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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    Meanwhile, out of the limelight, Len McCluskey is looking at sensible ways of spending his members subs and giving a bit of a favour to a mate of his in the process. :smile:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/04/07/unite-union-facing-calls-inquiry-98m-contract-handed-friend/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

    Quote: "Labour MPs have called for Unite to hold an inquiry into the £98 million cost of a hotel project which saw the main construction contract awarded to a company owned by a friend of Len McCluskey.

    The Unite general secretary is under mounting pressure over the spiralling costs, which are up from a reported £35m six years ago, although Unite says the estimate it was provided before work began stood at £57m.

    The Birmingham project, which is now complete, includes new union offices and a conference centre and was intended to save expenditure on hotel rooms and conference bills.

    But Unite is facing questions over the decision to award the development’s main construction contact to the Liverpool-based Flanagan Group, a firm run by Mr McCluskey’s long-time friend Paul Flanagan.

    A health and safety contract was also awarded to SSC, a company owned by David Anderson, the son of former Liverpool mayor Joe Anderson.

    Both Mr Flanagan and the Andersons were arrested in September on suspicion of conspiracy to commit bribery."
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,670
    Must be nice to find some corruption you're allowed to be concerned about.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    It's possible that his friend just happened to be the only one who could do the job.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    pangolin said:

    Must be nice to find some corruption you're allowed to be concerned about.

    I never expected any whataboutery, hey ho :)

    Defending Big Len then?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    kingstongraham said:

    It's possible that his friend just happened to be the only one who could do the job.

    :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    LM is as adept at cronyism as the best of them. Utter wrong un.

    I hear he's just installed his local pub manager as regional area rep and given him a contract for manufacturing 'Oooooh Jeremy Corbyn' tee-shirts
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,670
    Stevo_666 said:

    pangolin said:

    Must be nice to find some corruption you're allowed to be concerned about.

    I never expected any whataboutery, hey ho :)

    Defending Big Len then?
    Sorry I'm not following
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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    listening to womans hour this morning and an absolute train crash of an interview with Annalise Dodds the shadow chancellor who had nothing but sound bites and for a bright woman sounded completely without grasp.

    Britain needs more people like her in the labour party.

    ended with the line "talking of resignations do you think youll still be shadow chancellor soon"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000twgn
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    Stevo_666 said:

    Meanwhile, out of the limelight, Len McCluskey is looking at sensible ways of spending his members subs and giving a bit of a favour to a mate of his in the process. :smile:
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/04/07/unite-union-facing-calls-inquiry-98m-contract-handed-friend/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget

    Quote: "Labour MPs have called for Unite to hold an inquiry into the £98 million cost of a hotel project which saw the main construction contract awarded to a company owned by a friend of Len McCluskey.

    The Unite general secretary is under mounting pressure over the spiralling costs, which are up from a reported £35m six years ago, although Unite says the estimate it was provided before work began stood at £57m.

    The Birmingham project, which is now complete, includes new union offices and a conference centre and was intended to save expenditure on hotel rooms and conference bills.

    But Unite is facing questions over the decision to award the development’s main construction contact to the Liverpool-based Flanagan Group, a firm run by Mr McCluskey’s long-time friend Paul Flanagan.

    A health and safety contract was also awarded to SSC, a company owned by David Anderson, the son of former Liverpool mayor Joe Anderson.

    Both Mr Flanagan and the Andersons were arrested in September on suspicion of conspiracy to commit bribery."

    they probably didnt have to bribe len. :)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    so Rick do you think Len is alright then? Your kind of person?
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    david37 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    so Rick do you think Len is alright then? Your kind of person?
    Classic deliberate mis-understanding of what's been said.

    Bravo.
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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    elbowloh said:

    david37 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    so Rick do you think Len is alright then? Your kind of person?
    Classic deliberate mis-understanding of what's been said.

    Bravo.
    thanks, I consider it a skill.

    BTW have you listened to Labours Shadow chancellor interview on womans hour today? it was a corker, soundbites and no plan. I enjoyed it. well the bits when she wasnt shouting over the interviewer anyway.

    What total muppets
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    david37 said:

    elbowloh said:

    david37 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    so Rick do you think Len is alright then? Your kind of person?
    Classic deliberate mis-understanding of what's been said.

    Bravo.
    thanks, I consider it a skill.

    BTW have you listened to Labours Shadow chancellor interview on womans hour today? it was a corker, soundbites and no plan. I enjoyed it. well the bits when she wasnt shouting over the interviewer anyway.

    What total muppets
    Labour being Muppets (which I agree) does not change the fact that many Tories are incompetent shysters. The Tories are the bigger issue though, as they are the ones in power.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    This is the leftie bashing thread as you well know, so keep it on topic. You've got a separate tory bashing thread for all the centreleftiewhingey bollox that you care to spout :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    pangolin said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    pangolin said:

    Must be nice to find some corruption you're allowed to be concerned about.

    I never expected any whataboutery, hey ho :)

    Defending Big Len then?
    Sorry I'm not following
    I didn't expect you to. Maybe a bit beyond you Pango.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    david37 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    so Rick do you think Len is alright then? Your kind of person?
    Rick was pretty quick to defend him.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,983
    Stevo_666 said:

    david37 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    so Rick do you think Len is alright then? Your kind of person?
    Rick was pretty quick to defend him.

    Evidence?
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Since when did Stevo give a sh!t about corruption? JFC.

    Sorry you'll have to explain what you're trying to say there.
    We've seen some of the worst corruption in terms of size and scale in this pandemic, with absolutely monster contracts going to a whole host of unqualified people, save for their friendship with various bigwigs in government and you are silent on them all, but when it's a trade union and a couple orders of magnitude smaller suddenly you pipe up.

    This is the leftie bashing thread as you well know, so keep it on topic. You've got a separate tory bashing thread for all the centreleftiewhingey bollox that you care to spout :)
    So it’s an echo chamber then?

    Thought you didn’t like those.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,302
    From your quote:

    Quote: "Labour MPs have called for Unite to hold an inquiry into the £98 million cost of a hotel project which saw the main construction contract awarded to a company owned by a friend of Len McCluskey.

    So i guess this was a pro-Labour post??
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    The grease in politics is an absolute joke and it is beginning to run out of control.

    The italification of UK politics continues.
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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    Why on earth would any trade union think they could run a hotel well. Why would any trade union member subsidising this think they could and that their money was in safe hands. Maybe we should check in in ten years time and see who a union has got on with running a hospitality business.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,634
    john80 said:

    Why on earth would any trade union think they could run a hotel well. Why would any trade union member subsidising this think they could and that their money was in safe hands. Maybe we should check in in ten years time and see who a union has got on with running a hospitality business.

    Unite - Service Industries

    As Unite’s newest sector Service Industries brings together a vital and growing set of workers in the UK & Ireland. It consists of CMA which covers Royal Mail, Post Office and Parcelforce managers along with professional sales agents, hotel, hospitality, casino, security, cleaners, maintenance, non-food retail and care home workers.

    I'd imagine that they could simply ask their members. 🤔
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    edited April 2021
    Union corruption aside, looks like the upcoming Hartlepool by-election is going to be squeaky bum time for Labour:
    https://hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/politics/latest-hartlepool-by-election-odds-revealed-for-the-16-candidates-3202564

    I thought Keir was going to make them (re-)electable?

    I might have to start referring to 82 seat majorities :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,693
    So Momentum are suggesting the defeat in Hartlepool is some sort of evidence that getting rid of Corbyn and moving away from the hard left was a mistake. Have they forgotten how many "safe" seats they lost in the last GE under Corbyn's leadership?
  • skyblueamateur
    skyblueamateur Posts: 1,498
    Pross said:

    So Momentum are suggesting the defeat in Hartlepool is some sort of evidence that getting rid of Corbyn and moving away from the hard left was a mistake. Have they forgotten how many "safe" seats they lost in the last GE under Corbyn's leadership?

    Corbyn, like Michael Foot, has killed Labour as an electable party for the forseeable future.

    Job done by @Stevo_666
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Pross said:

    So Momentum are suggesting the defeat in Hartlepool is some sort of evidence that getting rid of Corbyn and moving away from the hard left was a mistake. Have they forgotten how many "safe" seats they lost in the last GE under Corbyn's leadership?

    I have heard worse arguments, there is a logic to at least Corbyn did not lose Hartlepool
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    skyblueamateur said:

    Pross said:

    So Momentum are suggesting the defeat in Hartlepool is some sort of evidence that getting rid of Corbyn and moving away from the hard left was a mistake. Have they forgotten how many "safe" seats they lost in the last GE under Corbyn's leadership?

    Corbyn, like Michael Foot, has killed Labour as an electable party for the forseeable future.

    Job done by @Stevo_666
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