BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Curious to know where they're coming from.

    Could you not look on the packaging on your home delivery, or alternatively when you order them it probably says their origin?
    I don't buy from that shop.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Curious to know where they're coming from.

    Ah, OK. Thought it was some sort of trick question :) Cynical me. Will take a peek on the weekend.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697
    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It’s quite striking seeing what status the EU has outside of the EU sometimes.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    It’s quite striking seeing what status the EU has outside of the EU sometimes.

  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    ddraver said:

    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...

    one of my pet hates is that the people in charge of "Offers" at Waitrose don't communicate with the people who sort the ordering of supplies. This means I am faced with an empty shelf because somebody else bought 2 and got one free.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited March 2023

    ddraver said:

    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...

    one of my pet hates is that the people in charge of "Offers" at Waitrose don't communicate with the people who sort the ordering of supplies. This means I am faced with an empty shelf because somebody else bought 2 and got one free.
    So this is not the case, they are usually part of the same team if not the same people. The challenge is knowing how much to order is very much an art not a science and they are interested in profitability, not abundance.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867

    ddraver said:

    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...

    one of my pet hates is that the people in charge of "Offers" at Waitrose don't communicate with the people who sort the ordering of supplies. This means I am faced with an empty shelf because somebody else bought 2 and got one free.
    So this is not the case, they are usually part of the same team if not the same people. The challenge is knowing how much to order is very much an art not a science and they are interested in profitability, not abundance.
    I actually knew that but they behave like they don't. Waitrose has the worse availbility of all the supermarkets. I suspect it is because they have retrofitted buildings so don'y have the storage space
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648

    ddraver said:

    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...

    one of my pet hates is that the people in charge of "Offers" at Waitrose don't communicate with the people who sort the ordering of supplies. This means I am faced with an empty shelf because somebody else bought 2 and got one free.
    So this is not the case, they are usually part of the same team if not the same people. The challenge is knowing how much to order is very much an art not a science and they are interested in profitability, not abundance.
    I actually knew that but they behave like they don't. Waitrose has the worse availbility of all the supermarkets. I suspect it is because they have retrofitted buildings so don'y have the storage space
    It's particularly annoying if you need a certain item and were planning to buy it regardless, but it's sold out because they've put it on sale.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    pangolin said:

    ddraver said:

    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...

    one of my pet hates is that the people in charge of "Offers" at Waitrose don't communicate with the people who sort the ordering of supplies. This means I am faced with an empty shelf because somebody else bought 2 and got one free.
    So this is not the case, they are usually part of the same team if not the same people. The challenge is knowing how much to order is very much an art not a science and they are interested in profitability, not abundance.
    I actually knew that but they behave like they don't. Waitrose has the worse availbility of all the supermarkets. I suspect it is because they have retrofitted buildings so don'y have the storage space
    It's particularly annoying if you need a certain item and were planning to buy it regardless, but it's sold out because they've put it on sale.
    That and I don't go to Waitrose to save money
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    ddraver said:

    If we're basing national trends off of our most recent supermarket visit I can say that the Sainsburies in studentville was empty of fresh salad. The alcohol isle was full though.

    The kids of today...

    one of my pet hates is that the people in charge of "Offers" at Waitrose don't communicate with the people who sort the ordering of supplies. This means I am faced with an empty shelf because somebody else bought 2 and got one free.
    So this is not the case, they are usually part of the same team if not the same people. The challenge is knowing how much to order is very much an art not a science and they are interested in profitability, not abundance.
    I actually knew that but they behave like they don't. Waitrose has the worse availbility of all the supermarkets. I suspect it is because they have retrofitted buildings so don'y have the storage space
    For fresh food often the challenge is the offers are decided upon much sooner than knowledge about the harvest, if the harvest is bad they run out of supplies but they will still run the offer.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    The out of stock is not necessarily a failure.

    Constrained supply is often a deliberate tactic to create more demand.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    morstar said:

    The out of stock is not necessarily a failure.

    Constrained supply is often a deliberate tactic to create more demand.

    You are over thinking it.

    Their automated systems tell them how much was returned, the manager gets wrists slapped for returns not for empty shelves
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190

    morstar said:

    The out of stock is not necessarily a failure.

    Constrained supply is often a deliberate tactic to create more demand.

    You are over thinking it.

    Their automated systems tell them how much was returned, the manager gets wrists slapped for returns not for empty shelves
    If you say so.

    It could well be a failure but what seems a failure isn’t always the case.
  • Deliberately selling out of stuff via special offers feels more likely to be a c*ck up than some cunning plan, simply because if you p*ss off customers often enough, they become ex-customers.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    ‘Creating demand’ is not some obscure, rarely used phenomenon.

    But hey ho.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    morstar said:

    ‘Creating demand’ is not some obscure, rarely used phenomenon.

    But hey ho.

    Normally for "exclusive" trainers, not tins of rice pudding though.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227

    morstar said:

    ‘Creating demand’ is not some obscure, rarely used phenomenon.

    But hey ho.

    Normally for "exclusive" trainers, not tins of rice pudding though.
    Sh7t, there's a shortage of tinned rice pudding? I'm off to stock pile. Something which I never buy... Bog roll panic buy alert button pressed.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Stevo_666 said:
    Do you mean Brexit supporters?
  • wallace_and_gromit
    wallace_and_gromit Posts: 3,616
    edited March 2023

    Stevo_666 said:
    Do you mean Brexit supporters?
    Bit of a conundrum that one, I think.

    Will the desire to find any benefits from Brexit count for more to a typical Brexiteer than acknowledging that immigration is a good thing?
  • Telegraph article is also interesting in that it links to "abolishing red tape" are to articles about how things might be in the future rather than what red tape has already been abolished.

    Also interesting is that the changes to liberalise immigration policy referenced can only relate to non-EU immigration (as whilst in the EU, immigration policy re EU nationals was completely liberalised already). And whilst in the EU, the changes to immigration policy could have been made anyway, so the liberalisation of policy is not, by definition, as Brexit benefit as it's nothing to do with Brexit.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Stevo_666 said:
    Do you mean Brexit supporters?
    Nope.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    Telegraph article is also interesting in that it links to "abolishing red tape" are to articles about how things might be in the future rather than what red tape has already been abolished.

    Also interesting is that the changes to liberalise immigration policy referenced can only relate to non-EU immigration (as whilst in the EU, immigration policy re EU nationals was completely liberalised already). And whilst in the EU, the changes to immigration policy could have been made anyway, so the liberalisation of policy is not, by definition, as Brexit benefit as it's nothing to do with Brexit.

    "According to the OECD report referenced, it was made possible post Brexit as we could change our non-EU immigration quotas.

    Brexit freedoms have made the UK a magnet for highly-skilled migrants, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

    Its data showed that abolishing quotas and red tape after leaving the European Union has enabled Britain to lure more global talent.

    The international organisation said the UK enjoyed the largest improvement in "talent attractiveness" in 2023, moving up nine places to 7th since 2019 and climbing above the US and Canada for the first time.

    The OECD said the rankings reflected the UK's decision to abolish its quota for highly skilled workers as well as the success enjoyed by many overseas workers in the country.
    "

    I don't believe that the OECD has a pro Brexit agend.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    "Magnet for highly skilled migrants" - well not in my world.
  • Stevo_666 said:

    I don't believe that the OECD has a pro Brexit agend.

    Indeed not, but non-EU immigration policy was not constrained by anything other than UK politics whilst the UK was in the EU, so it seems "strange" (some might say "most likely not thought through properly") to attribute any change in non-EU immigration policy to "Brexit Freedoms" (either real or imaginary).

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,408

    "Magnet for highly skilled migrants" - well not in my world.

    I'm sure people have mentioned before to you that yours in not the only world.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited March 2023
    Stevo_666 said:

    "Magnet for highly skilled migrants" - well not in my world.

    I'm sure people have mentioned before to you that yours in not the only world.
    Sure. I am at the coal face of this issue though. One seam, sure, but that's my living.

    Most of the internationally mobile talent is going to the US as the pay is just worlds ahead there. Cannot over emphasise how, for those high end roles, much the US pays by comparison nowadays.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    "Its data showed that abolishing quotas and red tape after leaving the European Union has enabled Britain to lure more global talent."

    BS journalism. Keep banging the dustbin lid, it's all you have to show off.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    Telegraph article is also interesting in that it links to "abolishing red tape" are to articles about how things might be in the future rather than what red tape has already been abolished.

    Also interesting is that the changes to liberalise immigration policy referenced can only relate to non-EU immigration (as whilst in the EU, immigration policy re EU nationals was completely liberalised already). And whilst in the EU, the changes to immigration policy could have been made anyway, so the liberalisation of policy is not, by definition, as Brexit benefit as it's nothing to do with Brexit.

    "According to the OECD report referenced, it was made possible post Brexit as we could change our non-EU immigration quotas.

    Brexit freedoms have made the UK a magnet for highly-skilled migrants, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

    Its data showed that abolishing quotas and red tape after leaving the European Union has enabled Britain to lure more global talent.

    The international organisation said the UK enjoyed the largest improvement in "talent attractiveness" in 2023, moving up nine places to 7th since 2019 and climbing above the US and Canada for the first time.

    The OECD said the rankings reflected the UK's decision to abolish its quota for highly skilled workers as well as the success enjoyed by many overseas workers in the country.
    "

    I don't believe that the OECD has a pro Brexit agend.
    Does it say what position we had pre-Brexit as the excerpt only references the improvement since 2015.

    I do despair that the Remain campaign did not mention the fact that EU rules stopped non-EU immigration