Donald Trump
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Any attempt Trump makes to pardon himself is surely very dangerous; by definition he would be admitting guilt even to start the process. So if he tries and fails.........elbowloh said:I suppose it does mean he can't pardon himself before he leaves office...and also stops him from running again in 2024.
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Two flaws in your thinking there.rolf_f said:
Any attempt Trump makes to pardon himself is surely very dangerous; by definition he would be admitting guilt even to start the process. So if he tries and fails.........elbowloh said:I suppose it does mean he can't pardon himself before he leaves office...and also stops him from running again in 2024.
Logic and forward planning.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Impeachment plans just released......
#release.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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PS - That Melania release reminded me.
Why should God bless America? #xenophobeThe above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
He just raised about $250M of pretty much unfettered cash and it is probably still coming in. I think he will be okay.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:
Lets see what Deutsche Bank do......First.Aspect said:Am hearing that corporate America is pulling funding donations from the Republican Party and house members who voted against certification.
Clearly they are part of the conspiracy of aliens from the future disguised as humans who are now running our major companies.
Yes, that's going to be interesting. Things could change very quickly if they think he's about to lose a lot of what he's claiming to be worth. I think they might be getting a little twitchy right now.0 -
His whole fixation on RC is weird. That and the fake hashtags.TheBigBean said:
Your crush on a pseudonym is weird.MattFalle said:
tbf Richard, you've only ever dealt with tbe lowest reaches of the personnel department dealing with filing clerks, etc, so I don't suspect you show up much on their (bike)radar...rick_chasey said:The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
Appalling organisation.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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First.Aspect said:
He just raised about $250M of pretty much unfettered cash and it is probably still coming in. I think he will be okay.briantrumpet said:MattFalle said:
Lets see what Deutsche Bank do......First.Aspect said:Am hearing that corporate America is pulling funding donations from the Republican Party and house members who voted against certification.
Clearly they are part of the conspiracy of aliens from the future disguised as humans who are now running our major companies.
Yes, that's going to be interesting. Things could change very quickly if they think he's about to lose a lot of what he's claiming to be worth. I think they might be getting a little twitchy right now.
I wouldn't be so sure of that, especially if the house of cards comes down, and he loses his usefulness for laundering Russian oligarchs' billions. That might be more conspiracy stuff, but I think there's a whole lot more to come out that might have just not been in play had he not become POTUS and leveraged that so massively. He's going to be a big prize to bring down bigly. I think his 'wealth' might be as much of a cover-up as the arrangement of hairs on top of his head.0 -
That looks to be fashionable for middle-aged men trying to talk like kids.rjsterry said:
His whole fixation on RC is weird. That and the fake hashtags.TheBigBean said:
Your crush on a pseudonym is weird.MattFalle said:
tbf Richard, you've only ever dealt with tbe lowest reaches of the personnel department dealing with filing clerks, etc, so I don't suspect you show up much on their (bike)radar...rick_chasey said:The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
Appalling organisation.
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#ageistTheBigBean said:
That looks to be fashionable for middle-aged men trying to talk like kids.rjsterry said:
His whole fixation on RC is weird. That and the fake hashtags.TheBigBean said:
Your crush on a pseudonym is weird.MattFalle said:
tbf Richard, you've only ever dealt with tbe lowest reaches of the personnel department dealing with filing clerks, etc, so I don't suspect you show up much on their (bike)radar...rick_chasey said:The one thing that DB can be relied upon is to disappoint you.
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Another essay. The NYT's reputation has taken a bit of a battering recently, but I thought this had some interesting ideas. And some parallels with what's happened to our own politics.rick_chasey said:https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/capitol-riot-senior-trump-official-calls-him-a-fascist.html
This essay on the matter is excellent.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/magazine/trump-coup.html#click=https://t.co/6mATRZRcUg1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Ahh, well though. I'm not necessarily thinking about it from Trumps perspective. More I like the idea of him trying to pardon himself and that being used as an admission of guilt in a following trial. I would enjoy that. I really hope that a) it works like this and b) nobody attempts to tell him.pblakeney said:
Two flaws in your thinking there.rolf_f said:
Any attempt Trump makes to pardon himself is surely very dangerous; by definition he would be admitting guilt even to start the process. So if he tries and fails.........elbowloh said:I suppose it does mean he can't pardon himself before he leaves office...and also stops him from running again in 2024.
Logic and forward planning.
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it would be hilarious to use it as a blanket insurance policyrolf_f said:
Ahh, well though. I'm not necessarily thinking about it from Trumps perspective. More I like the idea of him trying to pardon himself and that being used as an admission of guilt in a following trial. I would enjoy that. I really hope that a) it works like this and b) nobody attempts to tell him.pblakeney said:
Two flaws in your thinking there.rolf_f said:
Any attempt Trump makes to pardon himself is surely very dangerous; by definition he would be admitting guilt even to start the process. So if he tries and fails.........elbowloh said:I suppose it does mean he can't pardon himself before he leaves office...and also stops him from running again in 2024.
Logic and forward planning.0 -
"So sir, what would you like to be pardoned for?"
Would make for an interesting list.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
There's a text ready for him:Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.0
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Nah. He'd have to have something in there bigging himself up muchly.kingstongraham said:There's a text ready for him:
Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.
Far too concise and too many big words. 😉The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Indeed, an a lot of US banks are following suit JPMC, Citi, Signature to name a few, plus organisations that previously donated to the Republican party are withdrawing further support.MattFalle said:DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid.
I can't see many global banks being too keen to take on a 300+ mil loan from someone who may soon end up being investigated for possible financial irregularities or tax evasion.0 -
Now this is a turn up for the books.....
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It wouldn't surprise me if loans are secured on property he only owns "for a friend" or multiple loans secured against same assets. It could be a race between the banks to get the gold first.step83 said:
Indeed, an a lot of US banks are following suit JPMC, Citi, Signature to name a few, plus organisations that previously donated to the Republican party are withdrawing further support.MattFalle said:DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid.
I can't see many global banks being too keen to take on a 300+ mil loan from someone who may soon end up being investigated for possible financial irregularities or tax evasion.0 -
MattFalle said:
Now this is a turn up for the books.....
And Díck Cheney's daughter, in the House, says she'll vote for impeachment. She's not exactly a leftie... will make little difference in itself to the math, but these two things suggest that the tide might be turning. We'll see.0 -
I think DB are just going to refuse further business then go for the loans once due in 2023-24, that is if there's anything left. DB could be smart an force him to repay them now for fear of loss. It would kill the trump brand as There's an ever shrinking pool of banks who will still deal with him.darkhairedlord said:
It wouldn't surprise me if loans are secured on property he only owns "for a friend" or multiple loans secured against same assets. It could be a race between the banks to get the gold first.step83 said:
Indeed, an a lot of US banks are following suit JPMC, Citi, Signature to name a few, plus organisations that previously donated to the Republican party are withdrawing further support.MattFalle said:DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid.
I can't see many global banks being too keen to take on a 300+ mil loan from someone who may soon end up being investigated for possible financial irregularities or tax evasion.
An if McConnell backs this coming impeachment I would imagine other Republicans would follow suit as the article says they basically need to draw a line under trump now and restructure and more on.0 -
The ITV report on last week's event was quite a disturbing watch. It really feels like things are going to escalate. It's easy to dismiss those involved as extremist nutters and many of them for the mould but there were also a lot of people who are probably quite reasonable normally but that have fired themselves up on the lies that Trump has fed them.
I find it hard to comprehend people who think that people who haven't been President such as Hillary or Biden are the cause of all the woes in the country that their man has been in charge of for 4 years.0 -
Just swap your second line for “EU or Corbyn” and you have your answer.Pross said:The ITV report on last week's event was quite a disturbing watch. It really feels like things are going to escalate. It's easy to dismiss those involved as extremist nutters and many of them for the mould but there were also a lot of people who are probably quite reasonable normally but that have fired themselves up on the lies that Trump has fed them.
I find it hard to comprehend people who think that people who haven't been President such as Hillary or Biden are the cause of all the woes in the country that their man has been in charge of for 4 years.0 -
Yes the loan is c.$300m.step83 said:
I think DB are just going to refuse further business then go for the loans once due in 2023-24, that is if there's anything left. DB could be smart an force him to repay them now for fear of loss. It would kill the trump brand as There's an ever shrinking pool of banks who will still deal with him.darkhairedlord said:
It wouldn't surprise me if loans are secured on property he only owns "for a friend" or multiple loans secured against same assets. It could be a race between the banks to get the gold first.step83 said:
Indeed, an a lot of US banks are following suit JPMC, Citi, Signature to name a few, plus organisations that previously donated to the Republican party are withdrawing further support.MattFalle said:DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid.
I can't see many global banks being too keen to take on a 300+ mil loan from someone who may soon end up being investigated for possible financial irregularities or tax evasion.
An if McConnell backs this coming impeachment I would imagine other Republicans would follow suit as the article says they basically need to draw a line under trump now and restructure and more on.
They’re not gonna write that off.0 -
Maybe DB were dumb enough to lend against properties that don't offer enough cover or maybe they were smarter than that. Banks have let him off the hook in the past because they found themselves in the first position.rick_chasey said:
Yes the loan is c.$300m.step83 said:
I think DB are just going to refuse further business then go for the loans once due in 2023-24, that is if there's anything left. DB could be smart an force him to repay them now for fear of loss. It would kill the trump brand as There's an ever shrinking pool of banks who will still deal with him.darkhairedlord said:
It wouldn't surprise me if loans are secured on property he only owns "for a friend" or multiple loans secured against same assets. It could be a race between the banks to get the gold first.step83 said:
Indeed, an a lot of US banks are following suit JPMC, Citi, Signature to name a few, plus organisations that previously donated to the Republican party are withdrawing further support.MattFalle said:DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid.
I can't see many global banks being too keen to take on a 300+ mil loan from someone who may soon end up being investigated for possible financial irregularities or tax evasion.
An if McConnell backs this coming impeachment I would imagine other Republicans would follow suit as the article says they basically need to draw a line under trump now and restructure and more on.
They’re not gonna write that off.0 -
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Exactly, now do they write the loan of by selling it to some random willing to take on the risk? If so they don't have very long to do so.rick_chasey said:
Yes the loan is c.$300m.step83 said:
I think DB are just going to refuse further business then go for the loans once due in 2023-24, that is if there's anything left. DB could be smart an force him to repay them now for fear of loss. It would kill the trump brand as There's an ever shrinking pool of banks who will still deal with him.darkhairedlord said:
It wouldn't surprise me if loans are secured on property he only owns "for a friend" or multiple loans secured against same assets. It could be a race between the banks to get the gold first.step83 said:
Indeed, an a lot of US banks are following suit JPMC, Citi, Signature to name a few, plus organisations that previously donated to the Republican party are withdrawing further support.MattFalle said:DB has withdrawn
Be interesting to see what is called in and how it is paid.
I can't see many global banks being too keen to take on a 300+ mil loan from someone who may soon end up being investigated for possible financial irregularities or tax evasion.
An if McConnell backs this coming impeachment I would imagine other Republicans would follow suit as the article says they basically need to draw a line under trump now and restructure and more on.
They’re not gonna write that off.
I can't see them in their current situation being willing to write off that amount even if it were to get rid of their involvement with the Trump name.0 -
It would be politically unpalatable for DB to write it off, not just in the US but in Germany also. The damage to their already poor reputation could kill them. They won’t do it.0
