BREXIT - Is This Really Still Rumbling On? 😴
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Pross wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:KingstonGraham wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Tom Newton Dunn
@tnewtondunn
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Boris Johnson says "I'd rather be dead in a ditch” than go to Brussels to ask for an Brexit extension, but doesn't answer
@kateferguson4
's question if that means he’d resign rather than abide by a law that enforces one.
Why is he painting himself into this corner?
What is going to happen to Boris if he does not ask for the extension?
I'm guessing there would be a VONC in him as PM thus triggering a GE.
Remainers need to ask why their side are so scared of putting this decision to the public in a GE and let them decide
Refusing to do what the law tells him he has to so presumably a charge of misconduct in a public office?
I would say that is better than being 'dead in a ditch'...0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Jo Johnson
@JoJohnsonUK
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It’s been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as a minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister. #overandout
This resignation means his party and constituents can have an MP who respects democracy.
It's just another whinging loser moving on and I'm glad to see it0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Tom Newton Dunn
@tnewtondunn
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Boris Johnson says "I'd rather be dead in a ditch” than go to Brussels to ask for an Brexit extension, but doesn't answer
@kateferguson4
's question if that means he’d resign rather than abide by a law that enforces one.
Why is he painting himself into this corner?
BoJo, not disciplined on chat?
WHO KNEW0 -
Coopster the 1st wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Jo Johnson
@JoJohnsonUK
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It’s been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as a minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister. #overandout
This resignation means his party and constituents can have an MP who respects democracy.
It's just another whinging loser moving on and I'm glad to see it
Pretty sure he supported his brother up to the point that he realised that he was definitely bulls***ing about trying to get a deal.
There are quite a lot of people, including those who really would prefer not to leave at all, who would accept leaving provided that is with a deal. The last poll was 46% wanted this versus 30-something who were happy with no deal. You'll probably dismiss this as remoaner propaganda or whatever but there you go. Make of it what you will.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Question time has an equal number of remoaners and leavers on its panel. Is this the first time this has occurred? It's definitely drifted from their usual 4 remoaners v 1 leaver panel.
I suppose they were expecting a GE to have been called when they were making the bookings and thus would have been under purdah rules so have been forced to remove their bias.
The benefit to the country when a GE is called is it will remove the biased reporting from the BBC, Sky and C4, to name three of the biggest culprits.0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Tom Newton Dunn
@tnewtondunn
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Boris Johnson says "I'd rather be dead in a ditch” than go to Brussels to ask for an Brexit extension, but doesn't answer
@kateferguson4
's question if that means he’d resign rather than abide by a law that enforces one.
He knows his' friends' better than I do.0 -
rjsterry wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Jo Johnson
@JoJohnsonUK
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It’s been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as a minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister. #overandout
This resignation means his party and constituents can have an MP who respects democracy.
It's just another whinging loser moving on and I'm glad to see it
Pretty sure he supported his brother up to the point that he realised that he was definitely bulls***ing about trying to get a deal.
There are quite a lot of people, including those who really would prefer not to leave at all, who would accept leaving provided that is with a deal. The last poll was 46% wanted this versus 30-something who were happy with no deal. You'll probably dismiss this as remoaner propaganda or whatever but there you go. Make of it what you will.
Parliament are not acting in that way.
They proved this week they are scared of going to the people because they will tell them what they think of their rebel bill.0 -
FTFYCoopster the 1st wrote:Leavers need to ask why their side are so scared of putting this decision to the public in a second referendum and let them decide
After all, it's the Will Of The People, so you'd win it, of course?0 -
... but you know perfectly well that a GE isn't a perfect referendum, given the other issues at stake; and that there are perfectly good reasons for the opposition not to dance to Johnson's tune.
Still, keep up the primary school level insults, after all it's all you've got.0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Mr Rees-Mogg was announcing Monday's business in the House of Commons when he launched an attack against the consultant neurologist Dr David Nicholl.
It follows after a bitter clash earlier this week when Dr Nicholl, a consultant neurologist with Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust, called an LBC phone-in show and asked the leader of the Commons what mortality rate he would accept if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal.
The Commons Leader said: "I'm afraid it seems to me that Dr David Nichol is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield.
"What he had to say - I will repeat it - is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield, in threatening that people will die because we leave the European Union.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 30011.html
It's ex-Dr Wakefield.
Other than that, it's a disgraceful show of double standards and moving the goalposts. Because JRM's answer implicitly agrees people will die, and that government doesn't yet have a better answer to that, when he complains about the mitigation plans. Of course, it's all shrouded on insults, so he ends up getting a free pass.
I wonder if JRM's "your mitigation still has people dying because it is pollitically motivated" could be considered slander when directer to an MD. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.0 -
DrHaggis wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Mr Rees-Mogg was announcing Monday's business in the House of Commons when he launched an attack against the consultant neurologist Dr David Nicholl.
It follows after a bitter clash earlier this week when Dr Nicholl, a consultant neurologist with Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust, called an LBC phone-in show and asked the leader of the Commons what mortality rate he would accept if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal.
The Commons Leader said: "I'm afraid it seems to me that Dr David Nichol is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield.
"What he had to say - I will repeat it - is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield, in threatening that people will die because we leave the European Union.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 30011.html
It's ex-Dr Wakefield.
Other than that, it's a disgraceful show of double standards and moving the goalposts. Because JRM's answer implicitly agrees people will die, and that government doesn't yet have a better answer to that, when he complains about the mitigation plans. Of course, it's all shrouded on insults, so he ends up getting a free pass.
I wonder if JRM's "your mitigation still has people dying because it is pollitically motivated" could be considered slander when directer to an MD. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.
The remoaners really don't like Project Fear or those pushing it being held up to scrutiny.
Writing a mitigation plan for this is easy, I expect our resident f*ckwit Rick could even do it, unless of course, you are politically motivated to make it as difficult as possible. This is exactly what the Yellowhammer document was designed for ahead of it being (deliberately) leaked. This certainly seems to be what Dr Nichol has done and has been called out on it, along with his Project Fear. I am sure JRM has seen updated mitigations plan that easily solves this issue.0 -
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If writing a mitigation plan was easy, we would have taken it to the EU by now, shown them that no deal wouldn't hurt us, and they would have caved in.
That this hasn't happened, suggests someone is living in an alternative reality.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
DrHaggis wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Mr Rees-Mogg was announcing Monday's business in the House of Commons when he launched an attack against the consultant neurologist Dr David Nicholl.
It follows after a bitter clash earlier this week when Dr Nicholl, a consultant neurologist with Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust, called an LBC phone-in show and asked the leader of the Commons what mortality rate he would accept if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal.
The Commons Leader said: "I'm afraid it seems to me that Dr David Nichol is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield.
"What he had to say - I will repeat it - is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield, in threatening that people will die because we leave the European Union.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 30011.html
It's ex-Dr Wakefield.
Other than that, it's a disgraceful show of double standards and moving the goalposts. Because JRM's answer implicitly agrees people will die, and that government doesn't yet have a better answer to that, when he complains about the mitigation plans. Of course, it's all shrouded on insults, so he ends up getting a free pass.
I wonder if JRM's "your mitigation still has people dying because it is pollitically motivated" could be considered slander when directer to an MD. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.
Even the Chief Medical Officer has thrown Dr Nichol under the bus, while trying to defend him
, by saying there are full plans in place for the supply of medical supplies to be unhindered. This proves he was just trying to push Project Fear and is now squealing because he has been called out on it! 0 -
Jez mon wrote:If writing a mitigation plan was easy, we would have taken it to the EU by now, shown them that no deal wouldn't hurt us, and they would have caved in.
That this hasn't happened, suggests someone is living in an alternative reality.
When the top level of govt who don't want to leave you get what we had when May and Hammond were in charge.
Things have moved on since her and Project Fear is now starting to be properly scrutinised and called out!0 -
TailWindHome wrote:Richard Corbett
@RCorbettMEP
· Sep 3
The Finnish Presidency of the EU Council of ministers @EUCouncil confirmed in answer to my question in @EPInstitutional that there has been NO NEW PROPOSAL received from the UK government on the Irish #backstop or any other aspect of #Brexit
Did your echo chamber miss this Brexit news or did you not want to share it as it undermines your argument?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49587610
Ireland will 'try' to impose checks away from border in no-deal
Looks like Ireland will not put in place check on the border so neither side will put any border infrastructure in place. Another piece of Project Fear bullsh1t exposed.0 -
That only works while regulatory alignment is maintainedCoopster the 1st wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Richard Corbett
@RCorbettMEP
· Sep 3
The Finnish Presidency of the EU Council of ministers @EUCouncil confirmed in answer to my question in @EPInstitutional that there has been NO NEW PROPOSAL received from the UK government on the Irish #backstop or any other aspect of #Brexit
Did your echo chamber miss this Brexit news or did you not want to share it as it undermines your argument?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49587610
Ireland will 'try' to impose checks away from border in no-deal
Looks like Ireland will not put in place check on the border so neither side will put any border infrastructure in place. Another piece of Project Fear bullsh1t exposed.0 -
Coopster the 1st wrote:biased reporting from the BBC, Sky and C4, to name three of the biggest culprits.
More of an RT viewer?1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
A firm believer in project brex$hit.rjsterry wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:biased reporting from the BBC, Sky and C4, to name three of the biggest culprits.
More of an RT viewer?0 -
Coopster the 1st wrote:DrHaggis wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Mr Rees-Mogg was announcing Monday's business in the House of Commons when he launched an attack against the consultant neurologist Dr David Nicholl.
It follows after a bitter clash earlier this week when Dr Nicholl, a consultant neurologist with Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust, called an LBC phone-in show and asked the leader of the Commons what mortality rate he would accept if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal.
The Commons Leader said: "I'm afraid it seems to me that Dr David Nichol is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield.
"What he had to say - I will repeat it - is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield, in threatening that people will die because we leave the European Union.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 30011.html
It's ex-Dr Wakefield.
Other than that, it's a disgraceful show of double standards and moving the goalposts. Because JRM's answer implicitly agrees people will die, and that government doesn't yet have a better answer to that, when he complains about the mitigation plans. Of course, it's all shrouded on insults, so he ends up getting a free pass.
I wonder if JRM's "your mitigation still has people dying because it is pollitically motivated" could be considered slander when directer to an MD. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.
Even the Chief Medical Officer has thrown Dr Nichol under the bus, while trying to defend him , by saying there are full plans in place for the supply of medical supplies to be unhindered. This proves he was just trying to push Project Fear and is now squealing because he has been called out on it!
She literally did the opposite but this makes sense from you because you don’t understand what words mean.0 -
JRM is probably stupid enough to repeat it outside of parliamentary privilege. Project brex$hit.Rick Chasey wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:DrHaggis wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Mr Rees-Mogg was announcing Monday's business in the House of Commons when he launched an attack against the consultant neurologist Dr David Nicholl.
It follows after a bitter clash earlier this week when Dr Nicholl, a consultant neurologist with Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust, called an LBC phone-in show and asked the leader of the Commons what mortality rate he would accept if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal.
The Commons Leader said: "I'm afraid it seems to me that Dr David Nichol is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield.
"What he had to say - I will repeat it - is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield, in threatening that people will die because we leave the European Union.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 30011.html
It's ex-Dr Wakefield.
Other than that, it's a disgraceful show of double standards and moving the goalposts. Because JRM's answer implicitly agrees people will die, and that government doesn't yet have a better answer to that, when he complains about the mitigation plans. Of course, it's all shrouded on insults, so he ends up getting a free pass.
I wonder if JRM's "your mitigation still has people dying because it is pollitically motivated" could be considered slander when directer to an MD. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.
Even the Chief Medical Officer has thrown Dr Nichol under the bus, while trying to defend him , by saying there are full plans in place for the supply of medical supplies to be unhindered. This proves he was just trying to push Project Fear and is now squealing because he has been called out on it!
She literally did the opposite but this makes sense from you because you don’t understand what words mean.0 -
I see the Botsters are in full flow again. Must mean the hello real world pressure is ramping up and the tovarischs are getting angsty.0
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He does seem to be on a bit of a self destruct mission at the moment. One can only hope.darkhairedlord wrote:
JRM is probably stupid enough to repeat it outside of parliamentary privilege. Project brex$hit.Rick Chasey wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:DrHaggis wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Mr Rees-Mogg was announcing Monday's business in the House of Commons when he launched an attack against the consultant neurologist Dr David Nicholl.
It follows after a bitter clash earlier this week when Dr Nicholl, a consultant neurologist with Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust, called an LBC phone-in show and asked the leader of the Commons what mortality rate he would accept if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal.
The Commons Leader said: "I'm afraid it seems to me that Dr David Nichol is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield.
"What he had to say - I will repeat it - is as irresponsible as Dr Wakefield, in threatening that people will die because we leave the European Union.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 30011.html
It's ex-Dr Wakefield.
Other than that, it's a disgraceful show of double standards and moving the goalposts. Because JRM's answer implicitly agrees people will die, and that government doesn't yet have a better answer to that, when he complains about the mitigation plans. Of course, it's all shrouded on insults, so he ends up getting a free pass.
I wonder if JRM's "your mitigation still has people dying because it is pollitically motivated" could be considered slander when directer to an MD. Then again, I'm not a lawyer.
Even the Chief Medical Officer has thrown Dr Nichol under the bus, while trying to defend him , by saying there are full plans in place for the supply of medical supplies to be unhindered. This proves he was just trying to push Project Fear and is now squealing because he has been called out on it!
She literally did the opposite but this makes sense from you because you don’t understand what words mean.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Coopster the 1st wrote:Jez mon wrote:If writing a mitigation plan was easy, we would have taken it to the EU by now, shown them that no deal wouldn't hurt us, and they would have caved in.
That this hasn't happened, suggests someone is living in an alternative reality.
When the top level of govt who don't want to leave you get what we had when May and Hammond were in charge.
Things have moved on since her and Project Fear is now starting to be properly scrutinised and called out!
Operation yellowhammer was with your guys at the helm though!You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Jez mon wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:Jez mon wrote:If writing a mitigation plan was easy, we would have taken it to the EU by now, shown them that no deal wouldn't hurt us, and they would have caved in.
That this hasn't happened, suggests someone is living in an alternative reality.
When the top level of govt who don't want to leave you get what we had when May and Hammond were in charge.
Things have moved on since her and Project Fear is now starting to be properly scrutinised and called out!
Operation yellowhammer was with your guys at the helm though!
Really? Sky News had photos of the documents in Sept 2018
https://news.sky.com/story/operation-yellowhammer-no-deal-brexit-plans-revealed-114916710 -
Coopster the 1st wrote:Jez mon wrote:Coopster the 1st wrote:Jez mon wrote:If writing a mitigation plan was easy, we would have taken it to the EU by now, shown them that no deal wouldn't hurt us, and they would have caved in.
That this hasn't happened, suggests someone is living in an alternative reality.
When the top level of govt who don't want to leave you get what we had when May and Hammond were in charge.
Things have moved on since her and Project Fear is now starting to be properly scrutinised and called out!
Operation yellowhammer was with your guys at the helm though!
Really? Sky News had photos of the documents in Sept 2018
https://news.sky.com/story/operation-yellowhammer-no-deal-brexit-plans-revealed-11491671
So... if some issues are known since Sept 2018, if (as Michael Gove stated in the parlamentary evidence) many of the mitigation plans are from Spring 2019, and in the August Yellowhammer these things persist... if all JRM can say is "you didn't believe strong enough" rather than "your plan would be better if A, B & C"... maybe, just maybe, project fear really has something going for it?0 -
https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-rees-m ... r-11802903
It looks like JRM has folded like a pack of cards.0 -
Coopster the 1st wrote:TailWindHome wrote:Jo Johnson
@JoJohnsonUK
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It’s been an honour to represent Orpington for 9 years & to serve as a minister under three PMs. In recent weeks I’ve been torn between family loyalty and the national interest - it’s an unresolvable tension & time for others to take on my roles as MP & Minister. #overandout
This resignation means his party and constituents can have an MP who respects democracy.
It's just another whinging loser moving on and I'm glad to see it
Democracy is all about respecting a broad church of views - something a number of sensible of Tories are concerned about.
Sadly it's not a concept a self flagellating single issue obsessed moron would understand.0 -
Having just watched Question Time I am genuinely depressed about the whole f*cking shambles
Every single side of the debate were an utter bunch of cūnts!!0 -
letap73 wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-rees-mogg-apologises-for-comparing-doctor-to-disgraced-anti-vaxxer-11802903
It looks like JRM has folded like a pack of cards.
Don't get the point in this.
His fans would have actively supported his stance, his detractors will think this apology has a complete lack of sincerity.You live and learn. At any rate, you live0
