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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    Ahhhhh the rot continues, long may it be so
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    rjsterry said:
    Except of course those very same people are deciding who will be Labour MP's and what a good job theyve done.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,933
    edited October 2020
    david37 said:

    rjsterry said:
    Except of course those very same people are deciding who will be Labour MP's and what a good job theyve done.
    You sure you've actually understood what he wrote?
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,933
    edited October 2020
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.
    I struggle to think of a single positive thing Corbyn being leader of Labour achieved for the UK. Can you give some examples.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Showing how good a Tory government are in a crisis.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.
    I struggle to think of a single positive thing Corbyn being leader of Labour achieved for the UK. Can you give some examples.
    Kept Corbyn out of number 10.
  • Well the way he wears a mask is no surprise.


  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    Looks like there's civil war brewing in the Labour party
    https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/29/shaming-jeremy-corbyn-sparks-labour-civil-war/

    Bring it on. Don't back down, lefties! >:)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674

    Kept Corbyn out of number 10.

    So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then? :*
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    You’re so weird, Stevo
  • Kept Corbyn out of number 10.

    So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then? :*
    I don't know the details.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?

    No.

    See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it :smile:
    Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.
    It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.

    By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
    Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.
    If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.

    Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
    🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.
    As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.
    I struggle to think of a single positive thing Corbyn being leader of Labour achieved for the UK. Can you give some examples.
    Come on, you k ow the drill, just give us the top 10
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    For once, let's hope that Big Len is right:
    https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54742096

    He called the decision "an act of grave injustice which, if not reversed, will create chaos within the party and in doing so compromise Labour's chances of a general election victory".

    Don't back down, Keir! >:)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022

    You’re so weird, Stevo

    You take politics far took seriously Rick. Entirely consistent with your reaction to my bit of fun when I started the thread :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • For party unity, it is important to ensure that a majority of the members share the prejudices of the leader.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022

    Kept Corbyn out of number 10.

    So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then? :*
    Not entirely inconceivable that Labour could have got into power under a different leader and then held a leadership contest while in power, thereby installing Corbyn in Downing Street. We wouldn't want to have taken that risk.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Throughout my childhood, the vast majority of the time, we have had a leading party with unrepresentative majorities and an opposition party in disarray about where it should be heading. (Both colours).
    There is 100% nothing good about this situation where only two loosely cohesive groups are capable of winning the house and while they’re not winning they are infighting.

    Weak opposition = weak government.
    FPTP facilitates both. Fuck the clear mandate nonsense. All we get are minority interests driving those mandates.
    Presently it is the ERG, had labour somehow won, it would have been momentum. Neither of which are at all representative.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    Also if Corbyn had never been voted in as leader, this suspension and potential civil war in the party would not be happening.

    It's still the gift that keeps on giving :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,933
    edited October 2020
    Stevo_666 said:

    Kept Corbyn out of number 10.

    So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then? :*
    Not entirely inconceivable that Labour could have got into power under a different leader and then held a leadership contest while in power, thereby installing Corbyn in Downing Street. We wouldn't want to have taken that risk.
    😂🤣 This is even better than the stuff you posted yesterday. This could never be said to be taking politics seriously.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,994
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Kept Corbyn out of number 10.

    So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then? :*
    Not entirely inconceivable that Labour could have got into power under a different leader and then held a leadership contest while in power, thereby installing Corbyn in Downing Street. We wouldn't want to have taken that risk.
    😂🤣 This is even better than the stuff you posted yesterday. This could never be said to be taking politics seriously.

    It's getting a bit like Trump and Hillary... doesn't want to let go...
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022
    Just enjoying the on-going return on my £3 :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • It's true, parties do sometimes ditch their leader and the membership elects someone wholly unsuited to be PM.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,994
    Stevo_666 said:

    Just enjoying the on-going return on my £3 :)


    Cheap way of keeping your mind off the shïtshow that calls itself the 'Government', I guess.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,308
    Do you think dUK could follow the Belgian regular example and just do without an 'elected' government for a while? Bunches of useless tw@ts on either side of the Big Game, a very well expensed big game nontheless. Having zero feels like a better option than BloJo and his pack of incompetent sycophants or Oh Jeremy Corbyn / pick up the pieces Starmer.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited November 2020
    Labour still have not learnt the basic lesson they cannot continue spending money they don't have

    Croydon Council ‘declares bankruptcy’

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/croydon-council-effectively-bankrupt-section-114-b66240.html
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 62,022

    Labour still have not learnt the basic lesson they cannot continue spending money they don't have

    Croydon Council ‘declares bankruptcy’

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/croydon-council-effectively-bankrupt-section-114-b66240.html

    Also, looks as if they were well aware of the problems nd didn't care enough to deal with it properly while they had the chance. A timely reminder of the mindset of the alternative.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,670
    Thank heavens the Tories are in power.
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