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  • bikes`n`guns
    bikes`n`guns Posts: 959
    AM wanting another set of handbuilts for the Rourke.

    Want Mavic open pro in black on 105 silver hubs. What alternatives should I look at before buying ?
    Trek,,,, too cool for school ,, apparently
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    AM wanting another set of handbuilts for the Rourke.

    Want Mavic open pro in black on 105 silver hubs. What alternatives should I look at before buying ?

    Are we talking about the new Open PRO UST rims?
    left the forum March 2023
  • torino
    torino Posts: 46
    ugo.santalucia wrote:

    Do you save by ordering small stuff from Germany?

    I've tried alternatives, but keep coming back to Stans

    I'm living in Vienna, shipping is EUR 6,-, so even if I don't order anything else together it is probably cheaper than at any bike shop around (which are a bit posh around here).

    What was wrong with the alternatives? This wheelset is supposed to be reliable (winter wheels), so if I can get extra reliability by going with Stan's or DT, then fine, otherwise if it is just branding then I'll go with cheaper.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Stans is thicker and stickier
    left the forum March 2023
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    AM wanting another set of handbuilts for the Rourke.

    Want Mavic open pro in black on 105 silver hubs. What alternatives should I look at before buying ?
    I replaced old Mavic Open Pro (2011?) with Ambrosios. Much happier with those. Can't see what the fuss was about. May be different now and/or back in the day.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Var tape is a bit thinner and just as sticky as stans. Some rims just need the stans tape due to its thickness other benefit from the var tape.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • brit66
    brit66 Posts: 350
    Any news on anyone yet selling the new Open Pro rims?

    August sometime wasn't it?
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    Malcolm has had them for a few weeks:
    https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... -rim-brake
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    brit66 wrote:
    Any news on anyone yet selling the new Open Pro rims?

    August sometime wasn't it?

    http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/product/m ... lith-rims/

    Strada taking bookings for the Exaliths but only for complete wheelset builds.
  • brit66
    brit66 Posts: 350
    Malcolm has had them for a few weeks:
    https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... -rim-brake
    Thanks. I was looking for the Exalith coated option.
    http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/product/m ... lith-rims/

    Strada taking bookings for the Exaliths but only for complete wheelset builds.

    Thanks too, but I'll wait until I see the options (and prices) they offer. But I suspect I will probably prefer just buying the rims for my own build.
  • proylance
    proylance Posts: 27
    I can recommend Moonglu Wheels, I bought a set of hand built DT Swiss 350 Road Hubs on DT RR 411 rims for £550, bombproof.
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    proylance wrote:
    bombproof.

    Don't think too many people on here ride through war zones
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • sloppyschleckonds
    sloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    brit66 wrote:
    Malcolm has had them for a few weeks:
    https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... -rim-brake
    Thanks. I was looking for the Exalith coated option.
    http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/product/m ... lith-rims/

    Strada taking bookings for the Exaliths but only for complete wheelset builds.

    Thanks too, but I'll wait until I see the options (and prices) they offer. But I suspect I will probably prefer just buying the rims for my own build.

    After Xmas, assume 2017
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • proylance
    proylance Posts: 27
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    proylance wrote:
    bombproof.

    Don't think too many people on here ride through war zones

    Ok then they're reliable and well built and actually quite light, I'd Put them up against any stock aluminium wheel set, regardless of brand or price.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Am looking to get a pair of 50mm carbon disc brake wheels (QR, not TA), preferably able to run tubeless. Prefer to not pay over £1200. Any suggestions?
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    I will be talking to mavic again but my understanding is the Exalith rim coating wont be available this year. So I dont know why strada are taking pre-orders, unless they know something I don't.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    Hunt do there version, I do mine. I think wheelsmith do one, spokeman wheels probably do to. Try strada..... So many. they will all be wide tubeless, u shaped and well built. All under £1000 so your spoilt for choice kingstonian.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • bikes`n`guns
    bikes`n`guns Posts: 959
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Bikes`n`guns wrote:
    AM wanting another set of handbuilts for the Rourke.

    Want Mavic open pro in black on 105 silver hubs. What alternatives should I look at before buying ?

    Are we talking about the new Open PRO UST rims?

    Nope, Just the standard Black with silver braking surface.

    Just curious if there is anything else worth looking at.

    The build will be classic, using silver 105 and Nitto finishing kit, PDW mudguards etc
    Trek,,,, too cool for school ,, apparently
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Am looking to get a pair of 50mm carbon disc brake wheels (QR, not TA), preferably able to run tubeless. Prefer to not pay over £1200. Any suggestions?

    There must be something in the air Kingstonian - I'm looking for the exact same thing.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    hopkinb wrote:
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Am looking to get a pair of 50mm carbon disc brake wheels (QR, not TA), preferably able to run tubeless. Prefer to not pay over £1200. Any suggestions?

    There must be something in the air Kingstonian - I'm looking for the exact same thing.

    Let me know what you find and decide to go with !
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    Kingstonian wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Am looking to get a pair of 50mm carbon disc brake wheels (QR, not TA), preferably able to run tubeless. Prefer to not pay over £1200. Any suggestions?

    There must be something in the air Kingstonian - I'm looking for the exact same thing.

    Let me know what you find and decide to go with !
    I was just thinking it would be possible to build up some Farsports rims on Hope hubs but looking at their website the road clinchers are all with a brake track and the narrow MTB 29ers that would fit (but are too shallow) will only take up to 65psi. Some hubs (Hope included) have interchangeable end caps so if you upgrade in future you could change the hubs to TA if necessary. I know my Novatec hubs do as I can swap them between the MTB and cross bikes.
    Kinesis Pro6
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    Cotic Solaris
  • g00se
    g00se Posts: 2,221
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Am looking to get a pair of 50mm carbon disc brake wheels (QR, not TA), preferably able to run tubeless. Prefer to not pay over £1200. Any suggestions?


    If you are running to a budget, then the Chain Reaction / Wiggle's own brand Prime RR50 or RP50s are reasonable and fit the bill. Pretty much the standard chinese carbon rims and I expect the hubs are a generic from the usual sources. But they come set up for tubless with all the bits and includes skewers. I doubt they'll have the attention to detail you'll get from proper hand-builts but you'll have a UK based warranty and a price similar to the direct sales farsports type of wheelsets direct from China.

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/prim ... prod142960

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/prim ... prod142951

    As others have said, Malcomb will build a great set - anf they're a little bit wider than the above:

    https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collection ... -cx-gravel

    I've heard good things about Stayer Cycles too in London:

    http://www.stayercycles.com/wheels.html
  • azzurri78
    azzurri78 Posts: 104
    So going to ask what is a most likely a really straightforward question and hopefully one that will not get me laughed at.

    I understand that you can get rotors which are centrelock or 6 bolt. On both my existing wheels (Fulcrum sport which came with the bike and pro lite revo) I'm using 6 bolt.

    I'm thinking of getting another wheelset. Can I use centrelock (assuming I get new cl rotors). I know I could get cl to 6 bolt adaptors but was wondering if I could do away with that faff.
  • lostboysaint
    lostboysaint Posts: 4,250
    You can.
    Trail fun - Transition Bandit
    Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur/Cube Agree C62 Disc
    Allround - Cotic Solaris
  • azzurri78
    azzurri78 Posts: 104
    Thanks for the prompt and succinct reply lbs.

    All immaterial now though. I was thinking of buying the Hunt aero light disc wheels and Hunt have just upgraded them and the v2 are now no longer compatible with 15mm front thru-axles. Slightly annoying!

    Time to start the search again.
  • batters
    batters Posts: 12
    Hi all,

    New here so go easy...

    I'm building up a winter trainer and all that remains to get are disc wheels. Usage will be entirely on the road and I want it to be fast-ish (for flavour, the remainder of spec is 105 5800 and carbon/7075 finishing kit); me + kit is around 90kg at the very most. Frame has clearance for 28mm, QR front and rear and I want to run tubeless having had great experience with it on my tourer.

    I've been watching ebay for a good while aiming for 2nd hand pairs of fulcrum 5 DBs/Kinesis CX v4s etc. but haven't won any yet so am reconsidering doing my first hand build. In light of this, here is where I'm currently at:

    - Pacenti SL25s are cheap on Planet X at the minute (£20 for 24 hole, £30 for 28, + £15 for p&p though)
    - Novatec D791/792SB hubs

    The things that remain to be figured out are:
    a) can I get away with 24/24 or 24/28 or am I being an idiot and should just go for 28/28 and forget about saving £10?
    b) what spokes and nipples should I use? - I'll be riding through a Northern winter though the tourer will take the brunt of the really awful days

    Any and all help would be much appreciated.

    Best,

    P
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Just to be clear - you can use adaptors to run 6 bolt rotors on centre lock hubs but not to run centre lock rotors on 6 bolt hubs. Obvs CL rotors with CL hub or 6B rotors with 6B hubs are fine (as intended).

    If you have a road bike, the big advantage of centre lock rotors is the ability to use the Shimano freeza finned rotors. Other than that neither is better than the other IMO.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    batters wrote:
    Hi all,

    New here so go easy...

    I'm building up a winter trainer and all that remains to get are disc wheels. Usage will be entirely on the road and I want it to be fast-ish (for flavour, the remainder of spec is 105 5800 and carbon/7075 finishing kit); me + kit is around 90kg at the very most. Frame has clearance for 28mm, QR front and rear and I want to run tubeless having had great experience with it on my tourer.

    I've been watching ebay for a good while aiming for 2nd hand pairs of fulcrum 5 DBs/Kinesis CX v4s etc. but haven't won any yet so am reconsidering doing my first hand build. In light of this, here is where I'm currently at:

    - Pacenti SL25s are cheap on Planet X at the minute (£20 for 24 hole, £30 for 28, + £15 for p&p though)
    - Novatec D791/792SB hubs

    The things that remain to be figured out are:
    a) can I get away with 24/24 or 24/28 or am I being an idiot and should just go for 28/28 and forget about saving £10?
    b) what spokes and nipples should I use? - I'll be riding through a Northern winter though the tourer will take the brunt of the really awful days

    Any and all help would be much appreciated.

    Best,

    P

    28 Sapim race are the very minimum for you. Brass nipples of course
    left the forum March 2023
  • batters
    batters Posts: 12
    Had a feeling that would be the answer...

    In which case, £75 for the pair of rims. Anything else that can compete with pacenti SL25s at that price before I pull the trigger on some?
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,833
    batters wrote:
    Had a feeling that would be the answer...

    In which case, £75 for the pair of rims. Anything else that can compete with pacenti SL25s at that price before I pull the trigger on some?

    They are superb and an absolute steal at that price.

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