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  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    rick_chasey said:

    SC you have to remember John thinks having to import something hurts the U.K..

    Importing something with the express desire to minimise business footprint in the UK hurts the UK population. Its not rocket science lads. Under your model the only thing in Britain would be a big warehouse owned by FedEx which is the final distribution centre. Customer service abroad, manufacture abroad. Not many countries actively encourage this setup for obvious reasons. You want it then own it and it's consequences to the average Joe.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    john80 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    SC you have to remember John thinks having to import something hurts the U.K..

    Importing something with the express desire to minimise business footprint in the UK hurts the UK population. Its not rocket science lads. Under your model the only thing in Britain would be a big warehouse owned by FedEx which is the final distribution centre. Customer service abroad, manufacture abroad. Not many countries actively encourage this setup for obvious reasons. You want it then own it and it's consequences to the average Joe.
    Holy hyperbole batman. Way to completely misrepresent people's views.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    john80 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    SC you have to remember John thinks having to import something hurts the U.K..

    Importing something with the express desire to minimise business footprint in the UK hurts the UK population. Its not rocket science lads. Under your model the only thing in Britain would be a big warehouse owned by FedEx which is the final distribution centre. Customer service abroad, manufacture abroad. Not many countries actively encourage this setup for obvious reasons. You want it then own it and it's consequences to the average Joe.
    This populist rhetoric works well in your head but not in the real world.

    Name a country who took this path to riches.
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    rick_chasey said:

    john80 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    SC you have to remember John thinks having to import something hurts the U.K..

    Importing something with the express desire to minimise business footprint in the UK hurts the UK population. Its not rocket science lads. Under your model the only thing in Britain would be a big warehouse owned by FedEx which is the final distribution centre. Customer service abroad, manufacture abroad. Not many countries actively encourage this setup for obvious reasons. You want it then own it and it's consequences to the average Joe.
    This populist rhetoric works well in your head but not in the real world.

    Name a country who took this path to riches.
    Bizarrely the only examples I can think of are the complete opposite where their economy has been devastated by enforced isolation.

    Maybe the international community should rethink sanctions
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The world is not zero sum.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    john80 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    SC you have to remember John thinks having to import something hurts the U.K..

    Importing something with the express desire to minimise business footprint in the UK hurts the UK population. Its not rocket science lads. Under your model the only thing in Britain would be a big warehouse owned by FedEx which is the final distribution centre. Customer service abroad, manufacture abroad. Not many countries actively encourage this setup for obvious reasons. You want it then own it and it's consequences to the average Joe.
    Now do Isla bikes.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    kingstongraham said:

    john80 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    SC you have to remember John thinks having to import something hurts the U.K..

    Importing something with the express desire to minimise business footprint in the UK hurts the UK population. Its not rocket science lads. Under your model the only thing in Britain would be a big warehouse owned by FedEx which is the final distribution centre. Customer service abroad, manufacture abroad. Not many countries actively encourage this setup for obvious reasons. You want it then own it and it's consequences to the average Joe.
    Now do Isla bikes.
    Isla can get a job at the FedEx warehouse
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    I think the sarcasm is quite clear.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    edited January 2021
    thegreatdivide said:

    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

    I do, if I have to think about it.
    It depends on the definition which is what?
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    edited January 2021
    pblakeney said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

    I do.
    It depends on the definition which is what?
    I would guess many (probably most) of us are established middle class according to the definitions given after the 2013 survey here:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_Kingdom

    "Established middle class

    Members of the established middle class, about 25% of British society, reported high economic capital, high status of mean social contacts, and both high highbrow and high emerging cultural capital. Well-represented occupations included electrical engineers, occupational therapists, social workers, midwives, environmental professionals, quality assurance and regulatory professionals, town planning officials, and special needs teaching professionals."
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,329
    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

    I do.
    It depends on the definition which is what?
    I would guess many (probably most) of us are established middle class according to the definitions given after the 2013 survey here:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_Kingdom

    "Established middle class

    Members of the established middle class, about 25% of British society, reported high economic capital, high status of mean social contacts, and both high highbrow and high emerging cultural capital. Well-represented occupations included electrical engineers, occupational therapists, social workers, midwives, environmental professionals, quality assurance and regulatory professionals, town planning officials, and special needs teaching professionals."
    Wooly enough to encompass most on here if you squint just a little.
    Interesting to note that the lower Technical middle class includes aircraft pilots. 🤔
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

    I do.
    It depends on the definition which is what?
    I would guess many (probably most) of us are established middle class according to the definitions given after the 2013 survey here:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_Kingdom

    "Established middle class

    Members of the established middle class, about 25% of British society, reported high economic capital, high status of mean social contacts, and both high highbrow and high emerging cultural capital. Well-represented occupations included electrical engineers, occupational therapists, social workers, midwives, environmental professionals, quality assurance and regulatory professionals, town planning officials, and special needs teaching professionals."
    Wooly enough to encompass most on here if you squint just a little.
    Interesting to note that the lower Technical middle class includes aircraft pilots. 🤔
    Yes I found their job examples quite odd.
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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    the problem with middle class is that it creates middle performance, nothing exceptional at all. neither high nor low, just crass mediocrity. Or banality if you prefer.


  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

    I do.
    It depends on the definition which is what?
    I would guess many (probably most) of us are established middle class according to the definitions given after the 2013 survey here:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_Kingdom

    "Established middle class

    Members of the established middle class, about 25% of British society, reported high economic capital, high status of mean social contacts, and both high highbrow and high emerging cultural capital. Well-represented occupations included electrical engineers, occupational therapists, social workers, midwives, environmental professionals, quality assurance and regulatory professionals, town planning officials, and special needs teaching professionals."
    My job is in that list arrghh
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    david37 said:

    the problem with middle class is that it creates middle performance, nothing exceptional at all. neither high nor low, just crass mediocrity. Or banality if you prefer.


    Personally don't think of people of being classes or not and certainly not of myself. It's just another sodding label that we don't need.
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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,419
    rick_chasey said:

    Presumably no change in prices of wines from the rest of the world outside the EU? I'm sure consumers can take their pick as I did in Waitrose today - there is some good SA and NZ plonk in my fridge now.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Presumably no change in prices of wines from the rest of the world outside the EU? I'm sure consumers can take their pick as I did in Waitrose today - there is some good SA and NZ plonk in my fridge now.
    I am on a mission to drink less but better, using Puligny-Montrachet as a benchmark can you suggest some new world wines that have the depth and complexity
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Presumably no change in prices of wines from the rest of the world outside the EU? I'm sure consumers can take their pick as I did in Waitrose today - there is some good SA and NZ plonk in my fridge now.
    New world / old world wines - different products
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    pangolin said:

    pblakeney said:

    thegreatdivide said:

    bompington said:

    But in truth, I'll manage fine despite the complete shitshow, as will most well-established middle class people.

    Bit of a shame for all those working-class brexiteers who'll be the ones to really suffer though.

    I really hope this was posted with tongue in cheek. Do you honestly consider yourself to be a well-established middle class person?

    I do.
    It depends on the definition which is what?
    I would guess many (probably most) of us are established middle class according to the definitions given after the 2013 survey here:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_Kingdom

    "Established middle class

    Members of the established middle class, about 25% of British society, reported high economic capital, high status of mean social contacts, and both high highbrow and high emerging cultural capital. Well-represented occupations included electrical engineers, occupational therapists, social workers, midwives, environmental professionals, quality assurance and regulatory professionals, town planning officials, and special needs teaching professionals."
    Wooly enough to encompass most on here if you squint just a little.
    Interesting to note that the lower Technical middle class includes aircraft pilots. 🤔
    Yes I found their job examples quite odd.
    A very Guardian list
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    david37 said:

    the problem with middle class is that it creates middle performance, nothing exceptional at all. neither high nor low, just crass mediocrity. Or banality if you prefer.



    Oh dear
  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Presumably no change in prices of wines from the rest of the world outside the EU? I'm sure consumers can take their pick as I did in Waitrose today - there is some good SA and NZ plonk in my fridge now.
    Yup, after the French got stroppy over fishing I opted for a range of sparking wines from around the world. English, Spanish, Italian, South African, Australian, NZ. All good and probably fewer artificial flavourings than the champagne.
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    yup and the old eastern bloc wines are interesting too.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    It sound good, but it works the other way too and now you have 27 EU countries with their @rse out with a percentage of people avoiding British products and services.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    david37 said:

    yup and the old eastern bloc wines are interesting too.

    any you would particularly recommend? Serbia? Moldova?
  • pinkbikini
    pinkbikini Posts: 876
    edited January 2021
    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Presumably no change in prices of wines from the rest of the world outside the EU? I'm sure consumers can take their pick as I did in Waitrose today - there is some good SA and NZ plonk in my fridge now.
    I always thought ‘plonk’ was inferior cheap wine. Our Waitrose definitely doesn’t stock NZ plonk - it’s all quite pricey (and very good).

    If you ever shop at Majestic I would really recommend this - purchased 12 bottles at Xmas, it didn’t last long. Goes really well with any spicy food (we cook a lot of Indian, Thai and Japanese dishes)...hope this doesn’t break any advertising rules by the BikeRadar mod censored

  • pinkbikini
    pinkbikini Posts: 876
    Haha - plural profanities still get through. Amazing!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    darkhairedlord said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    Presumably no change in prices of wines from the rest of the world outside the EU? I'm sure consumers can take their pick as I did in Waitrose today - there is some good SA and NZ plonk in my fridge now.
    Yup, after the French got stroppy over fishing I opted for a range of sparking wines from around the world. English, Spanish, Italian, South African, Australian, NZ. All good and probably fewer artificial flavourings than the champagne.
    I really have no idea who is joking any more

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