BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Pross said:


    I can't have any sympathy for someone like that. None at all. They were doing well, and voted to break the system that had sustained them.

    He ought to retrain as a ballet dancer.
    If anyone tried to explain this, rather obvious, consequence to him back in 2018 he would no doubt have dismissed them as condescending remoaners making out they were more intelligent than him and tell them they lost so get over it.

    I was never particularly pro European (my main reason for voting remain back then was we at least knew what we were getting) but was amazed how anti-EU industries and regions that benefitted most from EU membership were. Living in an area that was quite heavily in favour of Brexit I regularly drive around and see infrastructure, factories etc. with signs on saying funded by the EU and I've never understood who the Brexit voters think are going to provide that funding now. Sure, it is money we as a country put in but I don't see the UK Government replacing the level of investment on a like for like basis.
    So it wasnt funded by the EU then was it.
    read to the end of his post and he covers that very point
    Someone has to fill the Coopster void and david37 was vying for it even before Coopster was banned.
    Whereas there appears to be no void in the 'people still crying over spilt milk' category...
    i suspect whatever happens theyll be crying. (or wetting their beds and then crying)
    Ha ha, talking of crying but you've flagged my post 🤣
    maybe you'll stop with your divisive bile then
  • david37 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Pross said:


    I can't have any sympathy for someone like that. None at all. They were doing well, and voted to break the system that had sustained them.

    He ought to retrain as a ballet dancer.
    If anyone tried to explain this, rather obvious, consequence to him back in 2018 he would no doubt have dismissed them as condescending remoaners making out they were more intelligent than him and tell them they lost so get over it.

    I was never particularly pro European (my main reason for voting remain back then was we at least knew what we were getting) but was amazed how anti-EU industries and regions that benefitted most from EU membership were. Living in an area that was quite heavily in favour of Brexit I regularly drive around and see infrastructure, factories etc. with signs on saying funded by the EU and I've never understood who the Brexit voters think are going to provide that funding now. Sure, it is money we as a country put in but I don't see the UK Government replacing the level of investment on a like for like basis.
    So it wasnt funded by the EU then was it.
    read to the end of his post and he covers that very point
    Someone has to fill the Coopster void and david37 was vying for it even before Coopster was banned.
    Whereas there appears to be no void in the 'people still crying over spilt milk' category...
    i suspect whatever happens theyll be crying. (or wetting their beds and then crying)
    Ha ha, talking of crying but you've flagged my post 🤣
    maybe you'll stop with your divisive bile then
    Can we all grow up with the reporting?
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    david37 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Pross said:


    I can't have any sympathy for someone like that. None at all. They were doing well, and voted to break the system that had sustained them.

    He ought to retrain as a ballet dancer.
    If anyone tried to explain this, rather obvious, consequence to him back in 2018 he would no doubt have dismissed them as condescending remoaners making out they were more intelligent than him and tell them they lost so get over it.

    I was never particularly pro European (my main reason for voting remain back then was we at least knew what we were getting) but was amazed how anti-EU industries and regions that benefitted most from EU membership were. Living in an area that was quite heavily in favour of Brexit I regularly drive around and see infrastructure, factories etc. with signs on saying funded by the EU and I've never understood who the Brexit voters think are going to provide that funding now. Sure, it is money we as a country put in but I don't see the UK Government replacing the level of investment on a like for like basis.
    So it wasnt funded by the EU then was it.
    read to the end of his post and he covers that very point
    Someone has to fill the Coopster void and david37 was vying for it even before Coopster was banned.
    Whereas there appears to be no void in the 'people still crying over spilt milk' category...
    i suspect whatever happens theyll be crying. (or wetting their beds and then crying)
    Ha ha, talking of crying but you've flagged my post 🤣
    maybe you'll stop with your divisive bile then
    Hard to stop something you aren't doing - I'm too busy crying over spilled milk and wetting the bed for that apparently.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,172
    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Pross said:


    I can't have any sympathy for someone like that. None at all. They were doing well, and voted to break the system that had sustained them.

    He ought to retrain as a ballet dancer.
    If anyone tried to explain this, rather obvious, consequence to him back in 2018 he would no doubt have dismissed them as condescending remoaners making out they were more intelligent than him and tell them they lost so get over it.

    I was never particularly pro European (my main reason for voting remain back then was we at least knew what we were getting) but was amazed how anti-EU industries and regions that benefitted most from EU membership were. Living in an area that was quite heavily in favour of Brexit I regularly drive around and see infrastructure, factories etc. with signs on saying funded by the EU and I've never understood who the Brexit voters think are going to provide that funding now. Sure, it is money we as a country put in but I don't see the UK Government replacing the level of investment on a like for like basis.
    So it wasnt funded by the EU then was it.
    read to the end of his post and he covers that very point
    Someone has to fill the Coopster void and david37 was vying for it even before Coopster was banned.
    Whereas there appears to be no void in the 'people still crying over spilt milk' category...
    i suspect whatever happens theyll be crying. (or wetting their beds and then crying)
    Ha ha, talking of crying but you've flagged my post 🤣
    maybe you'll stop with your divisive bile then
    Hard to stop something you aren't doing - I'm too busy crying over spilled milk and wetting the bed for that apparently.
    God it is so tempting to flag this, but the mods don't seem to understand irony.
  • Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Hahahahaha.

    "This wasn't what I voted for!"
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    - Dolan Tuono
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Stop reading Cake Stop threads?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • david37
    david37 Posts: 1,313
    elbowloh said:

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Reeve and Mortimer Nappies for Men.
    not much use for him then :D

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    david37 said:

    elbowloh said:

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Reeve and Mortimer Nappies for Men.
    not much use for him then :D

    Meow :smiley:
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,355
    david37 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Stevo_666 said:

    Pross said:

    david37 said:

    Pross said:


    I can't have any sympathy for someone like that. None at all. They were doing well, and voted to break the system that had sustained them.

    He ought to retrain as a ballet dancer.
    If anyone tried to explain this, rather obvious, consequence to him back in 2018 he would no doubt have dismissed them as condescending remoaners making out they were more intelligent than him and tell them they lost so get over it.

    I was never particularly pro European (my main reason for voting remain back then was we at least knew what we were getting) but was amazed how anti-EU industries and regions that benefitted most from EU membership were. Living in an area that was quite heavily in favour of Brexit I regularly drive around and see infrastructure, factories etc. with signs on saying funded by the EU and I've never understood who the Brexit voters think are going to provide that funding now. Sure, it is money we as a country put in but I don't see the UK Government replacing the level of investment on a like for like basis.
    So it wasnt funded by the EU then was it.
    read to the end of his post and he covers that very point
    Someone has to fill the Coopster void and david37 was vying for it even before Coopster was banned.
    Whereas there appears to be no void in the 'people still crying over spilt milk' category...
    i suspect whatever happens theyll be crying. (or wetting their beds and then crying)
    Ha ha, talking of crying but you've flagged my post 🤣
    maybe you'll stop with your divisive bile then
    yes, you should
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • ddraver said:

    A few tweets about suggesting that the reason I'm so quiet is that people have just stopped sending trucks to NI...

    How are those supermarket shelves looking TWH?

    Lorry traffic through Holyhead, the UK's second largest port, has fallen to about one-third of its usual capacity, port operator Stena has said.

    The company has also doubled its ferry service between France and Ireland, with more lorries travelling directly to mainland Europe.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-55565166

    "We're operating probably only about 30 to 40% capacity - the two ferry companies are very quiet."

    Another win then.
    Static dockside infrastructure is great subject matter for sketching, or even a moody 90's style music video back-drop.
    Two more wins.
  • elbowloh said:

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Reeve and Mortimer Nappies for Men.
    They are made in sweden so supplies are short.
  • david37 said:

    elbowloh said:

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Reeve and Mortimer Nappies for Men.
    not much use for him then :D

    "I'm not owned! I'm not owned! I continue to insist as I slowly shrink and transform into a corncob"
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    david37 said:

    elbowloh said:

    Are there any good British night time urinary incontinence solutions? My supplier of the bespoke craft Slovenian ones won't send them any more.

    Reeve and Mortimer Nappies for Men.
    not much use for him then :D

    "I'm not owned! I'm not owned! I continue to insist as I slowly shrink and transform into a corncob"
    Careful with that divisive bile, he'll flag you (whilst blatantly handing out abuse himself).
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    edited January 2021
    Apologies if already raised but Boris actually said this:

    "But from the point of view of UK exporters, for instance, they'll now have the advantage, that they'll only have one set of forms they have to fill out for export to around the whole world".
    "And at the moment, people have to choose that are they going to think about the EU markets or are they thinking about a global market? Now it's a totally global approach. And I think it's a wonderful thing."

    So, it is a wonderful thing that the bureaucracy that previously applied to exports outside of the EU now applies to an additional 27 countries with which we do most of our business. And that this bureaucracy which, despite being a wonderful thing, previously put off companies that focussed primarily on EU exports from bothering with the rest of the world. Which doesn't sound that wonderful really.

    His contempt for the population depresses me.

    Faster than a tent.......
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    rolf_f said:

    So, it is a wonderful thing that the bureaucracy that previously applied to exports outside of the EU now applies to an additional 27 countries with which we do most of our business.

    ... and part of the UK too, don't forget.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015

    rolf_f said:

    So, it is a wonderful thing that the bureaucracy that previously applied to exports outside of the EU now applies to an additional 27 countries with which we do most of our business.

    ... and part of the UK too, don't forget.
    Increasing amounts of it too once the border wall goes up between England and Scotland.

    Faster than a tent.......
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Yes BoJo is both disingenuous and a liar.


  • It is difficult to work out whether the extra admin is a permanent problem on every shipment or whether it is down to teething problems.

    I am reading increasing numbers of reports that Boris dropped a bollock on rules of origin which will cause enormous non-tariff barriers
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,919
    Lots of retailers in Ireland currently not selling items due to the possibility of tariffs.

    https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-07/debenhams-closes-online-business-in-ireland-as-50-major-uk-retailers-face-eu-tariffs
  • It is difficult to work out whether the extra admin is a permanent problem on every shipment or whether it is down to teething problems.

    I am reading increasing numbers of reports that Boris dropped a censored on rules of origin which will cause enormous non-tariff barriers

    It will be on all orders and we are having to pay duty on everything because of the COO rules. Nightmare.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424
    edited January 2021

    It is difficult to work out whether the extra admin is a permanent problem on every shipment or whether it is down to teething problems.

    I am reading increasing numbers of reports that Boris dropped a censored on rules of origin which will cause enormous non-tariff barriers

    It will be on all orders and we are having to pay duty on everything because of the COO rules. Nightmare.
    Is that because the goods are clearly of non-EU origin or because you can't get the necessary evidence that they are of EU origin? (Or both?)
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • It's because they are not EU or UK manufactured.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424

    It's because they are not EU or UK manufactured.

    OK, so your issue is one of tariffs to pay rather than non-tariff barriers of having to prove their origin.

    Most of our goods are exempt under WTO information technology regs but the minority that don't fall into that bucket we have to pay as you do: the rest is an exercise to show origin then once we have that, it applies going forward (and we can apply for a refund for any duty already paid).
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • We have to pay duty coming into the UK and then when we send to Europe so have doubled up on the duty.

    Fortunately, it is not the end of the world for us as we are in low percentage commodity codes. I can see it being a massive problem for some markets though.

    As stated previously it is the beaurocracy and carriage charges which is my primary concern.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,424

    We have to pay duty coming into the UK and then when we send to Europe so have doubled up on the duty.

    Fortunately, it is not the end of the world for us as we are in low percentage commodity codes. I can see it being a massive problem for some markets though.

    As stated previously it is the beaurocracy and carriage charges which is my primary concern.

    Understood. I guess you've already looked at whether you can benefit from inward processing relief?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Stevo_666 said:

    We have to pay duty coming into the UK and then when we send to Europe so have doubled up on the duty.

    Fortunately, it is not the end of the world for us as we are in low percentage commodity codes. I can see it being a massive problem for some markets though.

    As stated previously it is the beaurocracy and carriage charges which is my primary concern.

    Understood. I guess you've already looked at whether you can benefit from inward processing relief?
    Briefly, but again looks like a fairly hefty chunk of paperwork and recording so I would have to weigh up these against the duty saving. We only pay on average 1.5-2 percent so is a cost we can absorb fortunately.

    Is this a process you have experience with? Any thoughts on how to implement it would be massively appreciated.

    Atm we're still trying to get to grips with the export processes but as these become a normalised process we will probably look at this again.
  • DPD have postponed all deliveries to Europe and ROI for a week due to massive issues with paperwork and congestion at ports
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,698
    edited January 2021
    You need to speak to a Customs Broker* quick sharp!

    Trouble is all of the UK ones are full to overflowing at the moment

    *Or speak to the one you already have....
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver