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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    In other news, Alastair Campbell has been expelled from the Labour party for voting Lib Dem:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48434842

    It would appear that even Labour has standards :lol:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    rjsterry wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    So, the Conservatives, Lib Dems and UKIP are all changing leader over the next couple of months. Any chance of persuading Jeremy to do the decent thing?

    Can you suggest a successor. In all seriousness as I know little about his colleagues.

    Starmer would be a colossal improvement.
    Tom Watson, no?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Robert88 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    So, the Conservatives, Lib Dems and UKIP are all changing leader over the next couple of months. Any chance of persuading Jeremy to do the decent thing?

    Can you suggest a successor. In all seriousness as I know little about his colleagues.

    Starmer would be a colossal improvement.
    Tom Watson, no?
    True, but the list of candidates who wouldn't be a colossal improvement is quite short. However it is one of those who will probably replace him due to the hard left membership base.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    In the meantime, Labour members are queueing up to be expelled from the party like Alastair Campbell
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/29/labour-members-queueing-up-to-be-expelled-by-the-party

    Wonder if I can get my 3 quid back? :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    In the meantime, Labour members are queueing up to be expelled from the party like Alastair Campbell
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/29/labour-members-queueing-up-to-be-expelled-by-the-party

    Wonder if I can get my 3 quid back? :)

    I thought £3 just made you a registered supporter rather than a full member.

    Gotta love the venom with which some Labour members use the word Blairite.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    In the meantime, Labour members are queueing up to be expelled from the party like Alastair Campbell
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/29/labour-members-queueing-up-to-be-expelled-by-the-party

    Wonder if I can get my 3 quid back? :)

    I thought £3 just made you a registered supporter rather than a full member.

    Gotta love the venom with which some Labour members use the word Blairite.
    I remember now, it was the registered supporter thing. Why spend more when that allowed me to vote for JC? Anyway, they could alway deregister me - maybe I'll send them a link to this thread? :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    In the meantime, Labour members are queueing up to be expelled from the party like Alastair Campbell
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/29/labour-members-queueing-up-to-be-expelled-by-the-party

    Wonder if I can get my 3 quid back? :)

    I thought £3 just made you a registered supporter rather than a full member.

    Gotta love the venom with which some Labour members use the word Blairite.
    I remember now, it was the registered supporter thing. Why spend more when that allowed me to vote for JC? Anyway, they could alway deregister me - maybe I'll send them a link to this thread? :)

    No, anyone who would probably vote for him in a new leadership contest gets to stay. You're locked in for the long haul.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    In the meantime, Labour members are queueing up to be expelled from the party like Alastair Campbell
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/29/labour-members-queueing-up-to-be-expelled-by-the-party

    Wonder if I can get my 3 quid back? :)

    I thought £3 just made you a registered supporter rather than a full member.

    Gotta love the venom with which some Labour members use the word Blairite.
    I remember now, it was the registered supporter thing. Why spend more when that allowed me to vote for JC? Anyway, they could alway deregister me - maybe I'll send them a link to this thread? :)

    No, anyone who would probably vote for him in a new leadership contest gets to stay. You're locked in for the long haul.
    They put the price up after the initial flood of new 'supporters' and I wasn't going to give them more than £3 once Corbyn was installed as their new liability :) So really I am out, apart from getting leftiebollox emails from time to time about supporting the glorious revolution.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Slightly fascinating how nobody seems to be calling for Corbyns resignation after the Euro election. He's performed almost as badly as May yet it just seems to be taken for granted that he just be allowed to carry on dithering.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Rolf F wrote:
    Slightly fascinating how nobody seems to be calling for Corbyns resignation after the Euro election. He's performed almost as badly as May yet it just seems to be taken for granted that he just be allowed to carry on dithering.
    True, although having such a dithering liability heading up the Labour party has its benefits, as there is a slim chance he could be replaced by someone more competent/electable :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Appreciate it's only one poll, but is anyone gonna mention the latest yougov poll?
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Appreciate it's only one poll, but is anyone gonna mention the latest yougov poll?
    Saw that in a bank report this morning. Interesting.

    "UK: poll suggests Remain coalition could win general election without a 'Corbyn risk' – In the first major poll of voting intentions for a General Election published since the results of the European elections in the UK were announced on Sunday, YouGov puts the Liberal Democrats (24%, +6pp compared to YouGov’s last poll two weeks ago) and the Brexit Party (22%, +4pp) ahead of both Labour (19%, -5pp) and the Conservatives (19%, -5pp). Together with the SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens, the Remain camp gets 38% of voting intentions. Comment: Clearly chances are rising that voters would desert the main parties at a general election as well and turn it into another referendum on Brexit only. This poll would point to a clear majority for the Remain camp and, very importantly, suggest that Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn would not be the Prime Minister of a Remain coalition. His economic policies would not play as big a role as polls suggested just a few months ago. Whether voters will really vote like this in a first-past-the-post system and what it would mean for seat distribution remains to be seen."
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Appreciate it's only one poll, but is anyone gonna mention the latest yougov poll?
    Saw that in a bank report this morning. Interesting.

    "UK: poll suggests Remain coalition could win general election without a 'Corbyn risk' – In the first major poll of voting intentions for a General Election published since the results of the European elections in the UK were announced on Sunday, YouGov puts the Liberal Democrats (24%, +6pp compared to YouGov’s last poll two weeks ago) and the Brexit Party (22%, +4pp) ahead of both Labour (19%, -5pp) and the Conservatives (19%, -5pp). Together with the SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens, the Remain camp gets 38% of voting intentions. Comment: Clearly chances are rising that voters would desert the main parties at a general election as well and turn it into another referendum on Brexit only. This poll would point to a clear majority for the Remain camp and, very importantly, suggest that Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn would not be the Prime Minister of a Remain coalition. His economic policies would not play as big a role as polls suggested just a few months ago. Whether voters will really vote like this in a first-past-the-post system and what it would mean for seat distribution remains to be seen."

    And yet Corbyn is still agitating for a GE.:?
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • mr_goo
    mr_goo Posts: 3,770
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D

    Hilarious. He sounded deranged....just what is needed to ensure he never becomes PM.

    Also wouldn't answer when questioned by press why he attended state visit of Xi Jinping or had meetings with Hamas.

    A Berkshire of the first order.
    Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D

    Hilarious. He sounded deranged....just what is needed to ensure he never becomes PM.

    Also wouldn't answer when questioned by press why he attended state visit of Xi Jinping or had meetings with Hamas.

    A Berkshire of the first order.

    Trump is a leader of capitalism which is much worse than China or Hamas. I mean people get to tell Trump he is a twat daily and all they get back is a childish tweet. In China you get banged up or shot for that kind of dissent. Common get with the Corbyn logic.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    john80 wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D

    Hilarious. He sounded deranged....just what is needed to ensure he never becomes PM.

    Also wouldn't answer when questioned by press why he attended state visit of Xi Jinping or had meetings with Hamas.

    A Berkshire of the first order.

    Trump is a leader of capitalism which is much worse than China or Hamas. I mean people get to tell Trump he is a fool daily and all they get back is a childish tweet. In China you get banged up or shot for that kind of dissent. Common get with the Corbyn logic.

    You're a bit behind the curve if you think Corbyn is pro-China, given it gave up on socialism (as Corbyn knows it) a long time ago.

    Think more the plight of Venezuela.
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    john80 wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D

    Hilarious. He sounded deranged....just what is needed to ensure he never becomes PM.

    Also wouldn't answer when questioned by press why he attended state visit of Xi Jinping or had meetings with Hamas.

    A Berkshire of the first order.

    Trump is a leader of capitalism which is much worse than China or Hamas. I mean people get to tell Trump he is a fool daily and all they get back is a childish tweet. In China you get banged up or shot for that kind of dissent. Common get with the Corbyn logic.
    How is capitalism worse than Hamas? Not sure you're comparing apples with apples here...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    john80 wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D

    Hilarious. He sounded deranged....just what is needed to ensure he never becomes PM.

    Also wouldn't answer when questioned by press why he attended state visit of Xi Jinping or had meetings with Hamas.

    A Berkshire of the first order.

    Trump is a leader of capitalism which is much worse than China or Hamas. I mean people get to tell Trump he is a fool daily and all they get back is a childish tweet. In China you get banged up or shot for that kind of dissent. Common get with the Corbyn logic.
    How is capitalism worse than Hamas? Not sure you're comparing apples with apples here...

    I think he meant that's how it is in Corbyn's eyes.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    Pross wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    john80 wrote:
    Mr Goo wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Meanwhile, Corbyn engages in some grandstanding in Parliament Square, snubs the invite to the state banquet but asks for a meeting with Trump - who snubs him.

    Oh, the indignity :D

    Hilarious. He sounded deranged....just what is needed to ensure he never becomes PM.

    Also wouldn't answer when questioned by press why he attended state visit of Xi Jinping or had meetings with Hamas.

    A Berkshire of the first order.

    Trump is a leader of capitalism which is much worse than China or Hamas. I mean people get to tell Trump he is a fool daily and all they get back is a childish tweet. In China you get banged up or shot for that kind of dissent. Common get with the Corbyn logic.
    How is capitalism worse than Hamas? Not sure you're comparing apples with apples here...

    I think he meant that's how it is in Corbyn's eyes.

    Apologies I was joking with the use of sarcasm.
  • Sirius631
    Sirius631 Posts: 991
    Corbyn is not a leader, unless you count leading from the middle. All this time, Labour has been directionless on their policy for Brexit, with Corbyn waiting to see which way everyone wants to be led.
    To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Sirius631 wrote:
    Corbyn is not a leader, unless you count leading from the middle. All this time, Labour has been directionless on their policy for Brexit, with Corbyn waiting to see which way everyone wants to be led.
    Why do you think some of us voted for him to 'lead' the Labour party? :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Sirius631 wrote:
    Corbyn is not a leader, unless you count leading from the middle. All this time, Labour has been directionless on their policy for Brexit, with Corbyn waiting to see which way everyone wants to be led.
    Why do you think some of us voted for him to 'lead' the Labour party? :)

    Anyone who likewise wanted a completely unsuitable person to lead the Conservatives into long term decline is in the fortunate position of being able to do it for free by leaving it to the existing membership. Quids in.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Good to see Labour looking to increase our international influence if they take power:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141156/john-mcdonnell-cuba-labour-jeremy-corbyn-communism-che-guevara

    The mask does seem to slip quite often with McDonnell.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Xxxx me, S666, you're not reduced to referencing the Daily Excess? Didn't Corbyn kill Princess Diana?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    orraloon wrote:
    Xxxx me, S666, you're not reduced to referencing the Daily Excess? Didn't Corbyn kill Princess Diana?
    You're not defending McDonnell are you LL?

    I'm sure that if the Express has misquoted 'Chairman Mao' McDonnell then he will be suing them. Not seen that yet.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Good to see Labour looking to increase our international influence if they take power:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141156/john-mcdonnell-cuba-labour-jeremy-corbyn-communism-che-guevara

    The mask does seem to slip quite often with McDonnell.

    Interested that you read the Daily Express although not altogether a surprise. Brain cell tax avoidance.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Robert88 wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    Good to see Labour looking to increase our international influence if they take power:
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141156/john-mcdonnell-cuba-labour-jeremy-corbyn-communism-che-guevara

    The mask does seem to slip quite often with McDonnell.

    Interested that you read the Daily Express although not altogether a surprise. Brain cell tax avoidance.
    Assumption is the mother of all something or other Robert. A bit like trying to claim debt is the same as equity - not even the Daily Express has tried to claim that :wink:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
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    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    TailWindHome wrote:
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    They have a very good point.

    However, Leopards and spots...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]

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