Donald Trump
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No.First.Aspect said:
And there are some seats up for re-election in 2021.kingstongraham said:
This would be progress. Senate not decided yet though.swjohnsey said:I guess the good new is that Biden can't do much more than redecorate the White House without the consent of the senate. Kamala said that when she becomes president she will leave the White House white, just paint the trim pink.
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Perhaps the pendulum has stopped swinging so Far Right. Happy days are back in the middle somewhere.0
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left the forum March 20230
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Now is when he will find out who his friends are.ugo.santalucia said:
I'm picturing rats and a ship.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Tend to do worse then though.First.Aspect said:
And there are some seats up for re-election in 2021.kingstongraham said:
This would be progress. Senate not decided yet though.swjohnsey said:I guess the good new is that Biden can't do much more than redecorate the White House without the consent of the senate. Kamala said that when she becomes president she will leave the White House white, just paint the trim pink.
Best hopes are for the runoff in Georgia. However with Trump out it is not clear if the democrat voters will be as motivated...
I guess the good thing is the Senate will be very close. So maybe some chance for reaching agreements...0 -
Let me think 🤔 Oh, there's a mini-me Trumpie looking increasingly incompetent somewhere close...Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
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In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?0
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Sorry, 2022.swjohnsey said:
No.First.Aspect said:
And there are some seats up for re-election in 2021.kingstongraham said:
This would be progress. Senate not decided yet though.swjohnsey said:I guess the good new is that Biden can't do much more than redecorate the White House without the consent of the senate. Kamala said that when she becomes president she will leave the White House white, just paint the trim pink.
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You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.1 -
There's 2 seats up for grabs in 2021.First.Aspect said:
Sorry, 2022.swjohnsey said:
No.First.Aspect said:
And there are some seats up for re-election in 2021.kingstongraham said:
This would be progress. Senate not decided yet though.swjohnsey said:I guess the good new is that Biden can't do much more than redecorate the White House without the consent of the senate. Kamala said that when she becomes president she will leave the White House white, just paint the trim pink.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Sure, but those are the run-offs in Georgia.tailwindhome said:
There's 2 seats up for grabs in 2021.First.Aspect said:
Sorry, 2022.swjohnsey said:
No.First.Aspect said:
And there are some seats up for re-election in 2021.kingstongraham said:
This would be progress. Senate not decided yet though.swjohnsey said:I guess the good new is that Biden can't do much more than redecorate the White House without the consent of the senate. Kamala said that when she becomes president she will leave the White House white, just paint the trim pink.
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Ok.
That's unexpected
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
I suspect he's started no new wars as he's been seen as an easy target by adversaries: he's been played by North Korea and Russia, for starters, and probably wants to avoid real wars where he's got property.
I think he's like Johnson in that he's a man of no fixed principle except in self-belief, stoking his own ego, and trying to avoid bankruptcy.0 -
Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
Did the Corbyn thread stop when he lost the election? And he never got his mitts on the reins of power...0 -
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.0 -
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The banks can now foreclose on all that debt. There will be a race to get in first.briantrumpet said:nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
I suspect he's started no new wars as he's been seen as an easy target by adversaries: he's been played by North Korea and Russia, for starters, and probably wants to avoid real wars where he's got property.
I think he's like Johnson in that he's a man of no fixed principle except in self-belief, stoking his own ego, and trying to avoid bankruptcy.0 -
Encouraging and empowering dictators will be destabilizing in the longer term. Ditto wjat he has done in the middle east, arguably. And has not annoying his mate Vlad done anything to moderate Russian behaviour? No.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The reasom popularism is bad is because it seeks simple answers to complicated problems. It says. See all you guys, including the smart ones sat at the back? I have a totally new way. One you haven't thought of, and I'm gonna go do it.... The problem is, the smart guys thought of it and discounted it as the stupid idea that it is.
Besides, these are all actions based on not giving much of a crap about anything other that the US. Or rather, himself. So it is largely coincidental.0 -
First.Aspect said:
Encouraging and empowering dictators will be destabilizing in the longer term. Ditto wjat he has done in the middle east, arguably. And has not annoying his mate Vlad done anything to moderate Russian behaviour? No.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The reasom popularism is bad is because it seeks simple answers to complicated problems. It says. See all you guys, including the smart ones sat at the back? I have a totally new way. One you haven't thought of, and I'm gonna go do it.... The problem is, the smart guys thought of it and discounted it as the stupid idea that it is.
Besides, these are all actions based on not giving much of a censored about anything other that the US. Or rather, himself. So it is largely coincidental.
It's also easy not to start wars, if you make no demands, and give aggressors what they want. It might 'work' in the short term, but somewhere down the road, the problems will emerge. As with coronavirus, tweeting won't make the problem disappear.1 -
Did focibly removing dictators in Iraq and Libiya increase or decrease stability? Or a dictator dying in Yugoslavia?First.Aspect said:
Encouraging and empowering dictators will be destabilizing in the longer term. Ditto wjat he has done in the middle east, arguably. And has not annoying his mate Vlad done anything to moderate Russian behaviour? No.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The reasom popularism is bad is because it seeks simple answers to complicated problems. It says. See all you guys, including the smart ones sat at the back? I have a totally new way. One you haven't thought of, and I'm gonna go do it.... The problem is, the smart guys thought of it and discounted it as the stupid idea that it is.
Besides, these are all actions based on not giving much of a censored about anything other that the US. Or rather, himself. So it is largely coincidental.
I'm certainly not saying we want such regimes in place, but removing them has proven to open a can of very nasty worms.
Gaining change by engaging and getting behaviour modified is surely the more stable long term way?1 -
Instead of Russia!!!swjohnsey said:China is also celebrating the Biden victory.
I've read that there's a rivalry between Russia and China over the years. Both ideology and power. Now China seems to be more of a superpower than Russia it makes sense they own the POTUS instead of Russia. The baton of power in the East has finally been handed over by Russia to China. Lol!
In case you can't tell I'm poking fun at our Milton Keynes based fake Texan. With the end of trump will the word fake start to lose its popularity??0 -
Its not a binary decision between empire builders and facists is it? Is there room for disapproval and sanctions, that sort of thing?Dorset_Boy said:
Did focibly removing dictators in Iraq and Libiya increase or decrease stability? Or a dictator dying in Yugoslavia?First.Aspect said:
Encouraging and empowering dictators will be destabilizing in the longer term. Ditto wjat he has done in the middle east, arguably. And has not annoying his mate Vlad done anything to moderate Russian behaviour? No.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The reasom popularism is bad is because it seeks simple answers to complicated problems. It says. See all you guys, including the smart ones sat at the back? I have a totally new way. One you haven't thought of, and I'm gonna go do it.... The problem is, the smart guys thought of it and discounted it as the stupid idea that it is.
Besides, these are all actions based on not giving much of a censored about anything other that the US. Or rather, himself. So it is largely coincidental.
I'm certainly not saying we want such regimes in place, but removing them has proven to open a can of very nasty worms.
Gaining change by engaging and getting behaviour modified is surely the more stable long term way?
I think what he did with Iran could turn out to be pretty bad as well by the way. He undid a few years of hard work in one whim.0 -
The Cake Stop first law of thermodynamics - b1tching and whining is never destroyed, it just changes formorraloon said:
Let me think 🤔 Oh, there's a mini-me Trumpie looking increasingly incompetent somewhere close...Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said: "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Keeping the lefties out of power for as long as possible is an on-going project...briantrumpet said:Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
Did the Corbyn thread stop when he lost the election? And he never got his mitts on the reins of power..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stop whiningStevo_666 said:
The Cake Stop first law of thermodynamics - b1tching and whining is never destroyed, it just changes formorraloon said:
Let me think 🤔 Oh, there's a mini-me Trumpie looking increasingly incompetent somewhere close...Stevo_666 said:
Pretty soon...compared to how long this thread has been going on for. But where will all the b1tching and whining go?rick_chasey said:
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