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Ahhhhh the rot continues, long may it be so0
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Except of course those very same people are deciding who will be Labour MP's and what a good job theyve done.rjsterry said:0 -
You sure you've actually understood what he wrote?david37 said:
Except of course those very same people are deciding who will be Labour MP's and what a good job theyve done.rjsterry said:1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I struggle to think of a single positive thing Corbyn being leader of Labour achieved for the UK. Can you give some examples.Stevo_666 said:rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.0 -
Showing how good a Tory government are in a crisis.0
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Kept Corbyn out of number 10.surrey_commuter said:
I struggle to think of a single positive thing Corbyn being leader of Labour achieved for the UK. Can you give some examples.Stevo_666 said:rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.1 -
Well the way he wears a mask is no surprise.
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Looks like there's civil war brewing in the Labour party
https://telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/10/29/shaming-jeremy-corbyn-sparks-labour-civil-war/
Bring it on. Don't back down, lefties!"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then?kingstongraham said:Kept Corbyn out of number 10.
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I don't know the details.bompington said:
So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then?kingstongraham said:Kept Corbyn out of number 10.
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Come on, you k ow the drill, just give us the top 10surrey_commuter said:
I struggle to think of a single positive thing Corbyn being leader of Labour achieved for the UK. Can you give some examples.Stevo_666 said:rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.
As I said, keeping them out of power was the primary aim. Stop trying to kid yourself that wasn't achieved and./or deflecting from that.rjsterry said:
🤣 You don't half write some nonsense to explain what you did. Whatever you need to tell yourself.Stevo_666 said:
If you want to look at it that way, then Corbyn inadvertently flushed them out by making them hink they could get away with it and are now being dealt with.rjsterry said:
Surely you of all people are aware of how entryism works. Sure those views were held all along but the people who held them weren't a major force within the party with places on the NEC. I don't recall Jewish Labour MPs leaving the party because of the abuse under Miliband, Brown or Blair, or even Smith or Kinnock, so something changed.Stevo_666 said:
It was there anyway. It's not like a load of lefties woke up the day after Jezza became leader and thought 'let's become anti semitic'.rjsterry said:
Shame about all the resulting antisemitism that people have had to endure though, eh? Just collateral damage I guess.Stevo_666 said:
No.rick_chasey said:No regrets voting him into labour leadership, Stevo?
See the stated aim on page 1 - it's worked so far, hasn't it
By keeping them out of power the impact of this antisemitism was lessened. So there's a bonus on top of keeping Labour out of Downing Street.
Main objective achieved with no apparent downside, as already mentioned.0 -
For once, let's hope that Big Len is right:
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54742096
He called the decision "an act of grave injustice which, if not reversed, will create chaos within the party and in doing so compromise Labour's chances of a general election victory".
Don't back down, Keir!"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You take politics far took seriously Rick. Entirely consistent with your reaction to my bit of fun when I started the threadrick_chasey said:You’re so weird, Stevo
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
For party unity, it is important to ensure that a majority of the members share the prejudices of the leader.0
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Not entirely inconceivable that Labour could have got into power under a different leader and then held a leadership contest while in power, thereby installing Corbyn in Downing Street. We wouldn't want to have taken that risk.bompington said:
So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then?kingstongraham said:Kept Corbyn out of number 10.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Throughout my childhood, the vast majority of the time, we have had a leading party with unrepresentative majorities and an opposition party in disarray about where it should be heading. (Both colours).
There is 100% nothing good about this situation where only two loosely cohesive groups are capable of winning the house and while they’re not winning they are infighting.
Weak opposition = weak government.
FPTP facilitates both. Fuck the clear mandate nonsense. All we get are minority interests driving those mandates.
Presently it is the ERG, had labour somehow won, it would have been momentum. Neither of which are at all representative.0 -
Also if Corbyn had never been voted in as leader, this suspension and potential civil war in the party would not be happening.
It's still the gift that keeps on giving"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
😂🤣 This is even better than the stuff you posted yesterday. This could never be said to be taking politics seriously.Stevo_666 said:
Not entirely inconceivable that Labour could have got into power under a different leader and then held a leadership contest while in power, thereby installing Corbyn in Downing Street. We wouldn't want to have taken that risk.bompington said:
So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then?kingstongraham said:Kept Corbyn out of number 10.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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rjsterry said:
😂🤣 This is even better than the stuff you posted yesterday. This could never be said to be taking politics seriously.Stevo_666 said:
Not entirely inconceivable that Labour could have got into power under a different leader and then held a leadership contest while in power, thereby installing Corbyn in Downing Street. We wouldn't want to have taken that risk.bompington said:
So let me get this right - if he hadn't been the leader of the Labour party he would have got to be PM then?kingstongraham said:Kept Corbyn out of number 10.
It's getting a bit like Trump and Hillary... doesn't want to let go...0 -
Just enjoying the on-going return on my £3"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0
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It's true, parties do sometimes ditch their leader and the membership elects someone wholly unsuited to be PM.0
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Stevo_666 said:
Just enjoying the on-going return on my £3
Cheap way of keeping your mind off the shïtshow that calls itself the 'Government', I guess.0 -
Do you think dUK could follow the Belgian regular example and just do without an 'elected' government for a while? Bunches of useless tw@ts on either side of the Big Game, a very well expensed big game nontheless. Having zero feels like a better option than BloJo and his pack of incompetent sycophants or Oh Jeremy Corbyn / pick up the pieces Starmer.0
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Labour still have not learnt the basic lesson they cannot continue spending money they don't have
Croydon Council ‘declares bankruptcy’
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/croydon-council-effectively-bankrupt-section-114-b66240.html0 -
Also, looks as if they were well aware of the problems nd didn't care enough to deal with it properly while they had the chance. A timely reminder of the mindset of the alternative.coopster_the_1st said:Labour still have not learnt the basic lesson they cannot continue spending money they don't have
Croydon Council ‘declares bankruptcy’
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/croydon-council-effectively-bankrupt-section-114-b66240.html"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Thank heavens the Tories are in power.- Genesis Croix de Fer
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