BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    EU planning to stick with 'summer' time and stop changing the clocks forward and back

    The UK currently aren't


    Effectively putting NI and ROI into different time zones.


    :lol::lol::lol:

    From Sept 2018

    Except it'll be NI and GB in different time zones

    Even more lol
    How on earth do Spain and Portugal manage?
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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    rjsterry said:

    EU planning to stick with 'summer' time and stop changing the clocks forward and back

    The UK currently aren't


    Effectively putting NI and ROI into different time zones.


    :lol::lol::lol:

    From Sept 2018

    Except it'll be NI and GB in different time zones

    Even more lol
    How on earth do Spain and Portugal manage?
    They're both in the EU which has recognised the difficultly of the status quo, so is proposing legislation to manage it better.
  • Australia has at least 3 time zones and at one stage there was one that was on a half hour difference. And Perth to Sydney is similar to London to Moscow in distance. IIRC each State (or territory) sets its own time.
    So long as changes from summer time to winter time occur on the same day, let the time be decided nationally.

    Not all of Australia changes for summer and winter.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    rjsterry said:

    EU planning to stick with 'summer' time and stop changing the clocks forward and back

    The UK currently aren't


    Effectively putting NI and ROI into different time zones.


    :lol::lol::lol:

    From Sept 2018

    Except it'll be NI and GB in different time zones

    Even more lol
    How on earth do Spain and Portugal manage?
    They're both in the EU which has recognised the difficultly of the status quo, so is proposing legislation to manage it better.
    My point was that changing time zones when you cross a border is a trivial issue, whether that is within the British Isles or mainland Europe.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    EU planning to stick with 'summer' time and stop changing the clocks forward and back

    The UK currently aren't


    Effectively putting NI and ROI into different time zones.


    :lol::lol::lol:

    From Sept 2018

    Except it'll be NI and GB in different time zones

    Even more lol
    GB and NI will be on the same time which is why ROI is lobbying for a solution. Seems a ridiculous thing to try to regulate and to impose against a population's wishes.
    I revert to original lol levels

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    rjsterry said:

    rjsterry said:

    EU planning to stick with 'summer' time and stop changing the clocks forward and back

    The UK currently aren't


    Effectively putting NI and ROI into different time zones.


    :lol::lol::lol:

    From Sept 2018

    Except it'll be NI and GB in different time zones

    Even more lol
    How on earth do Spain and Portugal manage?
    They're both in the EU which has recognised the difficultly of the status quo, so is proposing legislation to manage it better.
    My point was that changing time zones when you cross a border is a trivial issue, whether that is within the British Isles or mainland Europe.
    It'll be like that weird time when the clocks change and the kitchen is in a different time zone from the car
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    rjsterry said:

    rjsterry said:

    EU planning to stick with 'summer' time and stop changing the clocks forward and back

    The UK currently aren't


    Effectively putting NI and ROI into different time zones.


    :lol::lol::lol:

    From Sept 2018

    Except it'll be NI and GB in different time zones

    Even more lol
    How on earth do Spain and Portugal manage?
    They're both in the EU which has recognised the difficultly of the status quo, so is proposing legislation to manage it better.
    My point was that changing time zones when you cross a border is a trivial issue, whether that is within the British Isles or mainland Europe.
    Yes, it's trivial. Not something a multi-national organisation should be worrying about.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Balkanisation is not usually something to aspire to.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,560

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Well let's have a single time zone for the whole world then.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Said it before, once the UK decided that agreeing things with 27 other countries represented surrender to a foreign power or having rules imposed on them, there was no way back.

    Whether or not it was in the UK's interest to agree these things became irrelevant
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Well let's have a single time zone for the whole world then.
    That's not really what is being proposed.

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    Yes. Like music. There should only be 1 song and that should be it. I propose Teenage Kicks .
    Everyone learn the words and we can move on to other things.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,697

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    Is it time for my story about the exact pitch of a concert A being set by the Treaty of Versailles?

    Yep, the War one...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    Yes. Like music. There should only be 1 song and that should be it. I propose Teenage Kicks .
    Everyone learn the words and we can move on to other things.
    Are we all eating the same thing?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,412
    Language then. That would be useful, we just need a sensible transition.

    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru!


    :smile:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    Yes. Like music. There should only be 1 song and that should be it. I propose Teenage Kicks .
    Everyone learn the words and we can move on to other things.
    Are we all eating the same thing?
    No. But for the purpose of trading things to eat we agree what things are and how they should be grown/farmed/packaged/distributed

    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited January 2022
    God with those jokes I take my hat off to the EU leaders for not being desperate to get rid of the UK 🙄
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Standardisation removes technical barriers to trade and is arguably more important than other barriers to trade like tariffs etc.

    That is why the EU is preoccupied with it as it is a critical pillar for a functioning free market.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,412
    edited January 2022

    God with those jokes I take my hat off to the EU leaders for not being desperate to get rid of the UK 🙄

    Would solve the language Balkanisation you don't like though. Or joke aside, get everyone to speak English as a first language. In line with what you want, no?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    You're obviously bored.
    Stevo_666 said:

    Language then. That would be useful, we just need a sensible transition.

    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru!


    :smile:

    Wenn du nur deine eigenen Witze schreiben könntest. 😁
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    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    Stevo_666 said:

    God with those jokes I take my hat off to the EU leaders for not being desperate to get rid of the UK 🙄

    Would solve the language Balkanisation you don't like though. Or joke aside, get everyone to speak English as a first language. In line with what you want, no?
    They already speak it as a second language, so no need.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,412
    rjsterry said:

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    You're obviously bored.
    Stevo_666 said:

    Language then. That would be useful, we just need a sensible transition.

    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru!


    :smile:

    Wenn du nur deine eigenen Witze schreiben könntest. 😁
    :smile:

    Ich kann es wahrscheinlich selbst besser machen.

    But it's interesting to see goes for Ricks appetite for standardisation goes.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,412
    edited January 2022
    rjsterry said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    God with those jokes I take my hat off to the EU leaders for not being desperate to get rid of the UK 🙄

    Would solve the language Balkanisation you don't like though. Or joke aside, get everyone to speak English as a first language. In line with what you want, no?
    They already speak it as a second language, so no need.
    We need to up the standards though, judging by the past conversations I've tried to have with it taxi drivers etc in various countries. Hence compulsory English for everyone...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    rjsterry said:

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    You're obviously bored.
    Probably, but there is a vaguely sensisble point somewhere there. Stanardisation isn't always great.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited January 2022

    rjsterry said:

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    You're obviously bored.
    Probably, but there is a vaguely sensisble point somewhere there. Stanardisation isn't always great.
    Not a fan of the 3:30 pop song aka the 7inch?

    Or that albums are roughly 45 minutes?

    If only each artist expressed their music through their own individual play formats so you would have to buy a different player for each release.
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554
    Stevo_666 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    You're obviously bored.
    Stevo_666 said:

    Language then. That would be useful, we just need a sensible transition.

    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru!


    :smile:

    Wenn du nur deine eigenen Witze schreiben könntest. 😁
    :smile:

    Ich kann es wahrscheinlich selbst besser machen.

    But it's interesting to see goes for Ricks appetite for standardisation goes.
    A lingua franca is fine by me, so long as it's not Czech.
    The funny thing (if you are into linguistics) is that there is actually a pretty standard set of transpositions between German and English.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,554

    rjsterry said:

    Meh. Standardising stuff seems exactly what countries should be agreeing

    Like music?
    You're obviously bored.
    Probably, but there is a vaguely sensisble point somewhere there. Stanardisation isn't always great.
    Musical notation is quite useful. That's fairly standard.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition