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DeVlaeminck said:
I don't get what the protestors thought would happen without the army on their side ?
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Especially as there was apparently such a huge amount of evididence to support their case (Trump is still regularly telling us this so it must be true).briantrumpet said:As Trump is probably one of the most intelligent people he knows, with a phenomenal memory, he should be able to defend himself quite adequately. After all, he couldn't do any worse than the lawyers who lost 60 court cases trying to overturn the election results, could he?
He's reallt expriencing the meaning of the old adage of being nice to people on your way up as you'll meet them on your way down. Friends and allies seem very hard for him to find these days. If he loses the family money his own kids will probably turn on him too.
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Exactly, say they kill a few of their political enemies then what? Best case is they end up with a life sentence in one of the worst prison systems in the western world or perhaps best case is they get shot by special forces storming the building.kingstongraham said:DeVlaeminck said:I don't get what the protestors thought would happen without the army on their side ?
It's not like they can ransom politicians - give Trump 4 more years or we kill them. Had they been led to believe the military would come out and back them ?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
And the Secret Service would have taken them out.kingstongraham said:DeVlaeminck said:I don't get what the protestors thought would happen without the army on their side ?
The Secret Service are quite good at what they do. It would have been messy. Jamiroquai and his mates would have been quite sad.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Yes. I expect they would have taken them out of the back entrance. Taking them out the front would have been virtual insanity!MattFalle said:
And the Secret Service would have taken them out.kingstongraham said:DeVlaeminck said:I don't get what the protestors thought would happen without the army on their side ?
The Secret Service are quite good at what they do. It would have been messy. Jamiroquai and his mates would have been quite sad.0 -
If the aim is to create a constitutional crisis, they came pretty close.0
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I can't help but feel a lot of there recent action against trump is down to the recent threat to their safety. Watching the video of a republican getting accosted in an airport in gun toting USA. I had not realised just how exposed a lot of these congressmen and senators are.0
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NRA has filed for bankruptcy.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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How? i would have thought they were incredibly well funded.
Mismanagement?0 -
The National Rifle Association has filed for bankruptcy and announced it is moving from New York to Texas.
The gun rights advocacy group says it is making the move to escape the “toxic political environment of New York.”
Now the organisation, which has been chartered in New York since 1871, says it plans on restructuring as a Texas non-profit.
“Today, the NRA announced a restructuring plan that positions us for the long-term and ensures our continued success as the nation’s leading advocate for constitutional freedom – free from the toxic political environment of New York,” said NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre.
“The plan can be summed up quite simply: We are DUMPING New York, and we are pursuing plans to reincorporate the NRA in Texas.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/nra-bankruptcy-filing-texas-b1788166.html
That's another way of putting it.0 -
elbowloh said:
How? i would have thought they were incredibly well funded.
Mismanagement?
LaPierre has been syphoning off millions, I think, and I suspect that a lot of very dodgy funding sources have been cut off.0 -
Woman who flew in to riot on a private jet feels persecuted haha
What excuse will people give her for supporting Trump. Economic anxiety? Perhaps not.
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They are filing fbriantrumpet said:elbowloh said:How? i would have thought they were incredibly well funded.
Mismanagement?
LaPierre has been syphoning off millions, I think, and I suspect that a lot of very dodgy funding sources have been cut off.
it could well be that they are filing for bankruptcy in the NY courts to close down their NY legal side and company therefore getting out of paying their creditors - make a clean break, no chance of financial come back on them.briantrumpet said:elbowloh said:How? i would have thought they were incredibly well funded.
Mismanagement?
LaPierre has been syphoning off millions, I think, and I suspect that a lot of very dodgy funding sources have been cut off.
Also means any legal action that is currently against them as a corporate entity, of which there is probably shed loads, is now null and void as there is no entity to sue and you can't sue the new one because they didn't do nuffink.
Tbh, its probably quicker, cheaper and easier to declare bankruptcy and close down rather than close down the company normally. Bit like being struck off at Companies' House instead of closing the company down.
An old Trump trick some may say?
They then move to Texas because its a friendlier legal environment for a non profit that allows them much greater freedom of existence, you may not have to file tax returns, the directors' salaries won't be under scrutiny.
Bit like closing down the NY operation and oprning under a Delaware LLC.
the fact that they are starting up again means that they are broke.
Just an option guys.....The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I doubt the new NRA can take its assets (name and membership details) without agreeing some form of payment to the old NRA and its creditors.0
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This does sound likely. There is definitely legal cases against them right now, so it call very well be a big wheeze to make a clean break.MattFalle said:
They are filing fbriantrumpet said:elbowloh said:How? i would have thought they were incredibly well funded.
Mismanagement?
LaPierre has been syphoning off millions, I think, and I suspect that a lot of very dodgy funding sources have been cut off.
it could well be that they are filing for bankruptcy in the NY courts to close down their NY legal side and company therefore getting out of paying their creditors - make a clean break, no chance of financial come back on them.briantrumpet said:elbowloh said:How? i would have thought they were incredibly well funded.
Mismanagement?
LaPierre has been syphoning off millions, I think, and I suspect that a lot of very dodgy funding sources have been cut off.
Also means any legal action that is currently against them as a corporate entity, of which there is probably shed loads, is now null and void as there is no entity to sue and you can't sue the new one because they didn't do nuffink.
Tbh, its probably quicker, cheaper and easier to declare bankruptcy and close down rather than close down the company normally. Bit like being struck off at Companies' House instead of closing the company down.
An old Trump trick some may say?
They then move to Texas because its a friendlier legal environment for a non profit that allows them much greater freedom of existence, you may not have to file tax returns, the directors' salaries won't be under scrutiny.
Bit like closing down the NY operation and oprning under a Delaware LLC.
the fact that they are starting up again means that they are broke.
Just an option guys....
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.texastribune.org/2021/01/15/texas-nra-bankruptcy-fraud/amp/
le voila. as MF said.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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they've filed for bankruptcy not transfer of assets and closure. its different. most likely they can.TheBigBean said:I doubt the new NRA can take its assets (name and membership details) without agreeing some form of payment to the old NRA and its creditors.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Ok MF said that, but what about the other MFs? What did they say?MattFalle said:0 -
they're having breakfast. its like the grand hall at Hogwarts in there.elbowloh said:
Ok MF said that, but what about the other MFs? What did they say?MattFalle said:
basically, the NRA ain't stupid - NY is a democrat left leaning anti trump anti gun state.
texas is the most complete opposite.
if you had an organisation supporting gun rights where would you go?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Did you read the article you posted? The NRA will still be battling the same lawsuits, but will be doing it in Texas instead of New York. In addition, they will be fighting a case in New York over whether they can move.MattFalle said:
they've filed for bankruptcy not transfer of assets and closure. its different. most likely they can.TheBigBean said:I doubt the new NRA can take its assets (name and membership details) without agreeing some form of payment to the old NRA and its creditors.
You can't just walk away with assets and ignore the liabilities. Otherwise, the US would be uninvestable.0 -
TheBigBean said:
Did you read the article you posted? The NRA will still be battling the same lawsuits, but will be doing it in Texas instead of New York. In addition, they will be fighting a case in New York over whether they can move.MattFalle said:
they've filed for bankruptcy not transfer of assets and closure. its different. most likely they can.TheBigBean said:I doubt the new NRA can take its assets (name and membership details) without agreeing some form of payment to the old NRA and its creditors.
You can't just walk away with assets and ignore the liabilities. Otherwise, the US would be uninvestable.
I doubt if this one will just go away...
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/899712823/new-york-attorney-general-moves-to-dissolve-the-nra-after-fraud-investigation0 -
There are echoes I'm that story with what's happening with Unite here in the UK according to an article I read in the times this morning, particularly in
relation to awarding contracts to mates.0 -
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never mind the cake lickers whinging, this is a hash tag that anyone would be proud of....
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It's true that he's not a republican. He's an opportunistic shyster looking to make a buck and used populism to achieve power.0
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Buyers remorse, the whole of the Western world and 52% of the US voting population have flagging trump as a con man for the last five years.MattFalle said:
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Interesting take.MattFalle said:
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Maybe they should view the electing of an incompetent narcissist as the root cause of the outcomes rather than an elaborate agenda.
The poster seems more prepared to admit being deceived rather than stupid. I guess that’s a human trait as the former puts the responsibility elsewhere.0 -
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