Donald Trump
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#nitpickingMattFalle said:
SML is an appointment, not a job. His job is a Senator.First.Aspect said:
Yes, for the hard of thinking among us, his job as senate majority leader.kingstongraham said:
He's not going to still be in his job in two weeks time. Not the one that gives him power, anyway.MattFalle said:Trump lost tbe presidency and both houses. McConnell is still in his job unless I missed him not getting re-elected.
yes they lost the popular vote but tgat doesn't matter - the Reps went for the important states last time and won.
who knows what tbeir plans are.
and yeah, I've got a better grip on this because I've got a degree in it, it used to be my job and I'm still heavily involved with the US as part of my job. So no, I don't talk louder but I talk more sense, so no need to be snide.
I do like the "it is my job so..." approach. Almost as convincing as "I've got a degree in it..."
#sorrytopointouttheobvious
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Well, if you want to go down the literal approach to everything I'm fine with that. The forum is populated by a lot of pendants though, so have fun.MattFalle said:
SML is an appointment, not a job. His job is a Senator.First.Aspect said:
Yes, for the hard of thinking among us, his job as senate majority leader.kingstongraham said:
He's not going to still be in his job in two weeks time. Not the one that gives him power, anyway.MattFalle said:Trump lost tbe presidency and both houses. McConnell is still in his job unless I missed him not getting re-elected.
yes they lost the popular vote but tgat doesn't matter - the Reps went for the important states last time and won.
who knows what tbeir plans are.
and yeah, I've got a better grip on this because I've got a degree in it, it used to be my job and I'm still heavily involved with the US as part of my job. So no, I don't talk louder but I talk more sense, so no need to be snide.
I do like the "it is my job so..." approach. Almost as convincing as "I've got a degree in it..."
#sorrytopointouttheobvious
Oh, and the majority leader position attracts a salary above any old senator.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-inaccurate-salaries-pres-co/fact-check-inaccurate-claims-about-salaries-for-u-s-presidents-in-retirement-congress-members-army-soldiers-and-senior-citizens-idUSKCN2561QY
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There are certainly a lot of us who like to hang around hereFirst.Aspect said:The forum is populated by a lot of pendants
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bompington said:
There are certainly a lot of us who like to hang around hereFirst.Aspect said:The forum is populated by a lot of pendants
Did you know that 'pedant' has always been a pejorative term?1 -
Wrong thread. This is both trivial and intriguing.briantrumpet said:bompington said:
There are certainly a lot of us who like to hang around hereFirst.Aspect said:The forum is populated by a lot of pendants
Did you know that 'pedant' has always been a pejorative term?1 -
of course it does otherwise no one would take the appointment.First.Aspect said:
Well, if you want to go down the literal approach to everything I'm fine with that. The forum is populated by a lot of pendants though, so have fun.MattFalle said:
SML is an appointment, not a job. His job is a Senator.First.Aspect said:
Yes, for the hard of thinking among us, his job as senate majority leader.kingstongraham said:
He's not going to still be in his job in two weeks time. Not the one that gives him power, anyway.MattFalle said:Trump lost tbe presidency and both houses. McConnell is still in his job unless I missed him not getting re-elected.
yes they lost the popular vote but tgat doesn't matter - the Reps went for the important states last time and won.
who knows what tbeir plans are.
and yeah, I've got a better grip on this because I've got a degree in it, it used to be my job and I'm still heavily involved with the US as part of my job. So no, I don't talk louder but I talk more sense, so no need to be snide.
I do like the "it is my job so..." approach. Almost as convincing as "I've got a degree in it..."
#sorrytopointouttheobvious
Oh, and the majority leader position attracts a salary above any old senator.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-inaccurate-salaries-pres-co/fact-check-inaccurate-claims-about-salaries-for-u-s-presidents-in-retirement-congress-members-army-soldiers-and-senior-citizens-idUSKCN2561QY
#sorrryforbeingrighteventhoughIdonthaveadegreeinit
its like a sergeant major
nice use of the # though. #topjob
#pointouttheobvious
#ifyouhadadegreeyoumaynotbesodim.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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As an aside, things that shouldn't surprise you
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/14/trump-refusing-to-pay-rudy-giuliani-legal-fees-after-falling-out
#noonesawthatcoming.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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MattFalle said:
As an aside, things that shouldn't surprise you
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/14/trump-refusing-to-pay-rudy-giuliani-legal-fees-after-falling-out
#noonesawthatcoming
I guess he's always had a supply of mugs who didn't realise he stuffs absolutely everyone & anyone when he's used them. It might be more difficult to pull off that stunt in the future.0 -
The US aspect of using Mr Man plasters?MattFalle said:Trump lost tbe presidency and both houses. McConnell is still in his job unless I missed him not getting re-elected.
yes they lost the popular vote but tgat doesn't matter - the Reps went for the important states last time and won.
who knows what tbeir plans are.
and yeah, I've got a better grip on this because I've got a degree in it, it used to be my job and I'm still heavily involved with the US as part of my job. So no, I don't talk louder but I talk more sense, so no need to be snide.0 -
The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much feck all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.0 -
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Adding justices would only require a simple majority of both houses. They could add 5 if they wanted. McConnell would. And they'd all be in their 40s.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.0 -
part of it. or as they call them, band aids.elbowloh said:
The US aspect of using Mr Man plasters?MattFalle said:Trump lost tbe presidency and both houses. McConnell is still in his job unless I missed him not getting re-elected.
yes they lost the popular vote but tgat doesn't matter - the Reps went for the important states last time and won.
who knows what tbeir plans are.
and yeah, I've got a better grip on this because I've got a degree in it, it used to be my job and I'm still heavily involved with the US as part of my job. So no, I don't talk louder but I talk more sense, so no need to be snide..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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The NRA is also probably quite happy at the mo' because they were losing looooads of supporters and close to going bust but with all this madness going on there has been a massive increase in gun purchasing so one is guessing an increase in NRA membership.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.
Bizarrely there is currently a shortage of bullets in 'Murica so it seems that someone is stockpile
#putthegundown.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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yup, its a bank hahah they dont get that big without a few bumps along the wayrick_chasey said:
lol damage to the reputation? Can't damage something that's already demolished.kingstonian said:It would be politically unpalatable for DB to write it off, not just in the US but in Germany also. The damage to their already poor reputation could kill them. They won’t do it.
https://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-banks-biggest-scandals/a-54979535
Here's a hit list of some of the bigger scandals.
Or check out the wiki section on "controversies"
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yorkshireraw said:
Ref DT and his loans from D Bank - isn't the theory that the money came originally from Russia, to prop him up so he could become their useful idiot, and was channelled through DB to make it legit? Or is that all hogwash?
I did read from multiple sources that he doesn't actually own most / a lot of the stuff with his name on it (hotels etc) and that its basically a branding agreement - if the brand becomes toxic there's not a lot of substance (real estate) for Trump Org to actually sell to cover the debts.
Hopefully it will be irrelevant as he'll end up in jail for multiple financial and s3x crimes anyway.
do your multiple sources include the owner of a bike shop / COO specialist?
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Why has no one done that before?kingstongraham said:
Adding justices would only require a simple majority of both houses. They could add 5 if they wanted. McConnell would. And they'd all be in their 40s.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.0 -
Didn’t think you were an expert on the “fantasy world” too, only the “real world”david37 said:
yup, its a bank hahah they dont get that big without a few bumps along the wayrick_chasey said:
lol damage to the reputation? Can't damage something that's already demolished.kingstonian said:It would be politically unpalatable for DB to write it off, not just in the US but in Germany also. The damage to their already poor reputation could kill them. They won’t do it.
https://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-banks-biggest-scandals/a-54979535
Here's a hit list of some of the bigger scandals.
Or check out the wiki section on "controversies"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bank#Controversies0 -
Not been as 1 sided before? And/or no simultaneous majority in both houses.elbowloh said:
Why has no one done that before?kingstongraham said:
Adding justices would only require a simple majority of both houses. They could add 5 if they wanted. McConnell would. And they'd all be in their 40s.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.
I don't think this will happen, at least in any first term. Biden is running on a national unity platform. He needs to re-establish some political norms. Setting a new precedent in this way isn't going to be hight on his agenda.0 -
There are certainly similarities to Remain/Leave here.
Whilst I accept the point about 're-establishing norms' I think there is some significant room here for the Dems to 'aggressively re-enforce the norms' here. The Supreme court being a great example.
Add 2 more justices, but make them centrist justices, for example...
(I'm not honestly sure if impeaching Trump helps here or not)We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Yes, which is why they'll always get stuffed. National unity. It's like Charlie Brown being surprised when Lucy moves the football again.First.Aspect said:
Not been as 1 sided before? And/or no simultaneous majority in both houses.elbowloh said:
Why has no one done that before?kingstongraham said:
Adding justices would only require a simple majority of both houses. They could add 5 if they wanted. McConnell would. And they'd all be in their 40s.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.
I don't think this will happen, at least in any first term. Biden is running on a national unity platform. He needs to re-establish some political norms. Setting a new precedent in this way isn't going to be hight on his agenda.
It has been done before. It started as 6, and has been 7, 8, 9 and 10.
The reason it hasn't been done recently is that both parties kept it fairly balanced, until Trump/McConnell.0 -
I didn't know that. Makes it more likely I suppose.kingstongraham said:
Yes, which is why they'll always get stuffed. National unity. It's like Charlie Brown being surprised when Lucy moves the football again.First.Aspect said:
Not been as 1 sided before? And/or no simultaneous majority in both houses.elbowloh said:
Why has no one done that before?kingstongraham said:
Adding justices would only require a simple majority of both houses. They could add 5 if they wanted. McConnell would. And they'd all be in their 40s.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.
I don't think this will happen, at least in any first term. Biden is running on a national unity platform. He needs to re-establish some political norms. Setting a new precedent in this way isn't going to be hight on his agenda.
It has been done before. It started as 6, and has been 7, 8, 9 and 10.
The reason it hasn't been done recently is that both parties kept it fairly balanced, until Trump/McConnell.0 -
First.Aspect said:
I didn't know that. Makes it more likely I suppose.kingstongraham said:
Yes, which is why they'll always get stuffed. National unity. It's like Charlie Brown being surprised when Lucy moves the football again.First.Aspect said:
Not been as 1 sided before? And/or no simultaneous majority in both houses.elbowloh said:
Why has no one done that before?kingstongraham said:
Adding justices would only require a simple majority of both houses. They could add 5 if they wanted. McConnell would. And they'd all be in their 40s.elbowloh said:The Republican establishment used Trump's popularity to achieve one of their main, long-term strategic goals - they have completely swung the balance of the Supreme Court in their favour.
Even without the presidency for the next 4 (or 8 years), they've opened up the possibility of overturning Roe vs Wade and protected gun ownership (indeed this may lead to even less control as the NRA or whoever go to court to loosen restrictions on say concealed carry or types of weapons allowed).
And you know what, there's pretty much censored all Biden and his majority and both houses can do about it.
I don't think this will happen, at least in any first term. Biden is running on a national unity platform. He needs to re-establish some political norms. Setting a new precedent in this way isn't going to be hight on his agenda.
It has been done before. It started as 6, and has been 7, 8, 9 and 10.
The reason it hasn't been done recently is that both parties kept it fairly balanced, until Trump/McConnell.
Personally I think it's an utterly bonkers system where judges, appointed for life because of the political partisanship get to have such a profound effect on national policies, and are being used in proxy to decide of issues such as abortion or gun law. Such a tiny number of them inevitably means that one or two people can make a massive difference on a lot of aspects of American life for a long time.0 -
Great addition to the thread, well done.david37 said:yorkshireraw said:Ref DT and his loans from D Bank - isn't the theory that the money came originally from Russia, to prop him up so he could become their useful idiot, and was channelled through DB to make it legit? Or is that all hogwash?
I did read from multiple sources that he doesn't actually own most / a lot of the stuff with his name on it (hotels etc) and that its basically a branding agreement - if the brand becomes toxic there's not a lot of substance (real estate) for Trump Org to actually sell to cover the debts.
Hopefully it will be irrelevant as he'll end up in jail for multiple financial and s3x crimes anyway.
do your multiple sources include the owner of a bike shop / COO specialist?0 -
As Trump is probably one of the most intelligent people he knows, with a phenomenal memory, he should be able to defend himself quite adequately. After all, he couldn't do any worse than the lawyers who lost 60 court cases trying to overturn the election results, could he?
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Well, if it wasn't strictly fascism at the start, it certainly looks like it was by the end.
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Must be because there aren't many good pro bono lawyers out there.briantrumpet said:As Trump is probably one of the most intelligent people he knows, with a phenomenal memory, he should be able to defend himself quite adequately. After all, he couldn't do any worse than the lawyers who lost 60 court cases trying to overturn the election results, could he?
"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
You would hope that the prosecution at his impeachment trial would be more clued up than the entire Democratic caucus in the house. Each and every one of them stood up and emphasised how bad the violence was, but none of them really addressed Trump's role in stirring it up or argued that it was reasonable for him to have know it could happen.
It is all on Twitter and derivable from the groups following his Twitter. They didn't even take the time to count the number of Tweets he made stating either that he won, or that there was a massive steal.
Also, none that I heard bothered to address the allegation of attempted vote rigging in that call to the Georgia governor. Really, the attempts to intimidate and overturn the election results should have been a separate article.
On the basis of the articles and arguments put forward, he probably shouldn't have been impeached... even though his actions absolutely warrant it.0 -
I don't get what the protestors thought would happen without the army on their side ?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
