Are sky clean or not?
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He also has no shoulders:
Very chunky arms in this photo:
Good indication of his arms here and this is only 2013:
Some Barloworld perspective:
Shuffle days:
Day out on the Islands:
Blue train makeup is unrecognizable compared to last time:
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cant say understand the data to be honest, all I know is Froome seems to have riden round the course quicker than the others.
Even with the data out there i'm sure that still wont satisfy some.
According the the clinic, it's all total lies. Froome isn't 67kg. 5.78w/kg is a lie. Oval chain rings don't give 6% error.
Seen on there that Vayers opinion on it was 'big laugh'.
Seriously Sky should release nothing, there is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They compare actual data released by a team to their own calculations and say the actual data is wrong... :roll:0 -
He also has no shoulders:
Very chunky arms in this photo:
Good indication of his arms here and this is only 2013:
Are you serious with that picture? It's an altered photo.0 -
cant say understand the data to be honest,
Congratulations this is all you need to set up a "science blog", make up your mind on the subject and write lots pointing at some of the data to back up your set opinions and tweet incessantly (ensuring you @ all the other people with a similar agenda). Before you know it you will be an expert and everyone will be talking about you; riders, teams, journalists and ex pro's.
However you haven't got long, despite the season being over 10 months long your window is three weeks during one race around France, so you have less than a week left, before you will be ignored until next year when you can repeat the same process.
That's what it is. People want to be lied to. Amazingly common in politics, grocery marketing etc. Some respected posters thought this zoomer was a naive scientist, just fallen in with a bad lot last year. There's no way back for these people, and few successors. That's the good news.Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport Jul 18
It'll be a long time before I work in SA sport again because of Pistorius & Semenya. And I doubt I'll get into cycling any time soon.
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People don't realize that taking a skeptical position is probably career-limiting. People love agreement, not dissent...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
How does private boarding school help you to become a pro cyclist...?From lack of opportunity
Private boarding school?
Early mornings, spartan regimes, small portions, frequent physical pain....the list goes on...Head Hands Heart Lungs Legs0 -
Froome's got more meat on him than Barguil. History suggests it's the riders who slim down over time - not bulk up - that win Tours.0 -
Power?0
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He also has no shoulders:
That's nothing compared to Tony Martin.0 -
Oh that's classicRoss Tucker @Scienceofsport Jul 18
People don't realize that taking a skeptical position is probably career-limiting. People love agreement, not dissent
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Trying to get some data out of Contador.0 -
Trying to get some data out of Contador.
Worth noting bigger fore arms than upper arms, and lack of shoulders.0 -
Heavyweight fans....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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Trying to get some data out of Contador.
Worth noting bigger fore arms than upper arms, and lack of shoulders.
Contador, he don't want no scrubs.....Head Hands Heart Lungs Legs0 -
Froome is not happy:
To be likened to the three dwarfs:
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He has to answer the difficult questions, that's what comes with the privilege of wearing Yellow.0
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Trying to get some data out of Contador.
Worth noting bigger fore arms than upper arms, and lack of shoulders.
Contador, he don't want no scrubs.....
"No, I don't want your numbers and no, I don't want to give you mine......"Head Hands Heart Lungs Legs0 -
While we’re on the topic of Contador does anyone remember when he won a pan flat 9 km prologue in Paris-Nice a few years ago against the like of TT heavyweights Wiggins, Martin (Tony no less) and Millar?!
These days he (and Froome) lose 50-58 seconds to the likes of Martin in 13 km pan flat TTs!Mañana0 -
Ah, I get it. Find a picture of Froome looking glum and post under 'are SKY clean' and not under 'rest day' because looking glum = doping.
It's pretty childish to say a rider you dislike is going to get whooped by a ride you love (I chose my words carefully) and when it doesn't happen you just accuse them of doping. Plus the guy you love is a doper!
Pity we don't have a panache award for forumers.0 -
While we’re on the topic of Contador does anyone remember when he won a pan flat 9 km prologue in Paris-Nice a few years ago against the like of TT heavyweights Wiggins, Martin (Tony no less) and Millar?!
These days he (and Froome) lose 50-58 seconds to the likes of Martin in 13 km pan flat TTs!
There was a tweet kicking about a little while ago asking about about Alberto's lost TT minutes, showing how much TT speed he had lost since 2011.0 -
inseine, would you mind stop picking on my every post? You are starting to sound like a whining brat.
For the record, I am not the one calling Froome out as a doper. I just think he is ridiculous, lowers my enjoyment and is taking something for weight loss (which is not really proper doping in my eyes).Contador is the Greatest0 -
While we’re on the topic of Contador does anyone remember when he won a pan flat 9 km prologue in Paris-Nice a few years ago against the like of TT heavyweights Wiggins, Martin (Tony no less) and Millar?!
These days he (and Froome) lose 50-58 seconds to the likes of Martin in 13 km pan flat TTs!
Ah yes, the one where Wiggins was riding into a headwind caused by the helicopter.stefrees wrote:afx237vi wrote:Why would Contador dope for Paris-Nice? Doesn't make sense.
no it doesn't. i dont want him to test positive as i actually like the guy. but this result just feels, well, ive felt this way before and its not a nice feeling
Contador has always been excellent in against the watch, After the ASO exclusion of last year he will want to send a message, which this victory would have.
His form is good and this is his second TT win of the year so its not that surprising.
Lance did his usual:
https://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/1298544252Contador is the Greatest0 -
Would you mind stop picking on my every post? You are starting to sound like a whining brat.
For the record, I am not the one calling Froome out as a doper. I just think he is ridiculous, lowers my enjoyment and is taking something for weight loss (which is not really proper doping in my eyes).
How about stop spoiling the formum by whinging about SKY (or English speaking riders etc) in nearly all of your posts?
You're starting to sound like someone who doesn't even like cycling.0 -
I'm not spoiling the forum. This place would not be particularly interesting if I stopped posting. What are you adding that entices me to come here?Contador is the Greatest0
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cant say understand the data to be honest, all I know is Froome seems to have riden round the course quicker than the others.
Even with the data out there i'm sure that still wont satisfy some.
According the the clinic, it's all total lies. Froome isn't 67kg. 5.78w/kg is a lie. Oval chain rings don't give 6% error.
Seen on there that Vayers opinion on it was 'big laugh'.
Seriously Sky should release nothing, there is absolutely no reasoning with these people. They compare actual data released by a team to their own calculations and say the actual data is wrong... :roll:
I agree. Enough is enough now. If I was SDB I'd start the next presser with a announcement that doping questions are not welcome, will not be answered and if that is all people are there for then they should all go home and let the riders go off and rest, they've done as much as they can and it's pointless doing more. Simple as, if people have a problem, fine. Astana did virtually that last year and they are massively less credible than Sky.
It's desperately sad that they are subjected to this every year while others don't seem to suffer as badly. The peloton seems to have no issue with them and consider the treatment unfair too. There is no smoke without fire is the saying. but here there is clearly no smoke. It's just a case of people being burnt by the Texan, not wanting to get burnt again and wanting to be the guy who can Tweet "told you so" in years to come. Sad and desperate souls. They'd prefer to be wrong now so to avoid the chance of being wrong in the future, knowing full well it's impossible for Sky to prove they are clean.
There is no statement they can make, no data they can release, that would sway the haters. They need to just ignore them now. Like you would a tantrum throwing toddler, walk away and ignore them
So to the OPs question are Sky clean? Of course they are, and to say anything else is just being stupid.2020 Reilly Spectre - raw titanium
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While we’re on the topic of Contador does anyone remember when he won a pan flat 9 km prologue in Paris-Nice a few years ago against the like of TT heavyweights Wiggins, Martin (Tony no less) and Millar?!
These days he (and Froome) lose 50-58 seconds to the likes of Martin in 13 km pan flat TTs!
Ah yes, the one where Wiggins was riding into a headwind caused by the helicopter.stefrees wrote:afx237vi wrote:Why would Contador dope for Paris-Nice? Doesn't make sense.
no it doesn't. i dont want him to test positive as i actually like the guy. but this result just feels, well, ive felt this way before and its not a nice feeling
Contador has always been excellent in against the watch, After the ASO exclusion of last year he will want to send a message, which this victory would have.
His form is good and this is his second TT win of the year so its not that surprising.
Lance did his usual:
https://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/1298544252
Brilliant, good work! Mañana0 -
How about a photo? Now cheer up.I'm not spoiling the forum. This place would not be particularly interesting if I stopped posting. What are you adding that entices me to come here?
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This place would not be particularly interesting if I stopped posting.
Haha, amazing.0 -
How about a photo? Now cheer up.I'm not spoiling the forum. This place would not be particularly interesting if I stopped posting. What are you adding that entices me to come here?
Battered and bruised but I'll give you a pat.
ps. he lost the yellow jersey later in the raceContador is the Greatest0 -
I'm not spoiling the forum. This place would not be particularly interesting if I stopped posting. What are you adding that entices me to come here?
There would be a lot more mature, rather than snipping posts if you stopped. Bar a few other loons it is generally you that bring this forum down.
Unfortunately the spoilt brat posting style you use does not balance some great photos you share. Those I would miss0 -
Ah, I get it. Find a picture of Froome looking glum and post under 'are SKY clean' and not under 'rest day' because looking glum = doping.
It's pretty childish to say a rider you dislike is going to get whooped by a ride you love (I chose my words carefully) and when it doesn't happen you just accuse them of doping. Plus the guy you love is a doper!
Pity we don't have a panache award for forumers.
And seeing as the background is 'Grand Depart Yorkshire' the photos aren't even from this year.0
