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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    spatt77 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    spatt77 said:



    So i take it you would rather be ruled by a even more remote body then i take it?

    By that logic you'd rather be ruled by your local council....

    So by your logic you would rather be ruled by the EU then?
    What's my logic?
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  • spatt77
    spatt77 Posts: 324
    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    rjsterry said:

    spatt77 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    spatt77 said:

    why would anyone place zero value on sovereignty?

    Because what nation you happen to be born in is total chance?
    Not necessarily, some people want to be born in this country for various reasons!
    surrey_commuter said:

    spatt77 said:

    why would anyone place zero value on sovereignty?

    it is a good question but one that I can not answer as conversely I have no idea why anybody places any value on it. I genuinely have no idea why anybody would rather be ruled by Westminster purely because they are British.
    So i take it you would rather be ruled by a even more remote body then i take it?
    How on earth can you possibly want to be born anywhere? You might want your own children to be born somewhere and I suppose you might wish you were born somewhere else but you have absolutely no control of where you are born.

    To the second question, honestly don't give a damn. Parliament might as well be on the Moon.
    You spend a lot of time posting on a forum about a government you dont care about.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    Coops - just so we can all give you the credit you're obviously due, can you list all the invasions with overwhelming force that you personally have resisted?
  • spatt77
    spatt77 Posts: 324
    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    Well i lived in Germany for a number of years and they have as many faults as us, trust me! but I`ll probably have to eat humble pie as Rick tells me of his extensive experience of living on continent and how its all milk and honey! ;)
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    pblakeney said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    pblakeney said:

    surrey_commuter said:


    If England was being invaded I certainly wouldn’t risk my life to defend it.

    I presume that statement rather depends on how you think the insurgents will treat your family. A competent governing force isn't necessarily a nice one.
    Nope - not being religious or belief in an afterlife makes my life precious to me. Probably irrelevant as to my lack of interest in sovereignty
    Right. Now try to hold that thought and pretend you are saying that as a Bosnian in 1991.
    But surely the ones on the other side doing the murdering were nationalists banging on about sovereignty?
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    bompington said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    Coops - just so we can all give you the credit you're obviously due, can you list all the invasions with overwhelming force that you personally have resisted?
    My grandfathers generation fought and lost their lives for my and our freedoms today.

    I am not going to let some jumped up little anarchist denigrate our country because his land of birth has a backbone made of toilet paper. Especially when said anarchist is living safely and comfortably off our grandfathers sacrifice.
  • spatt77
    spatt77 Posts: 324
    The war in the old Yugoslavia wasnt about sovereignty but religion! do keep up old boy! ;)
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited June 2020
    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me to give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    edited June 2020
    spatt77 said:

    The war in the old Yugoslavia wasnt about sovereignty but religion! do keep up old boy! ;)

    You'll find his job as a Charwola is to make great tea but is not that reliable for information on Balkan wars
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    john80 said:

    rjsterry said:

    spatt77 said:

    rick_chasey said:

    spatt77 said:

    why would anyone place zero value on sovereignty?

    Because what nation you happen to be born in is total chance?
    Not necessarily, some people want to be born in this country for various reasons!
    surrey_commuter said:

    spatt77 said:

    why would anyone place zero value on sovereignty?

    it is a good question but one that I can not answer as conversely I have no idea why anybody places any value on it. I genuinely have no idea why anybody would rather be ruled by Westminster purely because they are British.
    So i take it you would rather be ruled by a even more remote body then i take it?
    How on earth can you possibly want to be born anywhere? You might want your own children to be born somewhere and I suppose you might wish you were born somewhere else but you have absolutely no control of where you are born.

    To the second question, honestly don't give a damn. Parliament might as well be on the Moon.
    You spend a lot of time posting on a forum about a government you dont care about.
    I care about them, I just don't care where they meet up and whether they are all from this country or some are from other countries.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me to give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    Oh spare us the flag frotting.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    It wasn't the Dutch people that now allow him to live his comfy lifestyle and the freedoms that he and his family have. Maybe he should consider this before continually talking down this great country. If he doesn't like living here he can f*ck off. He won't though as there is no where better to go, despite his continued anarchist and disrespectful views.
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    rjsterry said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me to give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    Oh spare us the flag frotting.
    It's woof, woof boy...
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    It wasn't the Dutch people that now allow him to live his comfy lifestyle and the freedoms that he and his family have. Maybe he should consider this before continually talking down this great country. If he doesn't like living here he can f*ck off. He won't though as there is no where better to go, despite his continued anarchist and disrespectful views.
    Sorry about this Rick. You're welcome to stay. You can even point out some flaws, even though Coops Grandad happened to be born on the better side of a sea shortly before a war we barely won with help from overseas.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • coopster_the_1st
    coopster_the_1st Posts: 5,158
    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    It wasn't the Dutch people that now allow him to live his comfy lifestyle and the freedoms that he and his family have. Maybe he should consider this before continually talking down this great country. If he doesn't like living here he can f*ck off. He won't though as there is no where better to go, despite his continued anarchist and disrespectful views.
    Sorry about this Rick. You're welcome to stay. You can even point out some flaws, even though Coops Grandad happened to be born on the better side of a sea shortly before a war we barely won with help from overseas.
    I'm glad that whatever generations of yours who fought and lived through the wars no longer have to see the way you are disrespecting what they did for all of us.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    edited June 2020
    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    It wasn't the Dutch people that now allow him to live his comfy lifestyle and the freedoms that he and his family have. Maybe he should consider this before continually talking down this great country. If he doesn't like living here he can f*ck off. He won't though as there is no where better to go, despite his continued anarchist and disrespectful views.
    Sorry about this Rick. You're welcome to stay. You can even point out some flaws, even though Coops Grandad happened to be born on the better side of a sea shortly before a war we barely won with help from overseas.
    I'm glad that whatever generations of yours who fought and lived through the wars no longer have to see the way you are disrespecting what they did for all of us.
    I suspect the majority of them would be mortified we are breaking up the EU and that some are using their legacy as an excuse, though I'm under no illusions that we'll agree about that.

    I could be wrong. I don't want to speak for them.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    I really miss the 'foe' function from the old forum. I only ever had about three people on it, but it saved the the effort of consciously ignoring personal bilge.
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    spatt77 said:

    The war in the old Yugoslavia wasnt about sovereignty but religion! do keep up old boy! ;)

    You may want to check that, Google is your friend
  • spatt77
    spatt77 Posts: 324
    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    It wasn't the Dutch people that now allow him to live his comfy lifestyle and the freedoms that he and his family have. Maybe he should consider this before continually talking down this great country. If he doesn't like living here he can f*ck off. He won't though as there is no where better to go, despite his continued anarchist and disrespectful views.
    Sorry about this Rick. You're welcome to stay. You can even point out some flaws, even though Coops Grandad happened to be born on the better side of a sea shortly before a war we barely won with help from overseas.
    I'm glad that whatever generations of yours who fought and lived through the wars no longer have to see the way you are disrespecting what they did for all of us.
    I suspect the majority of them would be mortified we are breaking up the EU and that some are using their legacy as an excuse, though I'm under no illusions that we'll agree about that.

    I could be wrong. I don't want to speak for them.
    i would suspect they woud!nt ! we didnt join the EU until 71! they had no idea what the EU would become unless they`d read 1923`s Pan - Europa manifest!
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,648
    spatt77 said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    pangolin said:

    coopster_the_1st said:

    spatt77 said:

    So tell me, who would you like to run the country then?

    He will say the Germans. It's in his blood for him to roll over and be ruled by them without putting up a fight...
    I'm not racist! Those Dutch though...

    Are you honestly taking credit for a war 75 years ago?
    I would never, unlike others here, take credit for or give away this country and our freedoms that my grandfathers generation gifted to us with their sacrifices. It would be disrespectful for all that they went through for me with give up this country and the freedoms they fought for.
    It's not disrespectful to the 200,000 or so Dutch people who died in WW2 though. Ok.
    It wasn't the Dutch people that now allow him to live his comfy lifestyle and the freedoms that he and his family have. Maybe he should consider this before continually talking down this great country. If he doesn't like living here he can f*ck off. He won't though as there is no where better to go, despite his continued anarchist and disrespectful views.
    Sorry about this Rick. You're welcome to stay. You can even point out some flaws, even though Coops Grandad happened to be born on the better side of a sea shortly before a war we barely won with help from overseas.
    I'm glad that whatever generations of yours who fought and lived through the wars no longer have to see the way you are disrespecting what they did for all of us.
    I suspect the majority of them would be mortified we are breaking up the EU and that some are using their legacy as an excuse, though I'm under no illusions that we'll agree about that.

    I could be wrong. I don't want to speak for them.
    i would suspect they woud!nt ! we didnt join the EU until 71! they had no idea what the EU would become unless they`d read 1923`s Pan - Europa manifest!
    I think you're missing the point there somewhat Spatt, you'll fit right in.
    - Genesis Croix de Fer
    - Dolan Tuono
  • spatt77
    spatt77 Posts: 324
    Oh I think you're missing the point!
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,154
    briantrumpet said:

    I really miss the 'foe' function from the old forum. I only ever had about three people on it, but it saved the the effort of consciously ignoring personal bilge.

    Just stay out of here. Mostly works.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,374
    kingstongraham said:

    briantrumpet said:

    I really miss the 'foe' function from the old forum. I only ever had about three people on it, but it saved the the effort of consciously ignoring personal bilge.

    Just stay out of here. Mostly works.

    As long as disagreements focus on arguments, not on pointless point scoring, or name calling, it's an interesting place to be. It's a credit to most of the posters, most of the time.
    https://www.facebook.com/unanglaisendiois
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    surrey_commuter said:

    spatt77 said:

    The war in the old Yugoslavia wasnt about sovereignty but religion! do keep up old boy! ;)

    You may want to check that, Google is your friend
    Indeed.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,330
    rjsterry said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    spatt77 said:

    The war in the old Yugoslavia wasnt about sovereignty but religion! do keep up old boy! ;)

    You may want to check that, Google is your friend
    Indeed.
    Indeed. But if you are a victim of ethnic cleansing then the motivation is irrelevant.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,562
    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    surrey_commuter said:

    spatt77 said:

    The war in the old Yugoslavia wasnt about sovereignty but religion! do keep up old boy! ;)

    You may want to check that, Google is your friend
    Indeed.
    Indeed. But if you are a victim of ethnic cleansing then the motivation is irrelevant.
    Agreed.
    1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
    Pinnacle Monzonite

    Part of the anti-growth coalition

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