B E N D E R's non sweary review site, roubaixcycling.cc (and general kit discussion)

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

This isn't the value thread that's £11 mind. Par for the course pretty much. I'd not buy one unless there was postage but I guess that's the point. People will buy some bibs, chuck in the bidons, get them postage free. As it were.

£1.99 @ Wiggle.

[Pedantic mode on]

Surely there is an intrinsic link between value and performance. If something is cheap and works perfectly well or there is an alternative to a pair of bibs at £120 for £80, then we need to make the comparison to make the review. A review is only as good as an alternative to compare it to. Value in cycling terms is mainly down to performance. Expensive doesn't guarantee performance or quality.

[Pedantic mode off]

bendertherobot

I think you maybe missing the point of the original post some context. But if you want to see this as kicking off

daniel_b

But Camelbak podium bottles with their special valve are SUPERB, and well worth the money - usually around £8 a pop, though the other year I picked up a raft of them for £4 each for friends and family too.

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

I think you maybe missing the point of the original post some context. But if you want to see this as kicking off

Just stating my point of view.

I read the OP and I have not seen anything specific in it apart from the fact it was limited to a couple of items. This thread has spilled over into many other things and as the purveyor of such a thread, wouldn't you want it to be more general and all consuming?

bendertherobot

Pinno wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I think you maybe missing the point of the original post some context. But if you want to see this as kicking off

Just stating my point of view.

I read the OP and I have not seen anything specific in it apart from the fact it was limited to a couple of items. This thread has spilled over into many other things and as the purveyor of such a thread. wouldn't you want it to be more general and all consuming?

Daniel wouldn't buy redwhite apparel because it's red, I posted the bidon because redwhite are making a yellow item for Daniel. Nothing to do with any reviewing, just a call to Daniel's yellowness.

General and more consuming? Carry on!

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

Pinno wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

I think you maybe missing the point of the original post some context. But if you want to see this as kicking off

Just stating my point of view.

I read the OP and I have not seen anything specific in it apart from the fact it was limited to a couple of items. This thread has spilled over into many other things and as the purveyor of such a thread. wouldn't you want it to be more general and all consuming?

Daniel wouldn't buy redwhite apparel because it's red, I posted the bidon because redwhite are making a yellow item for Daniel. Nothing to do with any reviewing, just a call to Daniel's yellowness.

General and more consuming? Carry on!

Oh come on Bender...

bendertherobot wrote:

Got some 6omm carbon clinchers from Bax Carbon on the way. Should be interesting to tell my beginners guide to TT story. Only 100g heavier than my 35mm Quattro so will be fun to see how much faster they are and how much slower they are, if at all, on hills.

bendertherobot

You asked wouldn't you want it to be more general and all consuming. I replied carry on, as in carry on, make it so, please do, happy to. What am I missing?

bendertherobot

Daniel B wrote:

But Camelbak podium bottles with their special valve are SUPERB, and well worth the money - usually around £8 a pop, though the other year I picked up a raft of them for £4 each for friends and family too.

I bought a load of the Rapha ones from the outlet when passing, also £4 because of that valve.

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

You asked wouldn't you want it to be more general and all consuming. I replied carry on, as in carry on, make it so, please do, happy to. What am I missing?

Fair enough. I thought I detected a hint of protectionism/sarcasm and i'll give you the benefit of the doubt

Then change the title of your thread. I think, in all honesty, we need a thread like this for all things cycling (if that's possible) because the reviews on the home page are often after short term use and I dare say, sponsored by those marketing the products. Sometimes, they have never been used by anyone. There are other factors too but going in to them would be pointless.

bendertherobot

Nope, none intended whatsoever. Not my style. Not on this thread anyway

I'm not sure why I need to change the title mind. It's about my blog but generates a wider discussion of wider things. I'm not precious about the title but surely it's just as easy, if a "let's review kit thread" is needed that one is started?

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

Nope, none intended whatsoever. Not my style. Not on this thread anyway

I'm not sure why I need to change the title mind. It's about my blog but generates a wider discussion of wider things. I'm not precious about the title but surely it's just as easy, if a "let's review kit thread" is needed that one is started?

With this thread and your blog, you're in the thick of it and best placed to move it up a level.

bendertherobot

What level?

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

What level?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, HELP.

An all consuming review thread. :roll:

We're going around in circles...oh hang on.

darkhairedlord

42.

bendertherobot

Pinno wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

What level?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, HELP.

An all consuming review thread. :roll:

We're going around in circles...oh hang on.

With whose reviews?

bendertherobot

How does "Bender's review site and the general review of cycling kit" sound?

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

Pinno wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

What level?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, HELP.

An all consuming review thread. :roll:

We're going around in circles...oh hang on.

With whose reviews?

I'll take the fifth and refer you to the Darkhairedlord's response.

bendertherobot

Are you leaving me now?

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

How does "Bender's review site and the general review of cycling kit" sound?

Aha, i'm getting somewhere.

I was going to suggest - 'Benders'. You see? It has impact but i'll go with the above omitting 'the'.

I accept Paypal payments and Wiggle vouchers.

pinno

bendertherobot wrote:

Are you leaving me now?

You've no such luck.

bendertherobot

Someone needs a lesson in love

bobmcstuff

Pinno wrote:

Oh come on Bender...

bendertherobot wrote:

Got some 6omm carbon clinchers from Bax Carbon on the way. Should be interesting to tell my beginners guide to TT story. Only 100g heavier than my 35mm Quattro so will be fun to see how much faster they are and how much slower they are, if at all, on hills.

What thread's that from? If 100g makes you measurably slower up a hill then it's all in your head...

bendertherobot

This one. They didn't. That was rather the point!

bobmcstuff

Did they make any noticeable difference on the flat?

bobmcstuff

Sorry I've not followed all 40 pages of this thread...

pinno

Down Bob down, easy boy...sit.

daniel_b

bendertherobot wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

But Camelbak podium bottles with their special valve are SUPERB, and well worth the money - usually around £8 a pop, though the other year I picked up a raft of them for £4 each for friends and family too.

I bought a load of the Rapha ones from the outlet when passing, also £4 because of that valve.

I desperately wanted some of the Chartreuse ones, but the B&%$tewards don't make them any more :evil: :evil: :evil:


WHY

bendertherobot

Daniel B wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

But Camelbak podium bottles with their special valve are SUPERB, and well worth the money - usually around £8 a pop, though the other year I picked up a raft of them for £4 each for friends and family too.

I bought a load of the Rapha ones from the outlet when passing, also £4 because of that valve.

I desperately wanted some of the Chartreuse ones, but the B&%$tewards don't make them any more :evil: :evil: :evil:


WHY

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162154320532

daniel_b

True enough, a lot of cash though for a water bottle :shock:

I have seen people selling them for £40 a pop.
It baffles me why they stopped producing just that one colour.

dazz_ni45

dazz_ni45 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

dazz_ni45 wrote:

bendertherobot wrote:

Pretty normal. I'm a large and am a large in Assos etc.

You and I size up quite similar and I'm a large in assos so maybe the large will be fine....

Large now ordered so fingers crossed they fit!

they come yet?

No hopefully, today. They were posted Monday

They arrived yesterday. Haven't tried them on the bike yet, but the fit seems really good and medium would probably have been too small. Best feature seems to be the leg grippers, they definitely grip!

The care instructions says to steep them overnight in cold water. Any idea why?!