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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Case in point
    Adam Payne@adampayne26

    Jess Phillips to Diane Abbott just now:

    "As much as we want an election, I want to be a size 10 but I keep eating cake. You don't just get what you want. An election is not what's in front of us. Brexit is the thing that is in front of us. We have to show courage & leadership."


    Interesting point on the Iain Dale/ Jacqui Smith podcast - it used to be a cardinal rule that 2 representatives from the same party would never appear on the same programme. If they were invited one would refuse as it was clear the programme were trying to set up a division. Now, all rules are abandoned.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    orraloon wrote:
    Probably belongs on the Con party thread but hey. On the subject of (im)moderates, seeing as how I'm now a 'member' of the Tory party I get all these email notifications. My constituency faction (is Airhead Leadsom as MP) have sent out their summer activity agenda. Top of the list has them wetting themselves over an afternoon tea with Rees-Smug. Just shows the sort of sh!te 'democracy' is the dUK's where a v v small number of f-wits control the agenda, appoint their like with the end result of a Parliament full of total dipsh!ts who in the normal world would be told to GTF early doors.
    Would you really prefer to be ruled over by the bloke in the picture above your post?
    I'll infer something from your silence here, Looney :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Lagrange
    Lagrange Posts: 652
    I calculated the number of MPs that we should have if we followed the Indian parliamentary model. Its about forty.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Lagrange wrote:
    I calculated the number of MPs that we should have if we followed the Indian parliamentary model. Its about forty.
    This might be a thick question but when you say 'we', do you mean we as in a country or we as in a particular political party?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Think it was a point about the number of citizens per MP. Not sure what the relevance is.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Statement from Corbyn.
    Even at this stage of the results, we have won Trafford council and are making gains across the country, including Tory heartlands. Throughout the campaign, we have been putting forward our vision of a better society, and the need to end the austerity imposed on our communities by the Conservatives, along with the Liberal Democrats when they were in the coalition government.

    As well as local issues, voters have been talking to us about how the Tories’ shambolic handling of Brexit is overshadowing everything else. We will continue putting our case for an alternative deal to Parliament, and we will put that case to the European Union, because Labour does not want to divide people on how they voted in 2016, we want to bring people together.

    I congratulate all the Labour councillors who have been elected, and I am sorry for those who were not successful. We will fight and win those seats back and, whenever a general election comes, we are absolutely ready for it.

    I'm all for putting a brave face on things but that's just a denial of reality.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    rjsterry wrote:
    that's just a denial of reality.
    The essence of socialism in some ways.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435
    rjsterry wrote:
    Statement from Corbyn.
    Even at this stage of the results, we have won Trafford council and are making gains across the country, including Tory heartlands. Throughout the campaign, we have been putting forward our vision of a better society, and the need to end the austerity imposed on our communities by the Conservatives, along with the Liberal Democrats when they were in the coalition government.

    As well as local issues, voters have been talking to us about how the Tories’ shambolic handling of Brexit is overshadowing everything else. We will continue putting our case for an alternative deal to Parliament, and we will put that case to the European Union, because Labour does not want to divide people on how they voted in 2016, we want to bring people together.

    I congratulate all the Labour councillors who have been elected, and I am sorry for those who were not successful. We will fight and win those seats back and, whenever a general election comes, we are absolutely ready for it.

    I'm all for putting a brave face on things but that's just a denial of reality.

    May's doing much the same - trying to say that the message from the Conservatives' pounding is that they need to get on and deliver Brexit - even though they have lost most seats in Remain areas!
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    bobmcstuff wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Statement from Corbyn.
    Even at this stage of the results, we have won Trafford council and are making gains across the country, including Tory heartlands. Throughout the campaign, we have been putting forward our vision of a better society, and the need to end the austerity imposed on our communities by the Conservatives, along with the Liberal Democrats when they were in the coalition government.

    As well as local issues, voters have been talking to us about how the Tories’ shambolic handling of Brexit is overshadowing everything else. We will continue putting our case for an alternative deal to Parliament, and we will put that case to the European Union, because Labour does not want to divide people on how they voted in 2016, we want to bring people together.

    I congratulate all the Labour councillors who have been elected, and I am sorry for those who were not successful. We will fight and win those seats back and, whenever a general election comes, we are absolutely ready for it.

    I'm all for putting a brave face on things but that's just a denial of reality.

    May's doing much the same - trying to say that the message from the Conservatives' pounding is that they need to get on and deliver Brexit - even though they have lost most seats in Remain areas!

    Indeed. I think the leaver voter hasn't had many viable options this time round but suspect the European elections will be different.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Tweeted by Tony Robinson.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shit.

    May 3, 2019
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • poptart242
    poptart242 Posts: 531
    rjsterry wrote:
    Think it was a point about the number of citizens per MP. Not sure what the relevance is.

    If it were the other way around we'd have ~13k MPs. Still unsure of the relevance though.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tony Robinson.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019
    :lol:

    Great tweet, even if it is a truly massive 'No sh1t, Sherlock' statement.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Peter Coulter@peter_coulter

    The Tories have lost hundreds of seats across England. Their only councillor in Northern Ireland David Harding has also been Eliminated. @bbcnewsni #le19


    Neither Conservative nor Labour (nor Lib Dem for that matter) have any elected representatives at any level anywhere in Northern Ireland
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tony Robinson.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019

    I skin read that as Tommy Robinson :shock:
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,541
    Surrey Connuter wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tomy Robimsom.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019

    I skin read that as Tommy Robinson :shock:

    Ems and ens.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rjsterry wrote:
    Surrey Connuter wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tomy Robimsom.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019

    I skin read that as Tommy Robinson :shock:

    Ems and ens.

    My eyes are working as well as my fingers. Still find it funny that Tommy would leave the Labour because of its antisemitism
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    that's just a denial of reality.
    The essence of socialism in some ways.
    Is this denial of reality any different from Boris reality of voting in elections that didn’t happen. I wonder about someone’s morality in believing that this is acceptable for someone being touted as the next leader of the party they believe is the saviour of the UK.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Webboo wrote:
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    that's just a denial of reality.
    The essence of socialism in some ways.
    Is this denial of reality any different from Boris reality of voting in elections that didn’t happen. I wonder about someone’s morality in believing that this is acceptable for someone being touted as the next leader of the party they believe is the saviour of the UK.
    Not sure, but this is the leftie bashing thread, there's another one for that sort of stuff :)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Is that the same as no comment.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Webboo wrote:
    Is that the same as no comment.
    Nope, more a tip on where to post that.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Seems rather familiar...
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/05/do-liberal-snobs-have-emotional-need-talk-britain/
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    #premium
    _
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tony Robinson.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019

    Good old Tony. Did not know he was such a protector of the Jews. Learn something new every day.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tony Robinson.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019

    Good old Tony. Did not know he was such a protector of the Jews. Learn something new every day.
    Part of me thinks 'Well said, Baldrick'. Although in the end he was a Labour party member for many years so probably is not a born leader or intellectual colossus himself.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    john80 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Tweeted by Tony Robinson.

    Tony Robinson
    (@Tony_Robinson)
    I’ve left the Labour Party after nearly 45 years of service at Branch, Constituency and NEC levels,partly because of it’s continued duplicity on Brexit, partly because of it’s antisemitism, but also because its leadership is complete shoot.

    May 3, 2019

    Good old Tony. Did not know he was such a protector of the Jews. Learn something new every day.
    Part of me thinks 'Well said, Baldrick'. Although in the end he was a Labour party member for many years so probably is not a born leader or intellectual colossus himself.

    That's not really a comment that an intellectual colossus would make (though possibly you don't actually claim much intellect?!). I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure that there are intelligent members of both the Labour and Conservative parties no matter how unlikely that sometimes sounds. It's probably not very intelligent to assume that there aren't.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    Stephen Hawking was a Labour supporter (but definitely not a Corbyn fan).
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    He of all people can spot a massive hole, after all.
    _
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    He of all people can spot a massive hole, after all.
    As in massive hole in the financial plans of a party?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,383
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Stephen Hawking was a Labour supporter (but definitely not a Corbyn fan).
    Hawking was clearly good at science and complex theories, but I never saw anyone claiming he was a political genius.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    KingstonGraham wrote:
    Stephen Hawking was a Labour supporter (but definitely not a Corbyn fan).
    Hawking was clearly good at science and complex theories, but I never saw anyone claiming he was a political genius.

    Good at solving problems and stuff, though.

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