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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Maybe Stevo's alter ego is Owen Jones, who's still fighting for the purist Corbyn clan of unelectable socialists, and denigrating Starmer, so Johnson can carry on when non-pure Labour lose the next election....

    I probably should be offended by that comparison. However I don’t think that I'm the closest thing to Owen Jones this forum has to offer :smile:

    I didn't expect you to own up to it ;)
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    Johnson should have boxed himself into a corner by going on telly all the time and saying how important it was to obey the laws then breaking them.

    The shield against the charge of hypocrisy that he wields that Starmer does not have is that he has no shame. Or morals.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    Johnson should have boxed himself into a corner by going on telly all the time and saying how important it was to obey the laws then breaking them.

    The shield against the charge of hypocrisy that he wields that Starmer does not have is that he has no shame. Or morals.
    There's another thread for that. This is the leftie bashing thread - stay on topic :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    ddraver said:

    No one on the forum is close to Owen Jones...

    Oh I dunno...when you you read the sanctimonious right-on bollox he writes...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    Johnson should have boxed himself into a corner by going on telly all the time and saying how important it was to obey the laws then breaking them.

    The shield against the charge of hypocrisy that he wields that Starmer does not have is that he has no shame. Or morals.
    There's another thread for that. This is the leftie bashing thread - stay on topic :smile:
    I understand the wish to have your safe space, but that's woke talk really.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    Stevo_666 said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    Johnson should have boxed himself into a corner by going on telly all the time and saying how important it was to obey the laws then breaking them.

    The shield against the charge of hypocrisy that he wields that Starmer does not have is that he has no shame. Or morals.
    There's another thread for that. This is the leftie bashing thread - stay on topic :smile:

    @pinno wants a word...
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,090
    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    _
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,638
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    He's only Shirley at the weekends.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    briantrumpet said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
    See my post about what Rees-Mogg said. Starmer has put himself in this situation where he will have to fall on his sword if he gets a £30 fine. Bit naive really. Christ, I've been fined more for straying into a bus lane.

    Wonder if Angela 'Basic Instinct' Rayner will see her chance now?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    edited May 2022
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
    See my post about what Rees-Mogg said. Starmer has put himself in this situation where he will have to fall on his sword if he gets a £30 fine. Bit naive really. Christ, I've been fined more for straying into a bus lane.

    Wonder if Angela 'Basic Instinct' Rayner will see her chance now?

    You really do have the most extraordinary perspective.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    Seems vaguely appropriate...
    https://youtu.be/bi2_2ogPMvo
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
    See my post about what Rees-Mogg said. Starmer has put himself in this situation where he will have to fall on his sword if he gets a £30 fine. Bit naive really. Christ, I've been fined more for straying into a bus lane.

    Wonder if Angela 'Basic Instinct' Rayner will see her chance now?

    You really do have the most extraordinary perspective.
    Why?

    Anyway, I'm just enjoying watching a self righteous leftie hypocrite being hoisted by his own petard :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
    See my post about what Rees-Mogg said. Starmer has put himself in this situation where he will have to fall on his sword if he gets a £30 fine. Bit naive really. Christ, I've been fined more for straying into a bus lane.

    Wonder if Angela 'Basic Instinct' Rayner will see her chance now?

    You really do have the most extraordinary perspective.
    Why?

    Anyway, I'm just enjoying watching a self righteous leftie hypocrite being hoisted by his own petard :smile:

    The lenses in your glasses which don't allow you to see anything other than leftiebollox hypocrisy everywhere, or to see anything untoward with the proven liar and lawbreaker Johnson. It really is most odd.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,625
    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
    See my post about what Rees-Mogg said. Starmer has put himself in this situation where he will have to fall on his sword if he gets a £30 fine. Bit naive really. Christ, I've been fined more for straying into a bus lane.

    Wonder if Angela 'Basic Instinct' Rayner will see her chance now?

    You really do have the most extraordinary perspective.
    Why?

    Anyway, I'm just enjoying watching a self righteous leftie hypocrite being hoisted by his own petard :smile:

    The lenses in your glasses which don't allow you to see anything other than leftiebollox hypocrisy everywhere, or to see anything untoward with the proven liar and lawbreaker Johnson. It really is most odd.
    Simple really, threat it like football.

    1. My team good, your team bad. Regardless of evidence to the contrary. No nuance.
    2. Wind up the opposition.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited May 2022
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?
    _
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    kingstongraham said:

    If all johnson had done was have a birthday cake in a work meeting, there wouldn't be a problem.

    If you are pretending that's the only thing that happened at number 10, you're not arguing in good faith.

    Reminder.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?

    The invented outrage over Starmer's statement (DT is calling him 'scheming' now) is because they will find some pretext to attack him no matter what: a few days earlier he'd been hounded to say he would resign if he'd broken the law, and now he's being lambasted for saying he would "in order to pressurise Durham Police'.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited May 2022
    Yeah fine, press is going to go after a labour leader.

    I don’t understand how it is self righteous if he quits over it?

    I don’t understand Stevo, why you think the PM *shouldn’t* resign over him breaking the rules he set himself?
    _
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah fine, press is going to go after a labour leader.

    I don’t understand how it is self righteous if he quits over it?

    I don’t understand Stevo, why you think the PM *shouldn’t* resign over him breaking the rules he set himself?

    The position now will be that the rules were so difficult to obey that even Starmer couldn't stay within them. On that basis it's surely not a resigning offence. Because what Starmer did was the exact equivalent of what happened at Downing Street.

    It's nonsense but will be the line.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    rick_chasey said:

    Yeah fine, press is going to go after a labour leader.

    I don’t understand how it is self righteous if he quits over it?

    I don’t understand Stevo, why you think the PM *shouldn’t* resign over him breaking the rules he set himself?

    Wrong thread, as mentioned. This is the leftie bashing thread.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    briantrumpet said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?

    The invented outrage over Starmer's statement (DT is calling him 'scheming' now) is because they will find some pretext to attack him no matter what: a few days earlier he'd been hounded to say he would resign if he'd broken the law, and now he's being lambasted for saying he would "in order to pressurise Durham Police'.
    Of course there was no invented outrage over anything that the tories did or said....
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?
    That's his problem if he does. As mentioned above, he boxed himself into a corner by being sanctimonious.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?

    The invented outrage over Starmer's statement (DT is calling him 'scheming' now) is because they will find some pretext to attack him no matter what: a few days earlier he'd been hounded to say he would resign if he'd broken the law, and now he's being lambasted for saying he would "in order to pressurise Durham Police'.
    Of course there was no invented outrage over anything that the tories did or said....

    Which bit of a Prime Minister breaking the law he enacted and lying to Parliament do you not understand?
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    pblakeney said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    briantrumpet said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    I wonder how many working meals johnson had? In addition to all the parties.

    Also, if it turns out these were rules that not even Mr Self Isolate could work out he was breaking- that doesn't make them great.

    Fairly sure if Johnson had done what Starmer did there would be a lot noise. People were outraged he rode a bike in Stratford.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-celebrated-beer-indoors-26838978

    I'm sure he did, it's just it's not equivalent to what we already know happened in Downing Street.
    It's hard to keep up, but that feels worse, if true, than many of the reported events.

    I'm sure all those Tory MPs will be calling for an investigation, otherwise they might be accused of rightie hypocrisy.
    See my post about what Rees-Mogg said. Starmer has put himself in this situation where he will have to fall on his sword if he gets a £30 fine. Bit naive really. Christ, I've been fined more for straying into a bus lane.

    Wonder if Angela 'Basic Instinct' Rayner will see her chance now?

    You really do have the most extraordinary perspective.
    Why?

    Anyway, I'm just enjoying watching a self righteous leftie hypocrite being hoisted by his own petard :smile:

    The lenses in your glasses which don't allow you to see anything other than leftiebollox hypocrisy everywhere, or to see anything untoward with the proven liar and lawbreaker Johnson. It really is most odd.
    Simple really, threat it like football.

    1. My team good, your team bad. Regardless of evidence to the contrary. No nuance.
    2. Wind up the opposition.
    Opposition? I thought most people on were weren't Labour supporters. Although strangely there seems to be a lot of support for Starmer - maybe Labour sympathisers is a better term?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?
    That's his problem if he does. As mentioned above, he boxed himself into a corner by being sanctimonious.
    So you are of the view it’s sanctimonious to hold rival politicians to account?
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,014
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Thered be a lot of noise if Boris Johnson breathes.

    Anyhow, Starmer really has boxed himself into a corner with this one. Good example of self righteous leftiebollox backfiring.

    I don’t understand this argument.

    Why is it acceptable for the PM to not abide by the laws of the land?
    You appear to be replying to a different post to mine. I'm making a different point. Very odd.
    You seem to think it was a bad idea that Starmer held BoJo accountable to the rules BoJo set himself - else how else is it "self righteous leftiebollocks"

    So, by logic, you seem to think Johnson should not have been held accountable for breaking the rules he set himself, right?

    So if you don't think that, then, by logic, you don't think it's necessary the PM abide by the laws of the land, surely?
    No. Starmer looks like he broke the very rules he insisted Boris resign over, that is the point.

    So it's self righteous leftiebollox. Simple really.
    Not if he does step down over it?

    That would literally be the opposite?
    That's his problem if he does. As mentioned above, he boxed himself into a corner by being sanctimonious.
    So you are of the view it’s sanctimonious to hold rival politicians to account?
    Deliberate misinterpretation by you there. I'll 'do a Rick' and tell you to go away and look up the definition of sanctimonious.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,967
    Tories: "Will you resign if you broke the law?"

    Starmer: "Yes".

    Tories: "You're being sanctimonious."
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