TdF 2015 Stage 10 Tarbes to Pierre-Saint-Martin **SPOILERS**
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In 2003, when they got to the top they still had another 130km, including another climb of similar size. Hamilton rode it at about the same speed Quintana did, then rode most of those 130km solo. He did the other major climb at a similar pace.Froome's average speed up that mountain was faster than the times set by:
Hamilton, 2003 Millar, Virenque, Riis, Ullrich, Rominger, Indurain, Piepoli, Salvodelli, Chiappucci, Boogerd
Illustrious list.
But this is context and should be ignored if it doesn't suit your agenda.
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The times are from several climbs. 2003 next to Millar so we know it was the doped Millar.Contador is the Greatest0
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Tell what is much more criminal - not ranking Col de Bagarguy HC.
Absolutely destroyed me that did.0 -
Nah, everyone on twitter knows that every climb is ridden at maximum pace, otherwise you might miss out on some Strava KOMs.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0
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What a ride from Gesink! Early solo attack, eventually reeled in by the leaders but still held on to 4th place, well ahead of some big contenders. While the Sky dominance did look ridiculous, that performance just shows how sub par many of the riders were today....0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19651493#p19651493]Blazing Saddles[/url] wrote:Mmmm, Well, at least the test and golf starts on Thursday.
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G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.Contador is the Greatest0
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The howls of outrage would be deafening... if Vayer hadn't released the Ventoux Files last night. It must be a false flag operation.
Ever since Evans won in 2011, the reigning Tour champ has had a stinker the following year. GTs are too hard....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
The times are from several climbs. 2003 next to Millar so we know it was the doped Millar.
Ah, so you're just taking many years with no context rather than just the one.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Froome beats Pantani's time by over 2 minutes.
What was the stage like that Pantani's time was taken from?
- What was the stage length?
- What other climbs were there?
- How attacking was the racing leading up to the climb?
- At what point in the race did it come?
- What was the weather like?
Context, or it's all bullshit
I suppose you could put it another way:
'Out of sorts Quintana still beats Pantani's time'. But that doesn't sound so dramatic and damning does it!
Quintana wasn't out of sorts, he is still yet to prove that he is the very best. He may well become the very best but he hasn't done it yet.
Contador is clearly not recovered, Nibali is shockingly poor.
In context Gallopin, not a renowned climber managed to stay in there, Valverde, Gesink, G and Porte too.
I wonder whether we have seen the impact of the threat of nighttime testing today.0 -
@DavidWalshST 1h1 hour ago
One question to organisers of TdF: if it's suspense you wanted why put hardest single climb of Tour into first mountain stage?Contador is the Greatest0 -
In 2003, when they got to the top they still had another 130km, including another climb of similar size. Hamilton rode it at about the same speed Quintana did, then rode most of those 130km solo. He did the other major climb at a similar pace.Froome's average speed up that mountain was faster than the times set by:
Hamilton, 2003 Millar, Virenque, Riis, Ullrich, Rominger, Indurain, Piepoli, Salvodelli, Chiappucci, Boogerd
Illustrious list.
But this is context and should be ignored if it doesn't suit your agenda.
Incredible.
What Twitter-wankr started this?0 -
And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.0 -
Well I'm amazed how poor Contador was today, but shocked at how little Nibali seemed to be trying. When he was holding back Fuglsang and Scarponi he was hardly blowing and you could see their frustration. For Fuglsang to say what he said about Nibali at the end is damning stuff. Vino will be spitting mad, I would think...0
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The amount of blocked posters is telling. TT among them. Not wasting my time reading any of their BS.Contador is the Greatest0
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And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.
G's one of my men fyi.Contador is the Greatest0 -
The amount of blocked posters is telling. TT among them. Not wasting my time reading any of their BS.
Bless.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
And...?
And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.
Valverde didn't win too many track gold medals though0 -
Contador is the Greatest0
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You have too many men FF, is there a website or something where we can check?
And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.
G's one of my men fyi.
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Well I'm amazed how poor Contador was today, but shocked at how little Nibali seemed to be trying. When he was holding back Fuglsang and Scarponi he was hardly blowing and you could see their frustration. For Fuglsang to say what he said about Nibali at the end is damning stuff. Vino will be spitting mad, I would think...
Nibali. Sad to see.
I said I didn't think Contador was in great form in the Giro. Landa convincingly out climbed him over the 3 weeks, and would have won it had Astana committed to him. Today Contador was out climbed by the the likes of Yates, Gallopin, and Geraint Thomas. Maybe he has a really high peak coming at some point.0 -
You have too many men FF, is there a website or something where we can check?
And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.
G's one of my men fyi.
So RAGEFACE for Froome
COMEFACE for ThomasNapoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
In 1996 (the Pantani time) it was 150 km from the finish of a 262km stage.The times are from several climbs. 2003 next to Millar so we know it was the doped Millar.
In 2006 it was only 90km from the finish
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In 1996 (the Pantani time) it was 150 km from the finish of a 262km stage.The times are from several climbs. 2003 next to Millar so we know it was the doped Millar.
In 2006 it was only 90km from the finish
Damn you and your context.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
... it's not like he won his gold medals 2 weeks ago though, is it? Have you missed his performances in GTs over the last couple of years?
And...?
And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.
Valverde didn't win too many track gold medals though
and... track riders usually make great climbers, just saying.0 -
You have too many men FF, is there a website or something where we can check?
There's a thread.0 -
And...?
And he coincidentally happened to finish with Valverde, who's won even more classics and is also pretty good at riding up mountains...G going from winning Classics to riding up a mountain without breaking a sweat. Pretty complete rider.
Valverde didn't win too many track gold medals though
and... track riders usually make great climbers, just saying.
That's a bit like comparing Bolt with Farah. Both run on the track. That's the only similarity.
If Hoy was riding like this you'd have a point. Pursuit riders have the engines to climb once the track weight is off.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
F*cking hell FF!. Also I don't see Thomas on that list... oh wait he is there! Fair enough.You have too many men FF, is there a website or something where we can check?
There's a thread.0 -
They also keep putting Sky friendly 'hockey stick' stages as the first mountain stage. Froome has won three of the last four. A multi col stage ending on a descent might be a better start.@DavidWalshST 1h1 hour ago
One question to organisers of TdF: if it's suspense you wanted why put hardest single climb of Tour into first mountain stage?Twitter: @RichN950 -
F*cking hell FF!. Also I don't see Thomas on that list...You have too many men FF, is there a website or something where we can check?
There's a thread.
Under Geraint.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
