Carlton Kirby

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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,227
    Wittermouth 'quoting' Irish proverbs to Sean Kelly. 😳 They can't be in the same room.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Robbie McEwen pissing on Carlton’s chips when he started wittering on about rain made my day.
  • webboo
    webboo Posts: 6,087
    Rob Hatch commentating on the Euro MTB’s was like listening to someone describing paint drying.
  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,151
    edited August 2022
    "Alexa, is Carlton Kirby a good commentator?"

    "Here's what I found on the web, according to Cycling News Dot Com, Carlton is a superb commentator"

    Look, now can this thread stop.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    For anyone who thinks the commentators are live at most races have a look at Matt Stephens on Instagram today calling the finish of the Tour of Denmark. He’s sat at a desk in his house, you can’t see the screen he’s looking at but from the angle of his head it’S pretty small, probably a laptop or computer monitor. He some races are still done from Bath or Chiswick but due to the number of races they cover these days a lot are done from home. They do a pretty good job considering they are seeing the same images as us and possibly on a smaller screen. Must make linking with a co-commentator quite difficult too.
  • webboo said:

    Rob Hatch commentating on the Euro MTB’s was like listening to someone describing paint drying.

    If it's choice of a paint dryer or a paint stripper, I'll take the paint dryer thank you very much.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    Kirby made the comment of how mush more peaceful the world is and then within 3 or 4 rambling sentences, started back tracking.
    Though I still prefer him to Hatch.
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,979
    edited August 2022

    webboo said:

    Rob Hatch commentating on the Euro MTB’s was like listening to someone describing paint drying.

    If it's choice of a paint dryer or a paint stripper, I'll take the paint dryer thank you very much.
    I was surprised to hear Hatch on the BBC commentary - never heard him on there before.

    Definitely prefer him on the road commentary, didn't come across as particularly at home with the content as it were.
    Still better than kirby of course.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    If he's pronouncing Søren Kragh Anderson as "Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson" then he's really gone off track. Though "Krauw" (to rhyme with cow) is probably closer than most English speaking commentators would get.
    Having heard how they mangle the extremely simple Cecilie (it's not Sessily, it's basically just Cecilia spelt slightly differently), I'm in favour of him making an effort.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    edited August 2022

    If he's pronouncing Søren Kragh Anderson as "Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson" then he's really gone off track. Though "Krauw" (to rhyme with cow) is probably closer than most English speaking commentators would get.
    Having heard how they mangle the extremely simple Cecilie (it's not Sessily, it's basically just Cecilia spelt slightly differently), I'm in favour of him making an effort.

    Søren is pronounced kind of like Sean but without the 'h' sound and Anderson has the 'h' sound? Is that right?

    Edit: And in a shameless attempt to drum up interest in the Tour de l'Avenir thread, your man Adam Holm Jørgensen is playing a bit of a blinder, winning yesterday and second today.
  • ddraver
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    I'n mewer svre wot Kommenbators are sposed to bo in fese Kazes?

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    DeadCalm said:

    If he's pronouncing Søren Kragh Anderson as "Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson" then he's really gone off track. Though "Krauw" (to rhyme with cow) is probably closer than most English speaking commentators would get.
    Having heard how they mangle the extremely simple Cecilie (it's not Sessily, it's basically just Cecilia spelt slightly differently), I'm in favour of him making an effort.

    Søren is pronounced kind of like Sean but without the 'h' sound and Anderson has the 'h' sound? Is that right?

    Edit: And in a shameless attempt to drum up interest in the Tour de l'Avenir thread, your man Adam Holm Jørgensen is playing a bit of a blinder, winning yesterday and second today.
    As ever, saiklist_help on twitter is the go to - far easier than trying to explain!



    I've not been watching l'Avenir, but I have been trying to follow (mainly thanks to your thread)
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited August 2022
    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318

    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
    Like Paul Sherwin struggling with Giuseppe Guerini. No thanks. You can have good commentary without being OTT.
    Robbie McEwan and Blythe are good but they are still 'assistant's' rather than main.

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  • pinno said:

    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
    Like Paul Sherwin struggling with Giuseppe Guerini. No thanks. You can have good commentary without being OTT.
    Robbie McEwan and Blythe are good but they are still 'assistant's' rather than main.

    If you think Hatch is bad, I hope for your sake you don't ever get to hear Jose Been commentating. Her pronunciation is in a different league and she's Dutch to boot.

    Not sure how you differentiate between an epic and legendary Hatch and a fantastic and fabulous Kirby. Cos that's the sort of garbage he comes out with to describe the blandest of sprint finishes.
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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    But what sprint finish on a bland flat stage isn't... bland? I watched the last 5 mins of stages 2 & 3 of La Vuelta and the last 5 mins of each stage of the tour of Denmark 'cos flat stages and sprint finishes (without a decent cross wind) are f.ucking boring. Maybe there's instructions to try and lively up flat stages for drama and viewing figures.

    ...and Jose Been is a bit bland and boring.

    No point arguing. This is entirely subjective.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
    Like Paul Sherwin struggling with Giuseppe Guerini. No thanks. You can have good commentary without being OTT.
    Robbie McEwan and Blythe are good but they are still 'assistant's' rather than main.

    If you think Hatch is bad, I hope for your sake you don't ever get to hear Jose Been commentating. Her pronunciation is in a different league and she's Dutch to boot.

    Not sure how you differentiate between an epic and legendary Hatch and a fantastic and fabulous Kirby. Cos that's the sort of garbage he comes out with to describe the blandest of sprint finishes.
    I suspect the success of Kirby has meant bigging up races is Eurosport policy…
  • pinno said:

    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
    Like Paul Sherwin struggling with Giuseppe Guerini. No thanks. You can have good commentary without being OTT.
    Robbie McEwan and Blythe are good but they are still 'assistant's' rather than main.

    If you think Hatch is bad, I hope for your sake you don't ever get to hear Jose Been commentating. Her pronunciation is in a different league and she's Dutch to boot.

    Not sure how you differentiate between an epic and legendary Hatch and a fantastic and fabulous Kirby. Cos that's the sort of garbage he comes out with to describe the blandest of sprint finishes.
    I suspect the success of Kirby has meant bigging up races is Eurosport policy…
    Me too, since they all do it.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
    Like Paul Sherwin struggling with Giuseppe Guerini. No thanks. You can have good commentary without being OTT.
    Robbie McEwan and Blythe are good but they are still 'assistant's' rather than main.

    If you think Hatch is bad, I hope for your sake you don't ever get to hear Jose Been commentating. Her pronunciation is in a different league and she's Dutch to boot.

    Not sure how you differentiate between an epic and legendary Hatch and a fantastic and fabulous Kirby. Cos that's the sort of garbage he comes out with to describe the blandest of sprint finishes.
    I suspect the success of Kirby has meant bigging up races is Eurosport policy…
    Lloyd tends to say it as it is, he pretty much said on Sunday that the stage was likely to be pretty dull.

    It's like chalk and cheese when Lloyd takes over from Kirby. You'd think they were commentating on completely different races. Lloyd seems to just be far more relaxed and not talk for the sake of it whilst not leaving any gaps in the coverage.
  • Pross said:

    pinno said:

    pinno said:

    daniel_b said:


    Still better than kirby of course.

    If you prefer that nauseating attempt to pronounce all things foreign in an accentuated foreign accent and trying to make every event legendary, epic.
    'It will go down in the annals of history... we'll be talking about this for years to come... blah blah bollox'.

    Steven Kkkkreisvykxkxkx
    Stefan Krauwggggkgg Anderson etc
    To the ear, he's like the sharp side of a scouse cheese grater on methyl amphetamines.

    We want Brexit commentary where we deliberately don’t try to do things accurately and things were always better back in the day.

    🙄🙄
    Like Paul Sherwin struggling with Giuseppe Guerini. No thanks. You can have good commentary without being OTT.
    Robbie McEwan and Blythe are good but they are still 'assistant's' rather than main.

    If you think Hatch is bad, I hope for your sake you don't ever get to hear Jose Been commentating. Her pronunciation is in a different league and she's Dutch to boot.

    Not sure how you differentiate between an epic and legendary Hatch and a fantastic and fabulous Kirby. Cos that's the sort of garbage he comes out with to describe the blandest of sprint finishes.
    I suspect the success of Kirby has meant bigging up races is Eurosport policy…
    Lloyd tends to say it as it is, he pretty much said on Sunday that the stage was likely to be pretty dull.

    It's like chalk and cheese when Lloyd takes over from Kirby. You'd think they were commentating on completely different races. Lloyd seems to just be far more relaxed and not talk for the sake of it whilst not leaving any gaps in the coverage.
    Case in point happening right now on the Vuelta coverage. Just swapped from the sublime to the ridiculous.
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  • Of all his idiot phrases that he continually parrots (and there's a lot), I've found that it's his "playing with" that REALLY grates.

    Like the riders are a bunch of kids out on their BMXs
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Some of the reporters interviewing riders at the stage start and finish for Eurosport are terrible. I don’t know if it is because English isn’t their first language but they ask some really stupid questions. I can’t remember what Sam Bennett got asked the other day but after trying to work it out gave a pretty abrupt no and walked away.
  • Kirby on today’s stage: He didn’t have a clue where they were on the course or where Soler was in relation to the breakaway.
    You know, minor unimportant stuff.

    Still, he can tell you all about a mountain retreat in his make up as I go along style.
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  • abedfo88
    abedfo88 Posts: 25
    Pross said:

    Some of the reporters interviewing riders at the stage start and finish for Eurosport are terrible. I don’t know if it is because English isn’t their first language but they ask some really stupid questions. I can’t remember what Sam Bennett got asked the other day but after trying to work it out gave a pretty abrupt no and walked away.

    This is spot on, the interviewer really comes out with some word salad. It must be hard for those with English with a 2nd language to answer. Cringe.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,318
    What's with Tao Geoghegan Hart - I mean, is he clinically depressed? Interviews are voluntary so I don't know why he's doing them.

    https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/vuelta-a-espana/2022/your-flies-are-undone-tao-geoghegan-hart-pauses-interview-to-warn-reporter-at-la-vuelta_vid1735814/video.shtml
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  • pinno said:

    What's with Tao Geoghegan Hart - I mean, is he clinically depressed? Interviews are voluntary so I don't know why he's doing them.

    https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/vuelta-a-espana/2022/your-flies-are-undone-tao-geoghegan-hart-pauses-interview-to-warn-reporter-at-la-vuelta_vid1735814/video.shtml

    Not sure publically speculating on people’s mental health is a good thing
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited August 2022

    pinno said:

    What's with Tao Geoghegan Hart - I mean, is he clinically depressed? Interviews are voluntary so I don't know why he's doing them.

    https://www.eurosport.co.uk/cycling/vuelta-a-espana/2022/your-flies-are-undone-tao-geoghegan-hart-pauses-interview-to-warn-reporter-at-la-vuelta_vid1735814/video.shtml

    Not sure publically speculating on people’s mental health is a good thing

    It's not, but it's OK pointing out that this is the bleakest interview that most of us have seen and wanting to give him a hug and say it's OK Tao. We really don't know what might be happening in rider's lives outside cycling. The question is why did he do the interview? Was he pressured?
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    Isn't he just knackered ?
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  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 584
    The interview with Arensman at the finish was awful. The guy just kept asking the same question about the decision to drop out of the break. Arensman answered, ok maybe in an official line way. But interviewer was really annoying as he repeatedly went on about it. I wanted to tell him to shut up so goodness knows how the riders must feel at the end of a long difficult day.