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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,816
    sungod said:

    Some rumours are circulating he (DT) may concede.

    if he were to do that, it'd be the sole stylish act of his presidency
    I guarantee he won't do so with any style or grace.
  • So, is he going to concede because his hillbillies with guns have not revolted in big enough numbers?
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  • I did read that - talk of Parkinson's
  • I did read that - talk of Parkinson's

    hope so...
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167

    I did read that - talk of Parkinson's

    Based on the way he picks glasses of water up without his thumbs, and cannot walk sometimes? Who knows. He will be 78 next time around. In the interim he will be doing podcasts with Lance Armstrong critiquing Biden.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    sungod said:

    Some rumours are circulating he (DT) may concede.

    if he were to do that, it'd be the sole stylish act of his presidency
    I don't think you could call it stylish. You could say it would be the one conventional action of his presidency. It's what the losing candidate usually does.
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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,167
    swjohnsey said:

    swjohnsey said:

    swjohnsey said:

    swjohnsey said:


    This is interesting. If they were running for governor instead of president this would require a run-off as no one got over 50%
    How many states would that apply to (a) in 2020 (b) in 2016 (c) in 2000?

    Just as mere examples of when a less popular Republican "won". You can't have it both ways.
    Not positive but I would guess just about all states require a majority not a plurality. You will notice several run-offs for senate and house seats.
    Weird that you don't know that Texas doesn't for any general elections.

    I didn't know that. It changed back in 1986 after I got out of college. It hasn't come up so I didn't notice.
    You were 39 when you graduated?
    I was in my 30s. I spent 20 years in the army before I went to college. I only have two degrees.
    I take it math isn't one of them? A US college degree is 4 years. So you joined the army aged 11.

    Or, a masters is minimum 2 years. So you might have been 13.

    When did you squeeze in learning to fly?
  • Well we are at the point now where the party has to decide what to do with him. Follow him to the courts or wash their hands of him.
  • Well we are at the point now where the party has to decide what to do with him. Follow him to the courts or wash their hands of him.

    Obviously in UK politics, they would dispose of him very quickly...
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435

    Well we are at the point now where the party has to decide what to do with him. Follow him to the courts or wash their hands of him.

    Obviously in UK politics, they would dispose of him very quickly...
    They are deserting him already.



    Republican senator in PA said there is nothing wrong with their vote counting process earlier today.

    The Supreme Court thing for PA won't go anywhere either:



    And in the media. Just saw Rush Limbaugh (Trump fanboy radio host) has admitted Biden will win (for example). Being reported as a Biden win by Fox etc as well.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    The thing with the court cases is there just isn't a good case in most places - a lot of it was decided before the election when Republicans tried to get mail in ballots disallowed in advance.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2020
    The BBC's live blog is shoddy - fair enough that they don't want to make any wrong calls, but no mention of the expected split in the remaining mail in votes.

    For example:
    Pennsylvania

    We may get a result in the near future as Biden's lead over Trump here appears to be growing
    In Philadelphia, officials are still counting postal votes that came in before Election Day
    As of an hour ago, Biden had a lead of over 5,500 votes


    No mention of the fact that all of the remaining votes are from heavily Democrat leaning areas. Pennsylvania should be called any time soon, if the networks hadn't wrongly called Arizona so early, they probably would have already (although now looks like Arizona will hold).

    If you were only looking at the BBC you would get the impression that Trump actually has something left to play for - he does not, and has not since at least yesterday if not late Wednesday.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    I read a really interesting article about how Murdoch has slowly but surely been pulling his Trump support over the past 6 months, which even brought Fox News to calm down a bit with their pro-Trump rhetoric. No one now wants to be associated with the orange fella, the media outlets and most senior Republicans all realise he’s toxic.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
    I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
    Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I guess it’s about time the nationalists and Republicans took a good hard look at themselves and wonder why they were spanked in the popular vote and lost the electoral college too.


    Isn’t that how it works? Or only when populists get elected?
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,348
    morstar said:

    I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
    I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
    Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.

    yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degraded

    almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
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  • I guess it’s about time the nationalists and Republicans took a good hard look at themselves and wonder why they were spanked in the popular vote and lost the electoral college too.


    Isn’t that how it works? Or only when populists get elected?

    They really should be worried about places like Detroit, where it was 94% Biden.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Read something about black women voting for biden somewhere in the 90s too
  • Like clockwork.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Was the wall ever built?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Unfortunate for BoJo too.

    Dems and Biden did NOT like his internal market bill one bit.
  • I think they are waiting for fox to call it. Nevada and Pennsylvania are both done deals.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    Unfortunate for BoJo too.

    Dems and Biden did NOT like his internal market bill one bit.

    Probably a good thing in the long run.

    We seemed to think we were going to get some favourable deal.
    Trump may be an idiot but he had us in his sights as easy pickings. Desperate for a deal and willing to take anything to stick fingers up at the Eu.

    Maybe time for us to enact plan B. I’m sure our government of talented individuals have many options in the pipeline.
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    sungod said:

    morstar said:

    I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
    I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
    Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.

    yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degraded

    almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
    I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    sungod said:

    morstar said:

    I get the impression the BBC has very few bodies on the ground or in the office. Web content is very slow to update and lots of articles move about getting re-titled.
    I suspect the talent would understandably leave when it was clear the organisation is being run down.
    Government intervention is definitely taking its toll. Having previously worked for an organisation that found itself struggling, I can assure you the talent disappears rapidly.

    yep, over many years bbc news gathering and analysis has been severely degraded

    almost ten years since the effective elimination of the already severely squeezed world service, for the uk, a loss of intelligence, influence and relevance, the same fate awaits the bbc overall
    I don't know, I think they have just boxed themselves into a corner with their whole not being seen to favour either side thing that they can hardly say anything.
    But if all the senior and talented staff have been decimated, you’re left with less experienced people who don’t have the authority to report with more conviction.

    We have the toothless national broadcaster the tories seek. Much as this isn’t domestic reporting, the MO is to be bland and non-committal.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    edited November 2020
    This is a pretty good summary of where we are.

    Trump behind and not converting votes at the required run rate

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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Mr Texan hasn't been posting for a while. It's 2.30pm in Austin, Tx. I wonder if he clocked offshift in Nizhny Novgorod a few hours ago?