The Irony Thread
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Yeah the alleged phone hacking and the fake photos, the glaring hypocrisy, and the bullying of panellists and invited guests are stains on his character. It doesn't mean he's wrong about Megan Markle though does it?kingstongraham said:
Nope. But if you employ a drama queen, occasionally you have to expect it.pblakeney said:
There's the thing though. Are the brand really surprised that he came out with it?kingstongraham said:
If he'd let out a string of expletives when interviewing the health secretary, that would generally be thought to be unacceptable behaviour, despite everything. There are limits to what is acceptable on breakfast TV, surely.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Apparently deciding with no evidence that someone is lying about their mental health issues, and doing it so aggressively crossed a line for ITV at the moment. Probably to do with their campaign with Mind. The message "I don't know you, I don't like you, when you say you had suicidal thoughts, I don't believe you" clearly doesn't fit the brand.
It is pretty much the kind of thing he'd be hired for. Same with JC, or any other of that ilk.
FWIW, I don't believe her either but me being cancelled wouldn't register.
He never apologised for those fake photos.
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Yeah and he's had the courage of his convictions and walked out (or refused to apologise and was sacked - same difference). GMB will miss him more than he misses them. He doesn't need the money and someone else will sign him up in no time. I still don't like him if that helps?kingstongraham said:Morgan should have listened to this: "if you go on ... TV and do an explosive interview containing highly controversial opinions dressed up as facts, then don't be surprised if people challenge you on it."
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I honestly don't know, and the key point is neither does he.shortfall said:
Yeah the alleged phone hacking and the fake photos, the glaring hypocrisy, and the bullying of panellists and invited guests are stains on his character. It doesn't mean he's wrong about Megan Markle though does it?kingstongraham said:
Nope. But if you employ a drama queen, occasionally you have to expect it.pblakeney said:
There's the thing though. Are the brand really surprised that he came out with it?kingstongraham said:
If he'd let out a string of expletives when interviewing the health secretary, that would generally be thought to be unacceptable behaviour, despite everything. There are limits to what is acceptable on breakfast TV, surely.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Apparently deciding with no evidence that someone is lying about their mental health issues, and doing it so aggressively crossed a line for ITV at the moment. Probably to do with their campaign with Mind. The message "I don't know you, I don't like you, when you say you had suicidal thoughts, I don't believe you" clearly doesn't fit the brand.
It is pretty much the kind of thing he'd be hired for. Same with JC, or any other of that ilk.
FWIW, I don't believe her either but me being cancelled wouldn't register.
He never apologised for those fake photos.
Incredibly, he's lost his job for refusing to say "I don't know what was going on in someone else's head".0 -
The main one that I can't avoid is my local. It's a good proper pub that also happens to be his local. To be fair to him, when he's there, he's nowhere near as cocksure, mainly because the people he grew up with here won't take the nonsense from him. He has also on occasion bought me a beer whilst I was behind the bar, so he can't be all badbompington said:I have always avoided all outlets that actually feature Morgan, not for that reason specifically but it usually fits.
I suspect that it's all an act - the whole Morgan brand I mean, but I reckon this latest stunt belongs in that - and that it is in fact a case of a controversy-generating game put on by a fairly smart actor pretending to be a bell-end who, as it happens, is also a bell-end in real life.
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Exactly.kingstongraham said:
Nope. But if you employ a drama queen, occasionally you have to expect it.pblakeney said:
There's the thing though. Are the brand really surprised that he came out with it?kingstongraham said:
If he'd let out a string of expletives when interviewing the health secretary, that would generally be thought to be unacceptable behaviour, despite everything. There are limits to what is acceptable on breakfast TV, surely.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Apparently deciding with no evidence that someone is lying about their mental health issues, and doing it so aggressively crossed a line for ITV at the moment. Probably to do with their campaign with Mind. The message "I don't know you, I don't like you, when you say you had suicidal thoughts, I don't believe you" clearly doesn't fit the brand.
It is pretty much the kind of thing he'd be hired for. Same with JC, or any other of that ilk.
FWIW, I don't believe her either but me being cancelled wouldn't register.
He never apologised for those fake photos.
Leopards and all that.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You are.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Who gets to determine what is acceptable?"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Thanks for reiterating my point. 👏👏👏Stevo_666 said:
You are.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Who gets to determine what is acceptable?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
That's what I was trying to dopblakeney said:
Thanks for reiterating my point. 👏👏👏Stevo_666 said:
You are.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Who gets to determine what is acceptable? Just waiting for a few candidates to step forward... "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Seems to be his bosses in this instance.Stevo_666 said:
That's what I was trying to dopblakeney said:
Thanks for reiterating my point. 👏👏👏Stevo_666 said:
You are.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Who gets to determine what is acceptable? Just waiting for a few candidates to step forward...0 -
In that case, probably true. I meant generally.kingstongraham said:
Seems to be his bosses in this instance.Stevo_666 said:
That's what I was trying to dopblakeney said:
Thanks for reiterating my point. 👏👏👏Stevo_666 said:
You are.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Who gets to determine what is acceptable? Just waiting for a few candidates to step forward..."I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The woke supreme council.Stevo_666 said:
In that case, probably true. I meant generally.kingstongraham said:
Seems to be his bosses in this instance.Stevo_666 said:
That's what I was trying to dopblakeney said:
Thanks for reiterating my point. 👏👏👏Stevo_666 said:
You are.pblakeney said:
I'm not arguing with you, or your point, especially in this instance, but.... This whole "acceptable behaviour" thing is growing out of control. If I'm allowed to say that.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Who gets to determine what is acceptable? Just waiting for a few candidates to step forward...
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Look I know it's Toby Young AND Talk Radio all in one tweet which will be like Kryptonite in here, but I thought I'd give it an airing anyway. Hopefully it won't trigger too many people.0 -
Is that the guy from Balls of Steel?
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It is indeed.0
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D'ye reckon the bottom line on that screengrab is rather more significant than what one or other blether-merchant wants to spout to keep the ire-fire burning? Serving police officer arrested on suspicion of murder. Nasty stuff.0
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You don't think there's possibly another way to express some doubt over the details of the account. The Queen seems to have managed it in under 100 words and without stropping off like some moody teenager.shortfall said:
Yeah that about sums it up. He won't be short of offers and GMB ratings will tank. He's not on his own in not taking everything that comes out of Megan Markles mouth at face value. And just to reiterate, it really pains me to have to defend Piers Morgan, a man who I thoroughly dislike, but on this issue I think he's right.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Absolutely. The Queen is a class act. But Piers Morgan is a rentagob who was hired to boost ratings by expressing controversial opinions which is exactly what he has done, and since his departure shares in the company have dropped 4%. If reports are to be believed ITV boss Carolyn McColl came under pressure to act after a complaint from Meghan Markle and rather than stick up for free speech she instead demanded that Morgan make a public apology on air. To his lasting credit he appears to have told her to stick it up here ar.se.rjsterry said:
You don't think there's possibly another way to express some doubt over the details of the account. The Queen seems to have managed it in under 100 words and without stropping off like some moody teenager.shortfall said:
Yeah that about sums it up. He won't be short of offers and GMB ratings will tank. He's not on his own in not taking everything that comes out of Megan Markles mouth at face value. And just to reiterate, it really pains me to have to defend Piers Morgan, a man who I thoroughly dislike, but on this issue I think he's right.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.0 -
Then again, Morgan wasn't fired. He was asked to apologise, but decided to quit.shortfall said:
Look I know it's Toby Young AND Talk Radio all in one tweet which will be like Kryptonite in here, but I thought I'd give it an airing anyway. Hopefully it won't trigger too many people.0 -
Is the bar now so low that behaviour that would get my 9-year(old sent to her room is acceptable in a grown man on national television? It's not what he said it's the way he said it.shortfall said:
Absolutely. The Queen is a class act. But Piers Morgan is a rentagob who was hired to boost ratings by expressing controversial opinions which is exactly what he has done, and since his departure shares in the company have dropped 4%. If reports are to be believed ITV boss Carolyn McColl came under pressure to act after a complaint from Meghan Markle and rather than stick up for free speech she instead demanded that Morgan make a public apology on air. To his lasting credit he appears to have told her to stick it up here ar.se.rjsterry said:
You don't think there's possibly another way to express some doubt over the details of the account. The Queen seems to have managed it in under 100 words and without stropping off like some moody teenager.shortfall said:
Yeah that about sums it up. He won't be short of offers and GMB ratings will tank. He's not on his own in not taking everything that comes out of Megan Markles mouth at face value. And just to reiterate, it really pains me to have to defend Piers Morgan, a man who I thoroughly dislike, but on this issue I think he's right.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
Given your earlier comments about unsubstantiated claims, you seem quite partial in which you take as read and which you dispute. The Queen might be a class act at the diplomatic statement, but she seems less skilled at maintaining a healthy relationship with her children and that appears to have been repeated the next generation down.
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I've bolded the relevant bit for you.rjsterry said:
Given your earlier comments about unsubstantiated claims, you seem quite partial in which you take as read and which you dispute. The Queen might be a class act at the diplomatic statement, but she seems less skilled at maintaining a healthy relationship with her children and that appears to have been repeated the next generation down.shortfall said:
Absolutely. The Queen is a class act. But Piers Morgan is a rentagob who was hired to boost ratings by expressing controversial opinions which is exactly what he has done, and since his departure shares in the company have dropped 4%. If reports are to be believed ITV boss Carolyn McColl came under pressure to act after a complaint from Meghan Markle and rather than stick up for free speech she instead demanded that Morgan make a public apology on air. To his lasting credit he appears to have told her to stick it up here ar.se.rjsterry said:
You don't think there's possibly another way to express some doubt over the details of the account. The Queen seems to have managed it in under 100 words and without stropping off like some moody teenager.shortfall said:
Yeah that about sums it up. He won't be short of offers and GMB ratings will tank. He's not on his own in not taking everything that comes out of Megan Markles mouth at face value. And just to reiterate, it really pains me to have to defend Piers Morgan, a man who I thoroughly dislike, but on this issue I think he's right.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.
If reports are to be believed.
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It all feels very manufactured in the same way as Clarkson & co getting out of their BBC jobs then joining Prime for, presumably, a significant increase in salary.0
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I used to quite enjoy that show.kingstongraham said:Is that the guy from Balls of Steel?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
You still appear to be giving more credence to what is effectively pub gossip, but anyway. I think this has nothing to do with journalistic ideas of holding people to account and everything to do with one man's ego being incapable of accepting that someone had no interest in him.shortfall said:
I've bolded the relevant bit for you.rjsterry said:
Given your earlier comments about unsubstantiated claims, you seem quite partial in which you take as read and which you dispute. The Queen might be a class act at the diplomatic statement, but she seems less skilled at maintaining a healthy relationship with her children and that appears to have been repeated the next generation down.shortfall said:
Absolutely. The Queen is a class act. But Piers Morgan is a rentagob who was hired to boost ratings by expressing controversial opinions which is exactly what he has done, and since his departure shares in the company have dropped 4%. If reports are to be believed ITV boss Carolyn McColl came under pressure to act after a complaint from Meghan Markle and rather than stick up for free speech she instead demanded that Morgan make a public apology on air. To his lasting credit he appears to have told her to stick it up here ar.se.rjsterry said:
You don't think there's possibly another way to express some doubt over the details of the account. The Queen seems to have managed it in under 100 words and without stropping off like some moody teenager.shortfall said:
Yeah that about sums it up. He won't be short of offers and GMB ratings will tank. He's not on his own in not taking everything that comes out of Megan Markles mouth at face value. And just to reiterate, it really pains me to have to defend Piers Morgan, a man who I thoroughly dislike, but on this issue I think he's right.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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I don't think ITV were under pressure due to a complaint from Meghan ( which has not been proven). It's been widely reported that there was record number of complaints received from the public over his comments0
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I've said similar in a different thread. But I have a hard time imaging any brands wanting themselves associated with Piers. This is an issue for anyone wanting to appear on commercial media.
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I deliberately included the caveat "If reports are to be believed" to allow for the fact that they might be untrue, I can't be any fairer than that can I? Only Piers Morgan and his bosses know exactly what was discussed in the run up to his exit but we can all read between the lines and make educated guesses based on what we read and hear. If I am wrong about these events Im happy to stand corrected if shown to be so. And for the final time, I didn't hire Piers Morgan, I disagree with him on most things, and I dislike him as a presenter. However i find myself having to defend him if (as it appears) his bosses have caved in to pressure and tried to extract a grovelling apology from him for expressing a strongly held personal opinion, something he was specifically hired to do and for which he has been indulged by his bosses since he started there.rjsterry said:
You still appear to be giving more credence to what is effectively pub gossip, but anyway. I think this has nothing to do with journalistic ideas of holding people to account and everything to do with one man's ego being incapable of accepting that someone had no interest in him.shortfall said:
I've bolded the relevant bit for you.rjsterry said:
Given your earlier comments about unsubstantiated claims, you seem quite partial in which you take as read and which you dispute. The Queen might be a class act at the diplomatic statement, but she seems less skilled at maintaining a healthy relationship with her children and that appears to have been repeated the next generation down.shortfall said:
Absolutely. The Queen is a class act. But Piers Morgan is a rentagob who was hired to boost ratings by expressing controversial opinions which is exactly what he has done, and since his departure shares in the company have dropped 4%. If reports are to be believed ITV boss Carolyn McColl came under pressure to act after a complaint from Meghan Markle and rather than stick up for free speech she instead demanded that Morgan make a public apology on air. To his lasting credit he appears to have told her to stick it up here ar.se.rjsterry said:
You don't think there's possibly another way to express some doubt over the details of the account. The Queen seems to have managed it in under 100 words and without stropping off like some moody teenager.shortfall said:
Yeah that about sums it up. He won't be short of offers and GMB ratings will tank. He's not on his own in not taking everything that comes out of Megan Markles mouth at face value. And just to reiterate, it really pains me to have to defend Piers Morgan, a man who I thoroughly dislike, but on this issue I think he's right.kingstongraham said:
He listened to someone giving an account of their suicidal thoughts, and aggressively said he didn't believe a word of it. His network decided that was not something they wanted to be associated with, so he either accepted it was beyond what he can say on breakfast TV, or move on to somewhere that is acceptable behaviour.shortfall said:
Not sure I agree. He's entitled to disagree with Megan Markles accounts of her life in the Royal Family and if GMB demanded that he publicly apologise to her for saying so then it amounts to them silencing him, or at least on their platform. It will be their loss.kingstongraham said:
That's going all in on being a tvvat, saying something outrageous, facing the consequences of your actions, then complaining about being silenced. I'd expect nothing less.shortfall said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/14289939/piers-morgan-quit-gmb-refusing-apology-meghan/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
If the story is the Sun is true, GMB bosses asked him to make an on air apology to Megan Markle and he refused. I don't blame him.0 -
Anyway back to the irony thread. Me defending a man who I thoroughly dislike against a group of people who also dislike him as much as I do.2
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I've not been following the story, but for catching up on here.elbowloh said:
Then again, Morgan wasn't fired. He was asked to apologise, but decided to quit.shortfall said:
Look I know it's Toby Young AND Talk Radio all in one tweet which will be like Kryptonite in here, but I thought I'd give it an airing anyway. Hopefully it won't trigger too many people.
Sorry for asking, but do we know he could have carried on in the job having refused to apologise, or is this an assumption?"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
