Donald Trump
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Stevo_666 said:
Keeping the lefties out of power for as long as possible is an on-going project...briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
Did the Corbyn thread stop when he lost the election? And he never got his mitts on the reins of power...
Keeping any Trumps out of power might not be a bad move either.0 -
Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
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What do you stand for?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
The nonchalant disinterest isn't a very convincing epilogue, btw. Just so you know.0 -
Is it salty?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
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I thought that they were now in power or am I not keeping up with the Johnson’s strategy.Stevo_666 said:
Keeping the lefties out of power for as long as possible is an on-going project...briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
Did the Corbyn thread stop when he lost the election? And he never got his mitts on the reins of power...
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Favourite fact
Trump is the first Republican since 1929 to have 'won' the White House without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Mr. Pot, meet Mr Kettle...kingstongraham said:
Stop whiningStevo_666 said:
The Cake Stop first law of thermodynamics - b1tching and whining is never destroyed, it just changes formorraloon said:
Let me think 🤔 Oh, there's a mini-me Trumpie looking increasingly incompetent somewhere close...Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Start a thread on it then?briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Keeping the lefties out of power for as long as possible is an on-going project...briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
Did the Corbyn thread stop when he lost the election? And he never got his mitts on the reins of power...
Keeping any Trumps out of power might not be a bad move either."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
¿Que?tailwindhome said:Favourite fact
Trump is the first Republican since 1929 to have 'won' the White House without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket.0 -
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
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I stand for respecting democratic outcomes and respecting the position of POTUS. Disrespecting POTUS is disrespectful of the US electorate, despite who is POTUS at the time. The disrespect and disgraceful actions from the likes of Sadiq Khan and the former speaker of the HoC's was a new low and said more about them, which in hindsight has proved to be correct.First.Aspect said:
What do you stand for?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
The nonchalant disinterest isn't a very convincing epilogue, btw. Just so you know.0 -
Poor writingorraloon said:
¿Que?tailwindhome said:Favourite fact
Trump is the first Republican since 1929 to have 'won' the White House without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket.
Trump was the first....“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Excellent facttailwindhome said:Favourite fact
Trump is the first Republican since 1929 to have 'won' the White House without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket.0 -
coopster_the_1st said:
I stand for respecting democratic outcomes and respecting the position of POTUS. Disrespecting POTUS is disrespectful of the US electorate, despite who is POTUS at the time. The disrespect and disgraceful actions from the likes of Sadiq Khan and the former speaker of the HoC's was a new low and said more about them, which in hindsight has proved to be correct.First.Aspect said:
What do you stand for?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
The nonchalant disinterest isn't a very convincing epilogue, btw. Just so you know.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Yeah, atrocious. Mexicans now make up around 15% of the U.S. population. Near the border it is often 95%. Where I live only 70%.rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly0 -
Rick, I considered it a rant as the statement I questioned was about the Tangoed Git's foreign policy destabilising the world. All of what you say may be considered to be bad policy decisions, but none have destabilised the world, and therefore didn't have relevance tothe point being made.rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
Trump is a toxic odious character, but that doesn't mean everything he has done is shocking, bad, or awful. Occassionally you need to recognise that.
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Stevo_666 said:
Start a thread on it then?briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Keeping the lefties out of power for as long as possible is an on-going project...briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
Did the Corbyn thread stop when he lost the election? And he never got his mitts on the reins of power...
Keeping any Trumps out of power might not be a bad move either.
We've got one already. Here.0 -
Now do Scotland0
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This presupposes that the electorate *knew* they had elected a sociopathic racist though doesn't it?coopster_the_1st said:
I stand for respecting democratic outcomes and respecting the position of POTUS. Disrespecting POTUS is disrespectful of the US electorate, despite who is POTUS at the time. The disrespect and disgraceful actions from the likes of Sadiq Khan and the former speaker of the HoC's was a new low and said more about them, which in hindsight has proved to be correct.First.Aspect said:
What do you stand for?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
The nonchalant disinterest isn't a very convincing epilogue, btw. Just so you know.
Bit like brexit. Lets all pretend everyone *knew* it would all come down to hard Brexit vs fishing quotas.
Personally I think it is okay to say, shït, even though he is POTUS (not a divine entity by the way) he seems to be totally unhinged.
Unless you think a democratic mandate means.do.and say what you want.0 -
With interest rates at record low levels why don’t you support borrowing to boost growth?rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly0 -
Well I never realised that there was such a large Mexican community in Southampton.swjohnsey said:
Yeah, atrocious. Mexicans now make up around 15% of the U.S. population. Near the border it is often 95%. Where I live only 70%.rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly1 -
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Rick, I considered it a rant because it didn't have any relevance to the point that I was questioning - namely the suggestion that Trump's foreign policy has destabilised the world. It clearly hasn't.rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
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Do you mean Mexians oe people who look like they might be Mexicans? Sombreros and wotnot.swjohnsey said:
Yeah, atrocious. Mexicans now make up around 15% of the U.S. population. Near the border it is often 95%. Where I live only 70%.rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
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Bought this from Jello Biafra in 2016. It’s worked at last . NTFO!!!0 -
Goodbye Orange Khunt
Though I never liked you at all
You had no brain to control yourself
While those behind you trolled
They crawled out of your ar5ehole
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on a pedestal
And they made you an incredible shame
And it seems you lived your life
Like a pr1ck with no idea
Never stopping with the insults
When reality set in
And I would have liked to kick you
But I was not close enough
Your brain burned out long before
The voters xxxxed you away
Edit: 'kin Cbeebies filters!0 -
Haven't 70m American's voted for, as you label him the "sociopathic racist" again?First.Aspect said:
This presupposes that the electorate *knew* they had elected a sociopathic racist though doesn't it.coopster_the_1st said:
I stand for respecting democratic outcomes and respecting the position of POTUS. Disrespecting POTUS is disrespectful of the US electorate, despite who is POTUS at the time. The disrespect and disgraceful actions from the likes of Sadiq Khan and the former speaker of the HoC's was a new low and said more about them, which in hindsight has proved to be correct.First.Aspect said:
What do you stand for?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
The nonchalant disinterest isn't a very convincing epilogue, btw. Just so you know.
Bit like brexit. Lets all pretend everyone *knew* it would all come down to hard Brexit vs fishing quotas.
We don't live in their shoes, so we don't know their reasons for voting the way they have, but I don't think 70m people can be seen as wrong because of their political views. It's just the other side have won this time.
Ironic that you bring up Brexit in a US orientated thread. Both Republicans and Democrats would be 100% Leavers as they would never allow their politicians to transfer powers to EU like political experiment.0 -
Yep, never waged war on Scotland.briantrumpet said:
...and probably wants to avoid real wars where he's got property.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
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seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
So I am going to call the 15% Mexican comment as racist. The *latino* population in the US is 16-18%. These are US citizens. Who don't look like John Wayne.First.Aspect said:
Do you mean Mexians oe people who look like they might be Mexicans? Sombreros and wotnot.swjohnsey said:
Yeah, atrocious. Mexicans now make up around 15% of the U.S. population. Near the border it is often 95%. Where I live only 70%.rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
I love visiting the US, but I baffled how a nation in which almost no-one is of indiginous descent can have such a clear and racist notion of "them" and "us". Particularly when there is such a tolerant nation to the north.
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Sorry, I rarely get involved in this low-level mudslinging, but to hear you talk of ‘respect’ for democratically-elected representatives is ridiculous. If I could be bothered I’d quote your hundreds of comments denigrating the UK government’s response to a pandemic. From what I can tell you respect very little. That’s fine, challenging views is important. Hypocrisy is not.coopster_the_1st said:
I stand for respecting democratic outcomes and respecting the position of POTUS. Disrespecting POTUS is disrespectful of the US electorate, despite who is POTUS at the time. The disrespect and disgraceful actions from the likes of Sadiq Khan and the former speaker of the HoC's was a new low and said more about them, which in hindsight has proved to be correct.First.Aspect said:
What do you stand for?coopster_the_1st said:Looks like it is another evening of this in this thread
The nonchalant disinterest isn't a very convincing epilogue, btw. Just so you know.1
