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The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.2 -
The museum in Brecon had the Rourke's Drift stuff. By weird coincidence I went there as a kid and when I came home sat down with my dad to watch the snooker only for it to be interrupted by the action from the Iranian Embassy.blazing_saddles said:
I thought it was Cwrt y Gollen. I would have definitely described their museum as small and I seem to recall from the dim and distant that they had Rorke's Drift memorabilia.ballysmate said:
PATA?swjohnsey said:
Probably. We were in Wales somewhere within driving distance of Hereford. They took us to some little museum where the guys who fought the Zulus at Rorke Drift and won all the Victoria's Crosses. Forgot or never knew the name of the base. I remember that they had an old airliner fuselage they used to practice hostage rescue on.kingstonian said:
He means Pen Y Fan, in the Brecon Beacons. Loadsa fun to be had yomping around there, not......First.Aspect said:Is Penny Fang anywhere near Sliding Edge. Or Nen Bevis?
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They do indeed.Pross said:
The museum in Brecon had the Rourke's Drift stuff. By weird coincidence I went there as a kid and when I came home sat down with my dad to watch the snooker only for it to be interrupted by the action from the Iranian Embassy.blazing_saddles said:
I thought it was Cwrt y Gollen. I would have definitely described their museum as small and I seem to recall from the dim and distant that they had Rorke's Drift memorabilia.ballysmate said:
PATA?swjohnsey said:
Probably. We were in Wales somewhere within driving distance of Hereford. They took us to some little museum where the guys who fought the Zulus at Rorke Drift and won all the Victoria's Crosses. Forgot or never knew the name of the base. I remember that they had an old airliner fuselage they used to practice hostage rescue on.kingstonian said:
He means Pen Y Fan, in the Brecon Beacons. Loadsa fun to be had yomping around there, not......First.Aspect said:Is Penny Fang anywhere near Sliding Edge. Or Nen Bevis?
All long gone, now.
When Cwrt y Gollen museum closed, I believe their exhibition was added to the collection already held at regimental museum.
I also went there as a kid, but that was years before the Iranian Embassy siege!
They didn't have the Zulu War room back then, but I do recall they had the big collection of musketry and guns."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Isn't that phrase about advertising revenue and viewers?coopster_the_1st said:
The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.0 -
How are Ben and Jerry's doing since they went down this avenue?kingstongraham said:
Isn't that phrase about advertising revenue and viewers?coopster_the_1st said:
The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.0 -
So a prominent Democrat congresswoman and future potential Presidential candidate is advocating lists of Trump supporters?
It's going to be interesting watching this play out with those who proclaim to be anti fascists...0 -
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FTFYcoopster_the_1st said:
How arekingstongraham said:
Isn't that phrase about advertising revenue and viewers?coopster_the_1st said:
The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.Ben and Jerry'sUnilever doing since they went down this avenue?
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Trump didn't invent the system that involves primaries, slow counting and lame duck presidents. Every constituency in the UK announced the result by the end of the following day.rick_chasey said:
All part of Trump’s playbookTheBigBean said:When is world's slowest election process likely to end?
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I don't really agree with it anyway. They employ plenty of right leaning commentators and journalists. The problem theyve got is they are so busy trying to be seen to be impartial it ends up being very bland and actually makes it less useful. As in this case, they've tried so hard not to give the appearance of favouring Biden that they aren't really telling it like it is.kingstongraham said:
Isn't that phrase about advertising revenue and viewers?coopster_the_1st said:
The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.0 -
For what it is worth, I much prefer that to every other media organisation that seems to spend its entire time trying to fit the news to its agenda.bobmcstuff said:
I don't really agree with it anyway. They employ plenty of right leaning commentators and journalists. The problem theyve got is they are so busy trying to be seen to be impartial it ends up being very bland and actually makes it less useful. As in this case, they've tried so hard not to give the appearance of favouring Biden that they aren't really telling it like it is.kingstongraham said:
Isn't that phrase about advertising revenue and viewers?coopster_the_1st said:
The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.
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They should send over those vote counters from Sunderland. They seem to manage to get the results out in about an hour!0
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Trump's party prevented the mail in ballots being counted before election day.TheBigBean said:
Trump didn't invent the system that involves primaries, slow counting and lame duck presidents. Every constituency in the UK announced the result by the end of the following day.rick_chasey said:
All part of Trump’s playbookTheBigBean said:When is world's slowest election process likely to end?
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I quite like the theory that the other networks are trolling Fox.
Let them call it.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I don't think they count them in advance in the UK. Also, it is the same in every US election (the slow counting bit).tailwindhome said:
Trump's party prevented the mail in ballots being counted before election day.TheBigBean said:
Trump didn't invent the system that involves primaries, slow counting and lame duck presidents. Every constituency in the UK announced the result by the end of the following day.rick_chasey said:
All part of Trump’s playbookTheBigBean said:When is world's slowest election process likely to end?
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True, true.TheBigBean said:
For what it is worth, I much prefer that to every other media organisation that seems to spend its entire time trying to fit the news to its agenda.bobmcstuff said:
I don't really agree with it anyway. They employ plenty of right leaning commentators and journalists. The problem theyve got is they are so busy trying to be seen to be impartial it ends up being very bland and actually makes it less useful. As in this case, they've tried so hard not to give the appearance of favouring Biden that they aren't really telling it like it is.kingstongraham said:
Isn't that phrase about advertising revenue and viewers?coopster_the_1st said:
The simplest way to sum up the where the problem is for the BBC is:morstar said:
But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.bobmcstuff said:
I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.sungod said:
yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degradedmorstar said:I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
"Go woke, go broke"
The recent positioning in respect to this is what is causing all their problems and the commercial sector is moving quickly to take over in the huge gap the BBC are leaving.
They could still have been clearer that Biden was odds on to win from much earlier on, without it appearing partisan.0 -
This dribs and drabs, county by county approach is good for theatre but you have wonder if a more formal or structured process might be a bit clearer.TheBigBean said:
I don't think they count them in advance in the UK. Also, it is the same in every US election (the slow counting bit).tailwindhome said:
Trump's party prevented the mail in ballots being counted before election day.TheBigBean said:
Trump didn't invent the system that involves primaries, slow counting and lame duck presidents. Every constituency in the UK announced the result by the end of the following day.rick_chasey said:
All part of Trump’s playbookTheBigBean said:When is world's slowest election process likely to end?
Mail in ballots take longer to count and there are a lot more of them this time so this was fairly predictable.0 -
Apparently Pennsylvania had 2.6 million mail in ballots.
The whole process seems bonkers, in particular the queueing to vote. Here you could pour a cup of tea, go vote and be back before it got cold.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Even STV PR elections in Ireland don't go on this long.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Ignoring the coalition negotiations afterwards presumably?tailwindhome said:Even STV PR elections in Ireland don't go on this long.
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No he didn't. It is state law and varies from state to state. For instance, in Texas no ballots are counted until after the polls close.tailwindhome said:
Trump's party prevented the mail in ballots being counted before election day.TheBigBean said:
Trump didn't invent the system that involves primaries, slow counting and lame duck presidents. Every constituency in the UK announced the result by the end of the following day.rick_chasey said:
All part of Trump’s playbookTheBigBean said:When is world's slowest election process likely to end?
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That's about what I did. Walked in, picked up a ballot, voted, got my sticker and walked out. You got to see what the press wanted you to see.tailwindhome said:Apparently Pennsylvania had 2.6 million mail in ballots.
The whole process seems bonkers, in particular the queueing to vote. Here you could pour a cup of tea, go vote and be back before it got cold.0 -
I wonder if he will go completely mad and burn down the white house, a la Emperor Nero... that would be a classy way to leaveleft the forum March 20230
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Depends where you live doesn't it.swjohnsey said:
That's about what I did. Walked in, picked up a ballot, voted, got my sticker and walked out. You got to see what the press wanted you to see.tailwindhome said:Apparently Pennsylvania had 2.6 million mail in ballots.
The whole process seems bonkers, in particular the queueing to vote. Here you could pour a cup of tea, go vote and be back before it got cold.
Obviously I don't live there but lots of pretty reputable reports of what is basically voter suppression, by making it harder to vote in certain areas.
Also didn't the queues look worse because of social distancing - to some extent.0 -
ugo.santalucia said:
I wonder if he will go completely mad and burn down the white house, a la Emperor Nero... that would be a classy way to leave
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I don't think counting in advance would be the right thing anyway. There are strict rules in the UK on exit polls and counting to prevent it influencing votes.0
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ABC just called the election for Biden.0
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Agree, but maybe they could get the ballots out of the envelopes and check that they are OK in advance... although of course that would increase the risks of tamperingTheBigBean said:I don't think counting in advance would be the right thing anyway. There are strict rules in the UK on exit polls and counting to prevent it influencing votes.
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CNN called it.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Be nice if the could complete this election before Trump has completed a second term............"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
