The Irony Thread

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,592
    elbowloh said:

    shortfall said:

    elbowloh said:

    Fake news.

    Who said anything about hate?

    You don't find it interesting or intriguing that GB news is foreign owned and managed?

    You guys are unbelievable. Just because I treat GB news with suspicion it doesn't follow I uphold the beeb as a paragon of virtue. That's the kind of logic you get from Trump supporters.

    Ok. No I don't find it interesting or intriguing that it's foreign owned. I can see why someone who was suspicious of it would see some irony in it I guess but that's about it. I'm more interested to hear why you're suspicious.

    I find it interesting that you don't find any interest in that fact.

    Why would you set up a news organisation in a foreign country? It's not for the money as its very likely it won't make money, most news channels don't. It's costing something in the region of £100m to set up.

    That pretty much leaves the most likely reason being to exert influence.

    Why do you think RT set up in the UK?
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Good luck to them. It looks a bit shit and try hard to me, but might work for their audience.

    I think they will find their ambitions will be too expensive, and they'll go to rolling news and talking heads in the evening. That needs ginned up outrage, which is nice and cheap.
  • morstar
    morstar Posts: 6,190
    Irony:
    Biased posters lecturing others about balance.
    Hearing about how left biased the forum is by posters that cheer each other on supporting anything perceived as anti-left.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    shortfall said:

    shortfall said:

    orraloon said:

    Toryfanbois out in force again. Likee, likee, likee. Hardly ironic though.

    Wtf is that banging away at my arris? Oh, it's Spaffer. Do carry on sah.

    What does your personal dislike of Boris Johnson have to do with GB News? I don't like him either if that helps? I am however looking forward to seeing some news and analysis that isn't the same old same old.
    Ever watched Al Jazeera? Not the same old, same old and without the inherent bias of the UK press.
    I can't say that I have tbh but I sometimes watch RT (yes I know it's Kremlin backed).
    Lol you do surprise me
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    edited May 2021
    I think you're confusing personal bias (which I am happy to admit to) with supposed impartiality of our state broadcaster which some of us believe gives too much weight to a left wing metropolitan view of the world, indeed so do some of its most respected presenters such as Andrew Matt who have said similar. I have also pointed to a left, liberal metropolitan bias in Cake Stop which is fine as it has no brief other than to host the views of the people who post on it. Occasionally I will point out that the widely shared opinions among regular posters aren't necessarily reflective of the voting public as proved by the referendum and general election results. I hope that GB News will be nearer to my world view than the BBC or Channel 4 News are. Is that so bad?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited May 2021
    Short do you merely swallow the populist “elitist vs the rest” j!zz, or do you fully throat it first?

  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660
    Why is the aim to find news that is close to your world view? Shouldn't it just be giving the news? Appreciate that is hard to find.
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  • pblakeney
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    People looking for an echo chamber to widen their world view.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    edited May 2021
    pblakeney said:

    People looking for an echo chamber to widen their world view.

    It’s the arrogance that it’s only the “metropolitans from wing” live in bubbles and don’t live in the “real world”.

    Here’s a clue. Everyone’s as bad everyone else. Some just deliver it less divisively than others and some know it
  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    pblakeney said:

    People looking for an echo chamber to widen their world view.

    The availability of a right of centre news channel doesn't preclude people from watching alternative sources as well. Sometimes I force myself to watch Channel 4 News for instance although I usually need a cold shower afterwards.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    shortfall said:

    Sometimes I force myself to watch Channel 4 News for instance although I usually need a cold shower afterwards.

    Why? Serious question.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,808
    shortfall said:

    pblakeney said:

    People looking for an echo chamber to widen their world view.

    The availability of a right of centre news channel doesn't preclude people from watching alternative sources as well. Sometimes I force myself to watch Channel 4 News for instance although I usually need a cold shower afterwards.
    Christ, I even read Guardian articles fairly regularly. It's good to read stuff that makes you laugh.
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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    Same reason I debate in here, to try and understand the other side of the argument. That and Kathy Newman is fit.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    shortfall said:

    Same reason I debate in here, to try and understand the other side of the argument. That and Kathy Newman is fit.

    Lol you don’t debate.

    You moan about not having your point heard, and have a go at other people.

    I am not above having a go at other people, as this post plainly demonstrates, but don’t be so arrogant to think you actually debate.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,269
    shortfall said:

    Same reason I debate in here, to try and understand the other side of the argument. That and Kathy Newman is fit.

    Ok, gotcha.

    It was the 'cold shower' aspect I was questioning.
  • ballysmate
    ballysmate Posts: 15,996
    orraloon said:

    shortfall said:

    Same reason I debate in here, to try and understand the other side of the argument. That and Kathy Newman is fit.

    Ok, gotcha.

    It was the 'cold shower' aspect I was questioning.
    I look at the Guardian. Sometimes feel dirty afterwards.
    Perhaps I should try a post read shower.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    pangolin said:

    Why is the aim to find news that is close to your world view? Shouldn't it just be giving the news? Appreciate that is hard to find.

    This doesn't exist. News is whatever those telling you the news decides it is.

  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    orraloon said:

    shortfall said:

    Same reason I debate in here, to try and understand the other side of the argument. That and Kathy Newman is fit.

    Ok, gotcha.

    It was the 'cold shower' aspect I was questioning.
    Ah right. Well Ch 4 News doesn't try and hide it's left wing bias (John "fu.ck the torys" Snow anyone?) so for somebody like me it's not a natural fit. Sometimes it's good though.
  • john80
    john80 Posts: 2,965
    The TV media narrative needs a villain persecuting someone preferably vulnerable to make the majority of stories work. Hence they often come across as left or liberal. There are obvious exceptions but these tend to be more US based.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    john80 said:

    The TV media narrative needs a villain persecuting someone preferably vulnerable to make the majority of stories work. Hence they often come across as left or liberal. There are obvious exceptions but these tend to be more US based.

    TV news focusses on stories that work with moving pictures. I don't watch TV news and it is surprises me the importance that people who do place on subjects taht barely register in print media.
  • briantrumpet
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    john80 said:

    The TV media narrative needs a villain persecuting someone preferably vulnerable to make the majority of stories work. Hence they often come across as left or liberal. There are obvious exceptions but these tend to be more US based.

    TV news focusses on stories that work with moving pictures. I don't watch TV news and it is surprises me the importance that people who do place on subjects taht barely register in print media.
    This.

    Once you twig that TV news is just a lurid branch of the entertainment business, it opens your eyes to how skewed and corrosive it is.
  • tailwindhome
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    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    Lads, lockdown's over, go for a pint.
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  • wilberforce
    wilberforce Posts: 316
    The story that some of those who came back from Portugal on Friday to avoid the need to isolate have now been informed they must isolate due to another passenger on their flight having tested positive.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459

    From the Guardian


    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    elbowloh said:



    This is basically a type of diversity intervention that the Tories hate so much.

    It's also bollocks. Museum trustees and chairmen often seem to be Tory donors and mates of Tories.
    Another bleeding heart liberal appointed to chair a major cultural institution.

    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/24/ex-chancellor-george-osborne-appointed-chair-british-museum
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  • kingstongraham
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    elbowloh said:

    elbowloh said:



    This is basically a type of diversity intervention that the Tories hate so much.

    It's also bollocks. Museum trustees and chairmen often seem to be Tory donors and mates of Tories.
    Another bleeding heart liberal appointed to chair a major cultural institution.

    https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/jun/24/ex-chancellor-george-osborne-appointed-chair-british-museum
    Glad they've avoided appointing one of those metropolitan elites.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,660


    This is about 4 years old and I think was fake
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    pangolin said:


    This is about 4 years old and I think was fake
    You know when I said this thread looks like a boomer Facebook page and everyone got arseache?