, Robert Power, Rory Sutherlandatt

Is that strong for that course.? Plenty of early race protection but can't see Porte having much in the last ten per cent

Porte has phoned in sick. No news of a replacement. No idea who will be leader. Haig?

Well it should be Mathews if there’s any justice

DeVlaeminck

inseine wrote:

Simon Yates, Adam Yates, Ian Stannard, Connor Swift, Hugh Carthy, Pete Kennaugh, Tao Geoghagen Hart and James Knox. TGH and Alex Dowsett ride the TT

Dani Rowe, Hannah Barnes, Dani Christmas, Alice Cobb, Anna Henderson and Sophie Wright ride the RR.
Hayley Simmonds and Alice Barnes ride the TT.

Strong men's team but nothing like as strong as it could have been.

Do any of the GB women have a realistic chance - haven't seen much womens racing on Eurosport this year.

m.r.m.

Seems the strong riders have weak teams and the strong teams have no rider to finish it off with the likes of Gilbert still recovering from his crash (Bernal as well etc.)

Think Alaphilippe is the clear favourite, but no idea how strong the French team is. Kwiatkowski strong as well, but polish team is rather suspect. Spain is missing Landa to support Valverde, but might be the strongest team on paper.

RichN95.

M.R.M. wrote:

Think Alaphilippe is the clear favourite, but no idea how strong the French team is.

One of the strongest teams. Alaphilippe, Bardet, Gallopin, Geniez, Pinot, Molard, Roux and Rolland

shirley_basso

My ill informed men's RR picks:

Valgren, Alaphilpe, Poels, Valverde, Martin (D), Kwiat, Roglic, Yates maybe. Is GvA remotely in for a chance?

m.r.m.

RichN95 wrote:

M.R.M. wrote:

Think Alaphilippe is the clear favourite, but no idea how strong the French team is.

One of the strongest teams. Alaphilippe, Bardet, Gallopin, Geniez, Pinot, Molard, Roux and Rolland

Oh true! Yeah it's his to lose.

gsk82

RichN95 wrote:

M.R.M. wrote:

Think Alaphilippe is the clear favourite, but no idea how strong the French team is.

One of the strongest teams. Alaphilippe, Bardet, Gallopin, Geniez, Pinot, Molard, Roux and Rolland

Its a fairly strong collection of individuals. There's not a chance they'll ride as a unit. But I suspect that won't stop the commentators claiming that attempts to win the race for themselves by Pinot, Bardet etc are a ploy to put pressure on other teams.

DeadCalm

gsk82 wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

M.R.M. wrote:

Think Alaphilippe is the clear favourite, but no idea how strong the French team is.

One of the strongest teams. Alaphilippe, Bardet, Gallopin, Geniez, Pinot, Molard, Roux and Rolland

Its a fairly strong collection of individuals. There's not a chance they'll ride as a unit. But I suspect that won't stop the commentators claiming that attempts to win the race for themselves by Pinot, Bardet etc are a ploy to put pressure on other teams.

As long as they don't chase their own man down, with that team (which is a result of the riders they have available), surely it's a legitimate tactic to send guys up the road in the hope that something sticks, in the meantime allowing Alaphilippe to follow wheels? What would your instructions be if you were the French DS?

andyp

DeadCalm wrote:

As long as they don't chase their own man down, with that team (which is a result of the riders they have available), surely it's a legitimate tactic to send guys up the road in the hope that something sticks, in the meantime allowing Alaphilippe to follow wheels? What would your instructions be if you were the French DS?

Exactly that. Use Pinot and Bardet to attack in the closing 50 kms, with the rest keeping Alaphilippe protected and fresh for the final lap. This benefits the team as they don't have responsibility for chasing. If one of them stays away that's a good result, if it comes back together on the final lap, it should be all in for Alaphilippe.

dabber

Richie Porte out... respiratory infection.

shirley_basso

Christ. When will the man catch a break.

Perfect position for the French to dominate? What better race to watch a tactical catastrophe. DS will never reign in egos or arrange a choreographed win.

If a French rider wins (which id love to see) I doubt it would be thanks to a DS