Are sky clean or not?
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On the subject of VO2 max tests isn't there some young Norwegian cyclist that has the all time record for any person - not far off a 100 whatever it is per kg - be interesting to see how his career goes. Plus why are the VO2 max records dominated by Norwegians - if you want your kids to be pro cyclists maybe find yourself a Norwegian wife/husband.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0
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Oscar Svendsen - currently 21, came 5th in the Tour de l'Avenir last year.On the subject of VO2 max tests isn't there some young Norwegian cyclist that has the all time record for any person - not far off a 100 whatever it is per kg - be interesting to see how his career goes. Plus why are the VO2 max records dominated by Norwegians - if you want your kids to be pro cyclists maybe find yourself a Norwegian wife/husband.
I think a lot of the high tests are Norwegian because they measure it and talk about it the most.Twitter: @RichN950 -
On the subject of VO2 max tests isn't there some young Norwegian cyclist that has the all time record for any person - not far off a 100 whatever it is per kg - be interesting to see how his career goes. Plus why are the VO2 max records dominated by Norwegians - if you want your kids to be pro cyclists maybe find yourself a Norwegian wife/husband.
This tw@t made a post about it.
http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=129004130 -
The irony of Jalabert, Rasmussen casting suspicion on Froome, Sky and the likes of Virenque hailed as a celebrity in France.0
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We need to hear more voices like this.
@jeremycwhittle: Parked up in Bourg. Old French feller sees the car's British plates, and says, voice cracking; "I'm so sorry for the treatment of Froome.0 -
We need to hear more voices like this.
@jeremycwhittle: Parked up in Bourg. Old French feller sees the car's British plates, and says, voice cracking; "I'm so sorry for the treatment of Froome.
That's heartbreaking isn't itNapoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Kimmage particularly irks me in this case. Froome interacted with him, was transparent and open, in a world where most people won't get near Kimmage with a barge pole. And Kimmage continues to say things, Froome corrects him and he acts all reasonable and then carries on playing to his audience.
He's obviously painted himself into a corner where he can't admit he might be wrong.
Kimmage made a telling comment around the time of the disappearance of the Kimmage defence fund, something along the lines of "I had hoped to be able to make a living out of cycling, but I guess that won't happen"
everything he says now just strikes me as a desparate attempt to remain relevant0 -
We need to hear more voices like this.
@jeremycwhittle: Parked up in Bourg. Old French feller sees the car's British plates, and says, voice cracking; "I'm so sorry for the treatment of Froome.
That's heartbreaking isn't it
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We need to hear more voices like this.
@jeremycwhittle: Parked up in Bourg. Old French feller sees the car's British plates, and says, voice cracking; "I'm so sorry for the treatment of Froome.
That's heartbreaking isn't it
It is, but very heartening all at the same time.It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
Wikipedia says he quit cycling to study psychology, so perhaps that’s the end of him.On the subject of VO2 max tests isn't there some young Norwegian cyclist that has the all time record for any person - not far off a 100 whatever it is per kg - be interesting to see how his career goes.
Clearly it takes more than a high VO2 max to be a good cyclist. Anyway, a lot of the high numbers are from the EPO era, when Nordic countries were full of doped skiers.
I always knew they did horrible things in the Faculty of Humanities...Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
I always knew they did horrible things in the Faculty of Humanities...
The Chamber of Sockets....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Kimmage particularly irks me in this case. Froome interacted with him, was transparent and open, in a world where most people won't get near Kimmage with a barge pole. And Kimmage continues to say things, Froome corrects him and he acts all reasonable and then carries on playing to his audience.
He's obviously painted himself into a corner where he can't admit he might be wrong.
Kimmage made a telling comment around the time of the disappearance of the Kimmage defence fund, something along the lines of "I had hoped to be able to make a living out of cycling, but I guess that won't happen"
everything he says now just strikes me as a desparate attempt to remain relevant
Kimmage can't stand that he's not Walsh and Digger can't stand that he's not Kimmage.0 -
More information about French TV experts' claim that Froome's estimated peak power output of 7.04 w/kg was abnormal, by comparison Thibaut Pinot's PPO, as measured and disclosed in his brother's thesis, is 7.3 W/kg
Do we know over what period of time he can sustain that?Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Five minutes is the measure for PPO apparently. Pinot's was actually his five minute score.More information about French TV experts' claim that Froome's estimated peak power output of 7.04 w/kg was abnormal, by comparison Thibaut Pinot's PPO, as measured and disclosed in his brother's thesis, is 7.3 W/kg
Do we know over what period of time he can sustain that?Twitter: @RichN950 -
Just for context:
These charts are often used for power output based on rider category (created by Andrew Coggan for Trainingpeaks).
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Wikipedia says he quit cycling to study psychology, so perhaps that’s the end of him.On the subject of VO2 max tests isn't there some young Norwegian cyclist that has the all time record for any person - not far off a 100 whatever it is per kg - be interesting to see how his career goes.
Clearly it takes more than a high VO2 max to be a good cyclist. Anyway, a lot of the high numbers are from the EPO era, when Nordic countries were full of doped skiers.
I always knew they did horrible things in the Faculty of Humanities...
How very dare you. Psychology is a social science... :shock:
Correlation is not causation.0 -
Five minutes is the measure for PPO apparently. Pinot's was actually his five minute score.More information about French TV experts' claim that Froome's estimated peak power output of 7.04 w/kg was abnormal, by comparison Thibaut Pinot's PPO, as measured and disclosed in his brother's thesis, is 7.3 W/kg
Do we know over what period of time he can sustain that?
So looking at the chart above both fall within the world class scale.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
I calculated my Watts per kg yesterday and came up with a figure of 8.6...0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19657662#p19657662]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:I calculated my Watts per kg yesterday and came up with a figure of 8.6...
If that's at threshold, then I look forward to seeing you next year in the tour 0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19657662#p19657662]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:I calculated my Watts per kg yesterday and came up with a figure of 8.6...
I calculated mine and came up with 2200 and then realised that I was in fact testing the electrics.Correlation is not causation.0 -
my hoover weighs 6kg and can do 1600w forever (well, until the bag is full).0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19657662#p19657662]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:I calculated my Watts per kg yesterday and came up with a figure of 8.6...
If that's at threshold, then I look forward to seeing you next year in the tour
Should be able to store up a good few gallons of liquid to throw at the obvious doper by then 0 -
I didn't know Mr. Pallet, thanks. The sad thing is this kind of stuff isn't tucked away in some corner of an internet forum for cycling fans, as it largely is in the English-speaking wordl, but in France it's part of prime time mainstream television. And it will continue until we have a French Tour de France winner
Now to Pallet himself. ...0 -
They'll probably have moved on to tarring and feathering by then[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19657662#p19657662]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:I calculated my Watts per kg yesterday and came up with a figure of 8.6...
If that's at threshold, then I look forward to seeing you next year in the tour
Should be able to store up a good few gallons of liquid to throw at the obvious doper by then0 -
Apologies if this has been raised elsewhere but has anyone questioned Sagan's performances? He was in two day long breaks over tough terrain and still managed to contest a sprint finish. Add to that the French double standards of insinuation and innuendo over Froome and Sky's performances, which amounts to one very good day, where they are happy to use the words of a rider who went from bunch sprint and green jersey winner to KoM and top 10 GC rider and who fails to admit doping despite retrospective testing finding EPO in his samples. Rather than throw p*ss in his face though they named a climb after him :roll:0
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His name is Sallet, not Pallet. Autocorrect seems to have beaten me on that one.
I didn't know Mr. Pallet, thanks. The sad thing is this kind of stuff isn't tucked away in some corner of an internet forum for cycling fans, as it largely is in the English-speaking wordl, but in France it's part of prime time mainstream television. And it will continue until we have a French Tour de France winner
Now to Pallet himself. ...
But I'm always suspicious of scientists who are frequently in the media and always offer opinions as much as facts.Twitter: @RichN950 -
The difference between riders like Thomas, and French prodigy JC(L) Peraud, is that Peraud has always been a climber since his emergence as a roadie... at the age of 30....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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32 actually. But he'd been a prodigiously talented mountain biker before that.The difference between riders like Thomas, and French prodigy JC(L) Peraud, is that Peraud has always been a climber since his emergence as a roadie... at the age of 30.
The fact that people are turning this into a nationalistic battle is pathetic by the way.0 -
Sagan isn't on Sky, so he might as well be invisible as far as doping allegations go.Apologies if this has been raised elsewhere but has anyone questioned Sagan's performances? He was in two day long breaks over tough terrain and still managed to contest a sprint finish. Add to that the French double standards of insinuation and innuendo over Froome and Sky's performances, which amounts to one very good day, where they are happy to use the words of a rider who went from bunch sprint and green jersey winner to KoM and top 10 GC rider and who fails to admit doping despite retrospective testing finding EPO in his samples. Rather than throw p*ss in his face though they named a climb after him :roll:0
