BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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There we go, you see - needs government intervention to effect the necessary rebalancing by forcibly moving 30% of the population of London to Knoydart.rjsterry said:
Yes. Most people live in the driest bit.rick_chasey said:Is water a problem in the UK?
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Arf. In reality, the government have brought in requirements in the Building Regulations to reduce domestic water consumption and I believe the privatised utilities are required to spend a certain amount on replacing leaky mains.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Not right now. Does that guarantee it never will be?rick_chasey said:Is water a problem in the UK?
You can fool some of the people all of the time. Concentrate on those people.0 -
Bringing it back on topic. Only siphon toilets used to be allowed which don't leak. EU rules and all that.rjsterry said:Arf. In reality, the government have brought in requirements in the Building Regulations to reduce domestic water consumption and I believe the privatised utilities are required to spend a certain amount on replacing leaky mains.
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tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Good.Stevo_666 said:so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here?
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
As a general rule, it's losers that need to learn lessons more than winners.tailwindhome said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It must be nice to have a life so simple that "we pwned the libtards" keeps you happy.0
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I prefer challenges, that's too easy. The 11 seat wonders owned themselves last Decemberbompington said:It must be nice to have a life so simple that "we pwned the libtards" keeps you happy.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Labour would definitely be classed as libtards.Stevo_666 said:
I prefer challenges, that's too easy. The 11 seat wonders owned themselves last Decemberbompington said:It must be nice to have a life so simple that "we pwned the libtards" keeps you happy.
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And that my friend is the thinking which accelerates the process of one becoming the otherStevo_666 said:
As a general rule, it's losers that need to learn lessons more than winners.tailwindhome said:“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Pretty staggering that Brexit is, to Leavers so all consuming that they take an unnatural interest in overseas elections whilst viewing them only through the prism of Brexit. Not sure why anybody would label them little englanders0
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Unfortunately (as this thread has often shown), some people just don't want to learn.tailwindhome said:
And that my friend is the thinking which accelerates the process of one becoming the otherStevo_666 said:
As a general rule, it's losers that need to learn lessons more than winners.tailwindhome said:"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think interest is a little strong.surrey_commuter said:Pretty staggering that Brexit is, to Leavers so all consuming that they take an unnatural interest in overseas elections whilst viewing them only through the prism of Brexit. Not sure why anybody would label them little englanders
Grasping for nuggets to justify their position is nearer the mark.0 -
Fine Gael are doing badly because they have neglected housing and health issues, not because of Varadkar's Brexit stance. SF have capitalised on this. It's nice to see you jeering at a conservative politician for a change.Stevo_666 said:
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Did you actually read what I posted above?rjsterry said:
Fine Gael are doing badly because they have neglected housing and health issues, not because of Varadkar's Brexit stance.Stevo_666 said:
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.
Specifically : "Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? "
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Are you saying that Brexit was not an Irish domestic issue?Stevo_666 said:
Did you actually read what I posted above?rjsterry said:
Fine Gael are doing badly because they have neglected housing and health issues, not because of Varadkar's Brexit stance.Stevo_666 said:
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.
Specifically : "Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? "0 -
Sigh - the word Brexit implies that Britain may be involved. I suspect you are trying to be clever here. Where's the rolleyes emoticon when you need it?kingstongraham said:
Are you saying that Brexit was not an Irish domestic issue?Stevo_666 said:
Did you actually read what I posted above?rjsterry said:
Fine Gael are doing badly because they have neglected housing and health issues, not because of Varadkar's Brexit stance.Stevo_666 said:
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.
Specifically : "Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? "
Have a look at the issues mentioned by RJS above which the voters are punishing him for. These are what I was alluding to in my original post on the subject."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Yes. Point is, his spouting still worked even if he's not been thanked for it. The customs border will be in the Irish Sea, rather than on the island of Ireland.Stevo_666 said:
Did you actually read what I posted above?rjsterry said:
Fine Gael are doing badly because they have neglected housing and health issues, not because of Varadkar's Brexit stance.Stevo_666 said:
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.
Specifically : "Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? "
Sinn Fein have been the main beneficiary of Fine Gael's misfortune.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
As an example, UKIP/the brexit party, never got into power, does that mean they failed in their objective?rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.0 -
So why did you repeat what I has said above as if you were informing me of something new?rjsterry said:
Yes. Point is, his spouting still worked even if he's not been thanked for it. The customs border will be in the Irish Sea, rather than on the island of Ireland.Stevo_666 said:
Did you actually read what I posted above?rjsterry said:
Fine Gael are doing badly because they have neglected housing and health issues, not because of Varadkar's Brexit stance.Stevo_666 said:
Have to say I am hardly a Sinn Fein supporter, no idea where you got your idea from. Varadkar has brought this on himself.rjsterry said:
As the saying goes: every political career ends in failure. Not being PM anymore seems to be quite a profitable position in itself though, so I'm sure he'll be alright. Even May managed to convince someone to pay her £75K for a speaking engagement. As for Swinson: no it's not; she was pretty poor. Anyway, your Sinn Fein badge is in the post.Stevo_666 said:
I'm sure he'll be less than happy to lose his job. If you want to call that success then fine but he may not.rjsterry said:
Winning power is the means, not the objective. He's got the Brexit result Ireland wanted so he can probably retire fairly content. Unlike you to be cheering on the lefties.Stevo_666 said:
The main objective of any politician or political party has to be getting into power, or remaining in power. Sounds like Varadkar has failed, so not sure what lesson needs to be learnt by the Tories here? How to fail by trying to sound tough?tailwindhome said:Stevo_666 said:
Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? C'est la vie...tailwindhome said:tailwindhome said:
In a development sure to please Brexiteers, Leo Varadkar's Fine Gael party are in serious trouble in the early pollingtailwindhome said:The ripple effect of 'Getting Brexit Done' continues
Ireland will have a general election on 8th Feb
Chances are Varadkar will be out of a job by Sunday.
It could take a while to form a govt.
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/05/brexit-heroleo-varadkar-staring-barrel-defeat-irish-election/
Funny "trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit?" makes it sound like he didn't achieve his objective?
His problem, which may be covered in the pay walled article, is that the Brexit issue in Ireland is neutralised as every major party was in complete agreement, they even delayed an election to allow Fine Gael to finish the job.
But yes, as the Conservative Party of Ireland, Fine Gael are paying the price for not focusing on the key issues of housing and health and losing out to the political Left.
There may be a lesson for the Conservative Party of England.
It is Varadkar who will have learned a lesson.
I suppose its not as bad as Jo Swinson's failure.
Specifically : "Maybe he should have focused on sorting out Irish domestic issues, rather than trying to sound tough by spouting off about Brexit? "
Sinn Fein have been the main beneficiary of Fine Gael's misfortune.
The point I was making was that he didn't spend enough time or effort on his purely domestic issues and will be punished at the ballot box for that. If the Irish electorate are that grateful for what he said about Brexit, they'll re-elect him...
Although whether his statements made the difference is another question.
Just a pity the French presidential elections aren't a bit sooner. Then we can see whether another Euro gobshite is appreciated by the French electorate for his tough talking."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Like I said: Varadkar got what he wanted, we've agreed to a customs border between two parts of our own territory. Keep claiming it as a win if you like.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Quite a thing when you realize 17.4 million UK voters are less keen on the EU than remain voting Stevo.
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