BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴

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  • It's going to end up with Boris voting that he has no confidence in himself, and Corbyn voting to keep him there, isn't it?

    I heard this discussed on the radio this morning as a serious possibility.
  • robert88
    robert88 Posts: 2,696
    It's going to end up with Boris voting that he has no confidence in himself, and Corbyn voting to keep him there, isn't it?

    I heard this discussed on the radio this morning as a serious possibility.

    Well yes, Number 10 is a kind of euthanasia chamber for PMs right now. Johnson's best bet is go more authoritarian or go home. What a shame (for him, not for us) that the last elected leader who did that is so headline news today.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,351
    It's going to end up with Boris voting that he has no confidence in himself, and Corbyn voting to keep him there, isn't it?

    I heard this discussed on the radio this morning as a serious possibility.
    the liar johnson can't be trusted, allowing him to control ge timing would be walking into a trap so obvious only an idiot couldn't see it, even corbyn isn't that deluded

    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    if he wanted a ge he should've called it the day he became pm, not now try using it as a ploy to get his dishonest way
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  • sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
  • sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
    Deputy PM takes over.
  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    edited September 2019
    sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
    Deputy PM takes over.

    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.
  • sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
    Deputy PM takes over.

    Remainer?
    sorry, no dept PM, so sectretary of state, RaaB.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,183
    sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
    Deputy PM takes over.

    Do we have one?
  • Mad_Malx wrote:
    sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
    Deputy PM takes over.

    Do we have one?
    Sectretary of state Raab
  • depends on wether it is the PM resigning or the government?
  • Mad_Malx wrote:
    sungod wrote:
    if the liar doesn't like it he should resign, the country never voted for him, he has no mandate from the country, he was made pm by the tory party, which itself has had no mandate since losing it's majority at the previous ge

    If he resigns what happens then?
    Deputy PM takes over.

    Do we have one?
    Sectretary of state Raab

    For how long, as leader of a minority government?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
  • Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    TheBigBean wrote:
    How many seats in London would the Tories keep if there were an election now?

    They'd win the City. Always do. Even with Mark Fields. I'd imagine there are some others too.

    Considerable boost for Labour as Lib Dems have parachuted Chuka Umunna in.
  • TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    How many seats in London would the Tories keep if there were an election now?

    They'd win the City. Always do. Even with Mark Fields. I'd imagine there are some others too.

    Considerable boost for Labour as Lib Dems have parachuted Chuka Umunna in.

    Is that assuming he would only take Tory votes?
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.

    'Great' Britain is an island..
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,916
    TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    How many seats in London would the Tories keep if there were an election now?

    They'd win the City. Always do. Even with Mark Fields. I'd imagine there are some others too.

    Considerable boost for Labour as Lib Dems have parachuted Chuka Umunna in.

    Is that assuming he would only take Tory votes?

    I have no idea what the Lib Dems are thinking, but they will need a 14,000 vote swing. My suspicion is that he will reduce Lib Dem votes (4,000), and those will go to Labour. Labour only needs a 3,000 vote swing and have been very active locally. Since its creation in 1950 it has always been Tory.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    How many seats in London would the Tories keep if there were an election now?

    They'd win the City. Always do. Even with Mark Fields. I'd imagine there are some others too.

    Considerable boost for Labour as Lib Dems have parachuted Chuka Umunna in.

    Before or after they've announced their intention to ban City bonuses?!
  • Election on 15th, results overnight into 16th, Brussels summit 17th. Sounds like a great idea.
  • TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    How many seats in London would the Tories keep if there were an election now?

    They'd win the City. Always do. Even with Mark Fields. I'd imagine there are some others too.

    Considerable boost for Labour as Lib Dems have parachuted Chuka Umunna in.

    Is that assuming he would only take Tory votes?

    I have no idea what the Lib Dems are thinking, but they will need a 14,000 vote swing. My suspicion is that he will reduce Lib Dem votes (4,000), and those will go to Labour. Labour only needs a 3,000 vote swing and have been very active locally. Since its creation in 1950 it has always been Tory.

    They should really broker an agreement to step aside in places like that if there is an election this autumn, not put a high profile candidate in.
  • Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.

    'Great' Britain is an island..
    nope!
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.

    'Great' Britain is an island..
    nope!

    Well, you're going to have to explain that, because geography doesn't agree with you..
  • Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.

    'Great' Britain is an island..
    nope!

    Well, you're going to have to explain that, because geography doesn't agree with you..

    It's more than one island
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.

    'Great' Britain is an island..
    nope!

    Well, you're going to have to explain that, because geography doesn't agree with you..

    It's more than one island

    The British Isles are more than one island. Of which 'Great' Britain (ie the largest island in the group) is...well...it's the largest island. The key word being 'island'...
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,556
    TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    TheBigBean wrote:
    How many seats in London would the Tories keep if there were an election now?

    They'd win the City. Always do. Even with Mark Fields. I'd imagine there are some others too.

    Considerable boost for Labour as Lib Dems have parachuted Chuka Umunna in.

    Is that assuming he would only take Tory votes?

    I have no idea what the Lib Dems are thinking, but they will need a 14,000 vote swing. My suspicion is that he will reduce Lib Dem votes (4,000), and those will go to Labour. Labour only needs a 3,000 vote swing and have been very active locally. Since its creation in 1950 it has always been Tory.

    They should really broker an agreement to step aside in places like that if there is an election this autumn, not put a high profile candidate in.

    They're looking at the last European elections where the LibDems came top.
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  • Imposter wrote:

    It's more than one island

    The British Isles are more than one island. Of which 'Great' Britain (ie the largest island in the group) is...well...it's the largest island. The key word being 'island'...

    Can we agree it doesn't matter and someone only raised an objection to cause an argument like this?

    Raab is the guy who "hadn't quite understood" how important Dover/Calais was.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Robert88 wrote:
    Churchill ..... was a very hard worker

    ...really?

    In between the breakfasts, the 3 course lunches & dinners, and the endless, endless hard booze?
    https://dailyroutines.typepad.com/daily ... chill.html
    Despite all this activity Churchill’s daily routine changed little during these years. He awoke about 7:30 a.m. and remained in bed for a substantial breakfast and reading of mail and all the national newspapers. For the next couple of hours, still in bed, he worked, dictating to his secretaries.

    At 11:00 a.m., he arose, bathed, and perhaps took a walk around the garden, and took a weak whisky and soda to his study.

    At 1:00 p.m. he joined guests and family for a three-course lunch. Clementine drank claret, Winston champagne, preferable Pol Roger served at a specific temperature, port brandy and cigars. When lunch ended, about 3:30 p.m. he returned to his study to work, or supervised work on his estate, or played cards or backgammon with Clementine.

    At 5:00 p.m., after another weak whisky and soda, he went to be for an hour and a half. He said this siesta, a habit gained in Cuba, allowed him to work 1 1/2 days in every 24 hours. At 6:30 p.m. he awoke, bathed again, and dressed for dinner at 8:00 p.m.

    Dinner was the focal-point and highlight of Churchill’s day. Table talk, dominated by Churchill, was as important as the meal. Sometimes, depending on the company, drinks and cigars extended the event well past midnight. The guests retired, Churchill returned to his study for another hour or so of work.

    Basically he's does 3-4 hrs work before he gets rat-arsed.

    Strong effort not getting out of bed till 11 at which point he hits the whiskey.
  • imposter2.0
    imposter2.0 Posts: 12,028
    Imposter wrote:

    It's more than one island

    The British Isles are more than one island. Of which 'Great' Britain (ie the largest island in the group) is...well...it's the largest island. The key word being 'island'...

    Can we agree it doesn't matter and someone only raised an objection to cause an argument like this?

    Raab is the guy who "hadn't quite understood" how important Dover/Calais was.

    We can certainly agree that. But I wasn't the one claiming Great Britain is not an island.
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  • Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Imposter wrote:
    Remainer?

    Edit: Raab - Has voted leave.

    Raab is the idiot that didn't realise Britain is an island..
    Britain isn't an island.

    'Great' Britain is an island..
    nope!

    Well, you're going to have to explain that, because geography doesn't agree with you..

    It's more than one island

    The British Isles are more than one island. Of which 'Great' Britain (ie the largest island in the group) is...well...it's the largest island. The key word being 'island'...
    Is the isle of wight not part of great britain?
    Canvey island?
    Brownsea island?