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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
71,000,000 Legal Votes. The most EVER for a sitting President!
Just a pity about the opposing 75,000,000 legal votes.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Yep, and I see UK below par performance as due to Brexit so not cyclical.rick_chasey said:
Arguably it made the cost of rona stimulus more expensive for little gain.surrey_commuter said:
What is the difference between borrowing to increase growth from zero to 1% rather than from 2% to 3%? If it is a good idea to exploit record low rates why set an arbitrary rate of growth? It could be argued that 3% is their long term rate of growth.rick_chasey said:
Didn’t really need to do it and it didn’t do what stimulus ought to.surrey_commuter said:
With interest rates at record low levels why don’t you support borrowing to boost growth?rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
Could have done with the extra headroom going into rona for chunkier stimulus
The extra headroom is my point about the UK that you have always argued against.
You know i talk about counter cyclical fiscal policy .
US long term growth rate is 3% and when it dipped Trump borrowed money to drive it along at that rate. He did not cause inflation and could borrow at record low rates so I don’t get your problem.0 -
I wonder if the orange imbecile will realise that he could have the same proportion of 'illegal' votes as Biden? Or even, please let it be so, more than Biden?
The older I get, the better I was.0 -
I went to an interesting economics lecture in January that basically said the US was doing well, but everyone had been really gloomy due to trump and the trade wars.surrey_commuter said:
Yep, and I see UK below par performance as due to Brexit so not cyclical.rick_chasey said:
Arguably it made the cost of rona stimulus more expensive for little gain.surrey_commuter said:
What is the difference between borrowing to increase growth from zero to 1% rather than from 2% to 3%? If it is a good idea to exploit record low rates why set an arbitrary rate of growth? It could be argued that 3% is their long term rate of growth.rick_chasey said:
Didn’t really need to do it and it didn’t do what stimulus ought to.surrey_commuter said:
With interest rates at record low levels why don’t you support borrowing to boost growth?rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
Could have done with the extra headroom going into rona for chunkier stimulus
The extra headroom is my point about the UK that you have always argued against.
You know i talk about counter cyclical fiscal policy .
US long term growth rate is 3% and when it dipped Trump borrowed money to drive it along at that rate. He did not cause inflation and could borrow at record low rates so I don’t get your problem.0 -
Despite is not the same as because of.TheBigBean said:
I went to an interesting economics lecture in January that basically said the US was doing well, but everyone had been really gloomy due to trump and the trade wars.surrey_commuter said:
Yep, and I see UK below par performance as due to Brexit so not cyclical.rick_chasey said:
Arguably it made the cost of rona stimulus more expensive for little gain.surrey_commuter said:
What is the difference between borrowing to increase growth from zero to 1% rather than from 2% to 3%? If it is a good idea to exploit record low rates why set an arbitrary rate of growth? It could be argued that 3% is their long term rate of growth.rick_chasey said:
Didn’t really need to do it and it didn’t do what stimulus ought to.surrey_commuter said:
With interest rates at record low levels why don’t you support borrowing to boost growth?rick_chasey said:
Bit disappointed you felt it was a rant.Dorset_Boy said:
Further up thread someone suggested he had destabilised the world. I countered that he hadn't.nickice said:
He's an awful man and very unpresidential but there are some areas he's done quite well in (compared to other presidents). He hasn't led the US into any new wars for starters. His foreign policy, if separated from the man, is probably relatively successful.pblakeney said:
You'd have to find the policy first.nickice said:In terms of policy, and only policy, how does Donald Trump compare to any other Republican president or any other president for that matter?
It's been hidden behind on the wing speeches and tweets.
Rick then ranted with a list of 'bad' foreign policy actions.
None of them had destabilised the world, and possibly actually had the opposite effect - eg engaging with N Korea, even though it is a horrible dictatorship, or pulling out of Syria and therefore not having conflict with Russia, even if it isn't a great result for moderates and ordinary citizens.
The Syrian withdrawal was one of the worst betrayals of an ally, the Kurds anyone has seen in a generation and it played right into the hands of his favourite despots Erdogan and Putin so I’m disappointed you see the hasty Syrian withdrawal. It was properly disgraceful.
I think Trump’s policies on the Mexican border were atrocious.
His dismantling of the climate change policies in the US are obviously problematic.
His general (mis)management of the functions and institutions in the US, which I’d argue is a policy, has eroded a chunk of the functionality of the state - a whole host remained either unmanned or run by people who were so ill suited to the role (by background).
The fiscal stimulus was very badly timed - pro cyclical and ineffective given the cost because it was generous to very well off and not much else.
Above all though the tearing up of the pandemic preparations and having a president indulge in conspiracy theories, refusing to set an example re masks (and turning it into a political issue) refusing to take the pandemic seriously in the early phase etc etc has been very costly
Could have done with the extra headroom going into rona for chunkier stimulus
The extra headroom is my point about the UK that you have always argued against.
You know i talk about counter cyclical fiscal policy .
US long term growth rate is 3% and when it dipped Trump borrowed money to drive it along at that rate. He did not cause inflation and could borrow at record low rates so I don’t get your problem.0 -
Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
Lol“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
This is getting so good I don't want it to stop.tailwindhome said:Four Seasons Total Landscaping.
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They dont need him to concede.kingstongraham said:0 -
Saw some funny ones conflating British people setting off fireworks on the closest Saturday to bonfire night with celebrating Biden...rick_chasey said:
Really enjoying these videos of New York celebrating.
Still love that place.
And the church bells in Paris were to do with the Nice stabbing, not Trump.1 -
Shouldn't America split into North, South, East. West?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I think they'd prefer him not to break everything he possibly can in the next two months though.darkhairedlord said:
They dont need him to concede.kingstongraham said:
Could even be "pardon me and I decide to drop the Obamacare lawsuit".0 -
kingstongraham said:
I think they'd prefer him not to break everything he possibly can in the next two months though.darkhairedlord said:
They dont need him to concede.kingstongraham said:
Could even be "pardon me and I decide to drop the Obamacare lawsuit".
He's merely continuing his 'quid pro quo' habit. Give him his due, he realises that a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips is quite a good bargaining chip.0 -
If trump doesn't behave he can be removed from office.briantrumpet said:kingstongraham said:
I think they'd prefer him not to break everything he possibly can in the next two months though.darkhairedlord said:
They dont need him to concede.kingstongraham said:
Could even be "pardon me and I decide to drop the Obamacare lawsuit".
He's merely continuing his 'quid pro quo' habit. Give him his due, he realises that a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips is quite a good bargaining chip.0 -
In Januarydarkhairedlord said:
If trump doesn't behave he can be removed from office.briantrumpet said:kingstongraham said:
I think they'd prefer him not to break everything he possibly can in the next two months though.darkhairedlord said:
They dont need him to concede.kingstongraham said:
Could even be "pardon me and I decide to drop the Obamacare lawsuit".
He's merely continuing his 'quid pro quo' habit. Give him his due, he realises that a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips is quite a good bargaining chip.0 -
Earlier, if he is deemed unfit.kingstongraham said:
In Januarydarkhairedlord said:
If trump doesn't behave he can be removed from office.briantrumpet said:kingstongraham said:
I think they'd prefer him not to break everything he possibly can in the next two months though.darkhairedlord said:
They dont need him to concede.kingstongraham said:
Could even be "pardon me and I decide to drop the Obamacare lawsuit".
He's merely continuing his 'quid pro quo' habit. Give him his due, he realises that a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips is quite a good bargaining chip.0 -
Well, he's golfing again. Good job there's not much to do...0
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You really figure Trump will just fade away? I expecting some fireworks in the next couple of months, pardons and firing for a start.briantrumpet said:Well, he's golfing again. Good job there's not much to do...
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The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.2 -
I've been enjoying Coops today. Good entertainment! Better than the usually manages. Thank you Coops!
Our Coops is much better at it than our Swonsey I think.0 -
This is what worries me. God knows what that clown will decide to do in the next 2 months.swjohnsey said:
You really figure Trump will just fade away? I expecting some fireworks in the next couple of months, pardons and firing for a start.briantrumpet said:Well, he's golfing again. Good job there's not much to do...
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For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.0
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Ok then, list the top 3 things Trump did that were of direct benefit to the Uk. Or if there are more maybe start a poll?focuszing723 said:For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.
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He's said nice things about the UK and the Queen when he visited, isn't that enough!orraloon said:
Ok then, list the top 3 things Trump did that were of direct benefit to the Uk. Or if there are more maybe start a poll?focuszing723 said:For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.
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He said nice things about Kim Jong-un as well.focuszing723 said:
He's said nice things about the UK and the Queen when he visited, isn't that enough!orraloon said:
Ok then, list the top 3 things Trump did that were of direct benefit to the Uk. Or if there are more maybe start a poll?focuszing723 said:For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
And he has a thing for Russian women.pblakeney said:
He said nice things about Kim Jong-un as well.focuszing723 said:
He's said nice things about the UK and the Queen when he visited, isn't that enough!orraloon said:
Ok then, list the top 3 things Trump did that were of direct benefit to the Uk. Or if there are more maybe start a poll?focuszing723 said:For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.
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didn't stop him imposing tariffs on uk goods in retaliation for airbus subsidies (which the uk benefitted from)focuszing723 said:For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.
my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
While being au fait with Boeing getting subsidies.sungod said:
didn't stop him imposing tariffs on uk goods in retaliation for airbus subsidies (which the uk benefitted from)focuszing723 said:For all the slagging off Trump got in this thread he liked the UK in the main and the Queen.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I hate you lot! You always have to come up with stupid facts and boring rational thought.0
