Road tubeless tyres, where and how much?
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I had more woes with mine last week. Rode to work all okay but when leaving noticed the rear had lost pressure. That's okay I'll stick a tube and sort when I get home. Saddlebag missing :evil:
Anyway what had happened was the air had got under the 2nd rim tape and found the weak point in the original rim tape in a spoke hole.
Cleared off all the tape, cleaned the wheel and put new tape on. Took a note from here and left it with an inner tube in for 24 hours. Took the tube out and the tyre inflated straight away job a good one. Except the valve leaked! Tightened right up all okay it seems .
Been told on another forum best tape to use is American Classic. You get two lots of tape one seals the spoke holes and the 2nd the rim. If the Stans fails I'll try this. Anyone else find that stans tape isn't to sticky?0 -
With respect mate, it sounds like you need a different sort of tyre here - something bigger perhaps (n+1 time?)
To be fair, I don't think any 23mm or 25mm road tyre would have coped with the impact unscathed and my post wasn't meant to be a criticism of tubeless tyres. Instead, it was a post to highlight how tubeless tyres can still fail in certain circumstances, even with sealant0 -
Anyone know where Schwalbe One Tubeless 700c 25mm might be in stock? Thanks0
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If you don't mind going further afield : http://www.cycletyres.fr/pneu-schwalbe-one-onestar-tubeless-2129.html .SkeetAM wrote:Anyone know where Schwalbe One Tubeless 700c 25mm might be in stock? Thanks
At the current exchange rate they will come in around £35 assuming you have a Halifax Clarity card or similar with no forex fee. And, unless you have a holiday home in France, you'll want to club together with some friends to spread the 15Euro delivery over a decent size order.0 -
sector 28s will not seal up on my hed belgium plus rims...
any tips chaps?0 -
sector 28s will not seal up on my hed belgium plus rims...
any tips chaps?
I haven't got experience with the HEDs, but I put a post on here about fitting the same tyres to Pacenti SL23s which may help, as the rim is quite similar.
Can you elaborate on the issue? Sealing at the valve, bead, etc.?
Ugo's got some HEDs I think, and might be able to give a little more specific advice about those rims.Shand Skinnymalinky
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seems to be the same issue as you had. bubbling out from the bead. I am using stans sealant if that helps. I have managed to get vittoria cx tyres and schwabe ones tight on these rims with no problem. slightly disheartening that I am still struggling after 3 days of adding sealant and spinning the wheels.sector 28s will not seal up on my hed belgium plus rims...
any tips chaps?
I haven't got experience with the HEDs, but I put a post on here about fitting the same tyres to Pacenti SL23s which may help, as the rim is quite similar.
Can you elaborate on the issue? Sealing at the valve, bead, etc.?
Ugo's got some HEDs I think, and might be able to give a little more specific advice about those rims.0 -
seems to be the same issue as you had. bubbling out from the bead. I am using stans sealant if that helps. I have managed to get vittoria cx tyres and schwabe ones tight on these rims with no problem. slightly disheartening that I am still struggling after 3 days of adding sealant and spinning the wheels.
I found the beads on these tyres to be a little non-uniform. A bit of flashing from the mould here and there. I reckon this might cause some of the bead-rim issues we might be seeing. I resolved these issues with my tyres by changing the tape to something a bit less wide. My stan's tape was 21mm, but the internal width of my rim is 18.5mm. This led the stan's to climb the wall of the rim quite a bit, which I thought might have contributed to poor sealing. Other people, however, think this is important. I went with something a little more narrow - the tesa 19mm tape, and that seemed to work much better.
If you deflate the tyres, does the bead remain tight on the rim, or does it slide back to the central well of the rim? I found this to happen when I had the Stan's tape on, but not with the narrower tesa tape. What is the internal width of your rim, and the width of the Stan's tape you're using?
Another thing to note with these tyres is that they are porous and not air-tight out of the box. The Bontrager sealant I originally used was too thin, and wouldn't seal the tyre itself. I have no experience of the Stan's sealant, but the Hutchinson sealant sorted this issue for me.Shand Skinnymalinky
Argon 18 Radon0 -
sector 28s will not seal up on my hed belgium plus rims...
any tips chaps?
Add more tapeleft the forum March 20230 -
sector 28s will not seal up on my hed belgium plus rims...
any tips chaps?
Add more tape
triple dose of sealant seems to have done the trick.
will keep an eye out and add more tape if they deflate...
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Anyone had problems with random bulges on TL tyres before? I'm wondering if my new one has an issue or not...
Took it back to the shop and they very kindly replaced the tyre for me (outstanding service by Dutch standards!!). Turns out its the rim that's the issue though as the new one feels the same :oops: :oops: :oops:We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Anyone have any experience of the Compass Bon Jon Pass which are now apparently officially TLR and at 35mm (and light) sound just the ticket to replace the almost past it Hutchinson Sectors on my GT Grade0
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Pretty much the whole range available here in the UK at
http://www.velovitality.co.uk/collections/wheels-tyres-and-tubes0 -
Yes a number of US blogs give glowing accounts and detail success with a variety of models most of which are non TLR. I'm tempted to go with the 38C Barlow Pass having successfully run various Schwalbe non TLR tyres tubeless in the past.0
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Anyone had problems with random bulges on TL tyres before? I'm wondering if my new one has an issue or not...
Took it back to the shop and they very kindly replaced the tyre for me (outstanding service by Dutch standards!!). Turns out its the rim that's the issue though as the new one feels the same :oops: :oops: :oops:
Is this on your Pro Ones?
When riding at slower speeds I to have the feeling of a bulge in the tyre. Nothing to apparent though on the tyre but like a 'knocking' sensation. Odd.0 -
Oh dear think these tyres have a fault? I'll go over with a fine tooth later as the sensation is the same when I rode with a bulge in an inner tube. After all the hassle I had getting these to inflate! I'll also contact Schwalbe UK via Twitter to see if they have any reports.
I remember the bad old days of the R.1 fiasco.0 -
THis needs to be on the first page really but our brethren at road.cc have made a great list of which manufactures offer tubeless wheels and which models they are - http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/172782-buyers-guide-tubeless-wheels
It doesnt include Hunt wheels or Handbuilt rims
And tyres - http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/172548-buyers-guide-tubeless-tyres-%E2%80%94-all-your-options-new-technology-rubber
Doesnt include CX/Gravel tyresWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Why are these tyres so difficult to source? I would like to get some Schwalbe S-One tyres but stocks seem to be non-existent (in fact, stocks of tubeless in general are poor). Somebody is missing a trick somewhere.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0
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Why are these tyres so difficult to source? I would like to get some Schwalbe S-One tyres but stocks seem to be non-existent (in fact, stocks of tubeless in general are poor). Somebody is missing a trick somewhere.
Get the Sector instead... 39 quid at Wiggle... or the IRC... 40 quid at the cycleclinicleft the forum March 20230 -
Wiggle have Schwalbe S-ones in stock. Not cheap though...0
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I am all over the place on the old 25mm Schwalbe Ones. Plus the tyres are dying by a thousand cuts (well 10-15) Today in a straight line a bit of surface mud on the camber my rear dipped in to it and it full on slid away down the camber wtf. Never had that with any other tyre weirdest sensation I have ever had and just lucky I didn't go over to be honest.
It is feeling pretty unsteady and I take it real easy now in corners and hate crossing white lines etc. I have ridden loads of winter miles on clinchers at down to -3 and not felt as unsteady as this week so pretty sure it is the tyre and not me being a tit.. Not put a 1000 miles in to these yet.
So recommend me a tyre, I was kind of tempted by the Specialized Roubaix tubeless 25 wall with 23mm centre, hefty price but I loved these in the clincher version. Anyone tried these? Don't really want 28mm so that rules out the Sector. So comes down to a Bonty or Hutchinson intensive?0 -
I think I'd put it down to the road rather than the tyre.Fat-Boy-Roubaix wrote:I am all over the place on the old 25mm Schwalbe Ones...
If you want to try an alternative I can recommend Hutchinson Intensive tubeless for winter. Hard wearing and tough as old boots with grip and ride about the same as Conti 4 Season. Run around 6 bar. Although marked as 25mm they're barely 24mm, and are probably the hardest to fit of all tubeless tyres. Also, they will likely require sealant; in five of these tyres I have had only one that held air without. But once you get them on they'll outlast the wheel rims.0 -
Anyone heard of vee tyre Apache chief tubeless, seen them on fleabay £28, they're 185tpi and 270g for 25's.0
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Nah the tyre is definitely more edgy than something like a 4Season or Specialized Armadillo winter type tyres. OR Even GP4000. Riding the same commute, even thinking about it hill starts I have never wheel spun standing start before not in 4 years stopping at he same traffic lights & painted lines half way up the hill and it has nothing to do with me discovering some extra leg power!
So I bought into the marketing spiel and I am going to try out some S-One 30mm it will mean running for a few days without any mudguards until the bigger ones arrive.0
