BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

TheBigBean

The government has invited chefs to put forward vegan alternatives. No idea what they plan do with them - perhaps a government recipe website - but the writing is on the wall for foie gras.

rick_chasey

I’d argue it would be bigger impact to have the Uk lean on the nations which are big producers to rein it in but whatever. Most people who feel strongly about animals don’t eat it anyway

TheBigBean

rick_chasey said:

I’d argue it would be bigger impact to have the Uk lean on the nations which are big producers to rein it in but whatever. Most people who feel strongly about animals don’t eat it anyway

Lean on France?

briantrumpet

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I’d argue it would be bigger impact to have the Uk lean on the nations which are big producers to rein it in but whatever. Most people who feel strongly about animals don’t eat it anyway

Lean on France?

We could have done that more easily when we were in the EU.

pblakeney

rick_chasey said:

I’d argue it would be bigger impact to have the Uk lean on the nations which are big producers to rein it in but whatever. Most people who feel strongly about animals don’t eat it anyway

I'd argue there will be little impact in any case.

tailwindhome

I assume the Protocol would prevent the banning of foie gras in NI.

TheBigBean

briantrumpet said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I’d argue it would be bigger impact to have the Uk lean on the nations which are big producers to rein it in but whatever. Most people who feel strongly about animals don’t eat it anyway

Lean on France?

We could have done that more easily when we were in the EU.

Easier to just ban it. It's laughable to suggest the UK could have stopped France making it.

Pross

No Government with JRM is going to ban Fois gras.

Bottom trawling certainly sounds like something that needed banning, sounds like the sort of thing that goes on in those private clubs.

briantrumpet

TheBigBean said:

briantrumpet said:

TheBigBean said:

rick_chasey said:

I’d argue it would be bigger impact to have the Uk lean on the nations which are big producers to rein it in but whatever. Most people who feel strongly about animals don’t eat it anyway

Lean on France?

We could have done that more easily when we were in the EU.

Easier to just ban it. It's laughable to suggest the UK could have stopped France making it.

We can ban it, but it'll make Llaregub difference, as I expect most UK people are like me and wouldn't dream of buying it. I think the UK did make a difference to animal welfare in the EU - we led on several issues (battery cages, sow stalls, etc) which were later incorporated into EU animal welfare law.

How about something like this? https://ec.europa.eu/food/system/files/2020-11/aw_platform_20201103_pres-09.pdf

Shame we can't have a voice in that, wouldn't you say?

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

The government has invited chefs to put forward vegan alternatives. No idea what they plan do with them - perhaps a government recipe website - but the writing is on the wall for foie gras.

Oh come on. Vegan foie gras? I cannot believe you are taking that seriously.

briantrumpet

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

The government has invited chefs to put forward vegan alternatives. No idea what they plan do with them - perhaps a government recipe website - but the writing is on the wall for foie gras.

Oh come on. Vegan foie gras? I cannot believe you are taking that seriously.

Next they'll ban forced rhubarb.

rick_chasey

Presumably it’s princess nutnut influence as I doubt BoJo gives a sh!t - probably orders it himself when he’s not paying the bill

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

Presumably it’s princess nutnut influence as I doubt BoJo gives a sh!t - probably orders it himself when he’s not paying the bill

Nice combination of speculation and b1tching. Not sure what it adds to the debate though?

surrey_commuter

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Presumably it’s princess nutnut influence as I doubt BoJo gives a sh!t - probably orders it himself when he’s not paying the bill

Nice combination of speculation and b1tching. Not sure what it adds to the debate though?

I think the assumption is that as he loses interest in her he will lose interest in the green/ethical stuff

rick_chasey

The idea BoJo is genuinely interested in animal welfare is laughable.

focuszing723

What the hell do you think Peppa is?

focuszing723

A bloody sheep?

rick_chasey

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Presumably it’s princess nutnut influence as I doubt BoJo gives a sh!t - probably orders it himself when he’s not paying the bill

Nice combination of speculation and b1tching. Not sure what it adds to the debate though?

A little more than your chat about Abbot so wind ya neck in

Stevo_666

rick_chasey said:

Stevo_666 said:

rick_chasey said:

Presumably it’s princess nutnut influence as I doubt BoJo gives a sh!t - probably orders it himself when he’s not paying the bill

Nice combination of speculation and b1tching. Not sure what it adds to the debate though?

A little more than your chat about Abbot so wind ya neck in

Nothing like a spot of centre leftie hypocrisy

TheBigBean

The RSPCA was founded in 1824. The UK has a decent history on animal welfare, so these sorts of changes shouldn't be that suprising.

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

The RSPCA was founded in 1824. The UK has a decent history on animal welfare, so these sorts of changes shouldn't be that suprising.

It's production was already banned in the UK and has been a criminal offence since 2006. We import about 200 tonnes a year. Its production is also banned in a number of EU countries. Imports have not been banned yet.

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

The RSPCA was founded in 1824. The UK has a decent history on animal welfare, so these sorts of changes shouldn't be that suprising.

It's production was already banned in the UK and has been a criminal offence since 2006. We import about 200 tonnes a year. Its production is also banned in a number of EU countries. Imports have not been banned yet.

Yes, I know.

rjsterry

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

The RSPCA was founded in 1824. The UK has a decent history on animal welfare, so these sorts of changes shouldn't be that suprising.

It's production was already banned in the UK and has been a criminal offence since 2006. We import about 200 tonnes a year. Its production is also banned in a number of EU countries. Imports have not been banned yet.

Yes, I know.

If and when we do actually ban imports then we can add fractionally reducing the global market for foie gras to the list.

briantrumpet

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

The RSPCA was founded in 1824. The UK has a decent history on animal welfare, so these sorts of changes shouldn't be that suprising.

It's production was already banned in the UK and has been a criminal offence since 2006. We import about 200 tonnes a year. Its production is also banned in a number of EU countries. Imports have not been banned yet.

Yes, I know.

If and when we do actually ban imports then we can add fractionally reducing the global market for foie gras to the list.

We're obviously not allowed to conjecture what we might have done to its production had we stayed in the EU.

TheBigBean

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

rjsterry said:

TheBigBean said:

The RSPCA was founded in 1824. The UK has a decent history on animal welfare, so these sorts of changes shouldn't be that suprising.

It's production was already banned in the UK and has been a criminal offence since 2006. We import about 200 tonnes a year. Its production is also banned in a number of EU countries. Imports have not been banned yet.

Yes, I know.

If and when we do actually ban imports then we can add fractionally reducing the global market for foie gras to the list.

Blood and a stone.

kingstongraham

TheBigBean said:

Oh, can you add to the list being able to keep summer time, or is that on your bad list as it creates problems in Ireland.

You really love pointlessly having to change clocks.

rjsterry

It would be more meaningful if we were to propose imposing our higher animal welfare standards on all meat product imports, like say, Danish pork and bacon, rather than cherry picking an item that is already hardly eaten in the UK.

TheBigBean

kingstongraham said:

TheBigBean said:

Oh, can you add to the list being able to keep summer time, or is that on your bad list as it creates problems in Ireland.

You really love pointlessly having to change clocks.

I don't think it is the sort of thing that should be regulated by the EU. All over the world, there are loads of quirky timezones designed to keep the locals happy. Therefore, if the UK were to change this I think there should be a discussion on it beyond a few MEPs.

As it happens, I'm happy with the status quo. Never go to work/school in the dark. Stays light until 10pm in the summer.

kingstongraham

That's just "I don't like the EU' logic.

ddraver

Your naivety that this guy...



gives a monkeys about french geese is really rather touching...