Orange Hate

misinformer

roverpig wrote:

Northwind wrote:

I like you. I'm going to kidnap you and keep you in a cellar, harvest your blood, put it in a centrifuge, collect the common sense ichor that settles on the top and inject it into stupid people. I'm sure you realise it's for the best.

That's very kind, but I'm afraid that a lot of people are after my blood, so you'll need to get in line

To be fair to Orange owners, it is hard to stay rational when somebody insults your pride and joy and seems to imply that you were an idiot for buying it. It's not only Orange riders who have an irrational attachment to their bikes either. Reading forums it seems as though almost anybody with a new bike thinks it's the best thing ever and whatever type or riding you do or wherever you ride you should buy what they bought. That's great really. I'm glad they enjoy their bikes and it supports my basic thesis, which is that the Five is a great trail bike. It's not the only great trail bike. It may not even be the only great UK made trail bike (especially if the rumours about Cotic moving some production back to the UK are to be believed). But it is a great trail bike.

If we accept that there are lots of great trail bikes out there and few of us have the time or inclination to test them all, then how are you supposed to narrow down the field? Starting with things that are made (or at least designed) in your home country seems a good a way as any to me. You could equally well start with a list of bikes that come in the colour you like best, or look at what your mates are riding, or pour through spec sheets and try to find the ones that seem to offer the best value for money. But I'm not sure why the latter is considered to be the only rational approach.

PS. Isn't ichor supposed to be poisonous to mortals? Or was that part of your plan

It doesn't matter where its made or who by according to some. Even if rumours were true and that sounds like complete and utter tosh ,quite why a little micro brand company could or would even consider or achieve it is implauasable ,

It wouldn't make one iota of difference would it?, I suppose the incidence of fanboys cutting and copying the press release now that their far eastern tat is now absolutely ace because its made here will double on the forums though.

Will that make it as good as before then or just prove it was crap to begin with.

ACE :roll:

Northwind

misinformer wrote:

Exactly how many press releases can you cut copy and paste on a brand owners behalf.

Are you feeling quite alright? It's just that you seem to be spouting absolute pish

misinformer

Northwind wrote:

misinformer wrote:

Exactly how many press releases can you cut copy and paste on a brand owners behalf.

Are you feeling quite alright? It's just that you seem to be spouting absolute pish

Yeah I just need to google Northwind and Cotic

Holy cow I just did your like a 13 year old girl and Justin Bieber, Holy crap forum after forum of it I hope you never try crack chap, your addicted, I thought the only time you saw denial on this scale was before coming out.

In fact is this like the On One Guy you say his name three times and he snake charms you over on his buddies forum only in your case everytime the C word is mentioned you appear.

Genius

Matt-r8

Think you two need to meet for a Coffee. Let us know when and where, I'd like to watch!

mike hunts alpine

And in the red corner weighing 185 pounds .....

misinformer

mike hunts alpine wrote:

And in the red corner weighing 185 pounds .....

I'm sure theres a Charge fanboy and a several Santa Cruz fanboys and on and on....head on over to MTBR where things get way more out of hand than the UK bike brand luv-ins they seem to subdivide the cattle over there though.

mike hunts alpine

I just took the advise of take it with a pinch of salt. However annoying the same people popping up with same comments on every orange thread on the site is. Ive built my bridge and got well over it.

misinformer

mike hunts alpine wrote:

I just took the advise of take it with a pinch of salt. However annoying the same people popping up with same comments on every orange thread on the site is. Ive built my bridge and got well over it.

Don't blame you chap, if you ever tried to get anything manufactured, or into production here you realise they did a grand job getting product out the door instead of buy and sell on fan base .I haven't ever really posted on a forum related to bikes but agree ,same names, same jibes, If it happened in the workplace it would be classed as bullying but on a forum it is light hearted banter.

Matt-r8

I just tend to look at the negative comments, then the profile of who posted said comment and see what they ride. Usually draw a conclusion from that. I can't imagine many people out on the trail coming up and telling me how crap my bike is, or how it sounds like a sack of spanners. I'd be up for a discussion if they actually had informed views and probably agree with them on some things. But if they were just being a c&@t, I'm not sure they'd appreciate my response.

mike hunts alpine

But most bikes with no clutch mech will make a racket so I don't get where the spanners one comes from :?
Mine has clutch and is as silent as can be the noisiest thing are my tires when rolling. So where this substantiates from is beyond me. This is not something that is going to just be on oranges so ....

mike hunts alpine

Matt-r8 wrote:

I just tend to look at the negative comments, then the profile of who posted said comment and see what they ride. Usually draw a conclusion from that. I can't imagine many people out on the trail coming up and telling me how crap my bike is, or how it sounds like a sack of spanners. I'd be up for a discussion if they actually had informed views and probably agree with them on some things. But if they were just being a c&@t, I'm not sure they'd appreciate my response.

With you on being a cunt is being a cunt which is a bit childish when the comments like that get made, its frustrating but on a fucks given basis I'm at 0% and don't think I'm going to any time soon. So they can waste there time

Northwind

misinformer wrote:

Yeah I just need to google Northwind and Cotic

And you found how many examples of me cutting and copying press releases, exactly? Oh, zero?

You are exactly this complicated:

Anyone that likes a bike you don't like must be a fanboi. And if loads of people like that bike, they must all be fanbois. Half the bike press? Fanbois. You don't give any reasons why you think they're wrong, though.

Meanwhile, anyone that criticises a bike you like must be a h8er. Even if they also like that bike and are just realistic about it. Course, you don't actually address any of their criticisms.

I'm kind of on the fence as to whether this is all some bizarre troll, since it's hard to see how you could so perfectly fit the archetype otherwise.

cycleclinic

I have owned and riden an Orange EVO2 for 10 years now. It is my main MTB and it will be until the frame dies. I love it. Looking through this thread I do wonder why people can hate a brand so much I have much better things to do with my time than hate a group of people or a entire brand.

Would I buy another - I do not need too so I won't.

welshkev

misinformer wrote:

[, If it happened in the workplace it would be classed as bullying but on a forum it is light hearted banter.

wtf has that got to do with posting on a forum? would a discussion down the pub (albeit heated possibly) be bullying as well? :roll:

[quote="misinformer
I'm sure theres a Charge fanboy and a several Santa Cruz fanboys and on and on.....[/quote]

santa cruz you say? well mine is awesome

cooldad

welshkev wrote:

misinformer wrote:

[, If it happened in the workplace it would be classed as bullying but on a forum it is light hearted banter.

wtf has that got to do with posting on a forum? would a discussion down the pub (albeit heated possibly) be bullying as well? :roll:

misinformer wrote:

I'm sure theres a Charge fanboy and a several Santa Cruz fanboys and on and on.....

santa cruz you say? well mine is awesome

Suppose it depends whether you glass him or not.

Thewaylander

It's wales, just stick in a field of sheep on the hills with out wellies :P

rockmonkeysc

They lied! The Orange 322 is back for 2014
http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/322_frame/
£2000 for a very outdated design. Shop around and you can get a complete Specialized Status (very good bike) for less than that. I have seen Davinci Wilson carbon frames for under £2k recently and that's with the Cane Creek shock.

97th choice

misinformer wrote:

Northwind wrote:

misinformer wrote:

Exactly how many press releases can you cut copy and paste on a brand owners behalf.

Are you feeling quite alright? It's just that you seem to be spouting absolute pish

Yeah I just need to google Northwind and Cotic

Holy cow I just did your like a 13 year old girl and Justin Bieber, Holy crap forum after forum of it I hope you never try crack chap, your addicted, I thought the only time you saw denial on this scale was before coming out.

In fact is this like the On One Guy you say his name three times and he snake charms you over on his buddies forum only in your case everytime the C word is mentioned you appear.

Genius

You're actually googling someone on here? That's kind of an obsessive epic fail dude.

supersonic

Do I really need to lock this and/or get the ban stick out?

Behave people!

misinformer

97th choice wrote:

misinformer wrote:

Northwind wrote:

misinformer wrote:

Exactly how many press releases can you cut copy and paste on a brand owners behalf.

Are you feeling quite alright? It's just that you seem to be spouting absolute pish

Yeah I just need to google Northwind and Cotic

Holy cow I just did your like a 13 year old girl and Justin Bieber, Holy crap forum after forum of it I hope you never try crack chap, your addicted, I thought the only time you saw denial on this scale was before coming out.

In fact is this like the On One Guy you say his name three times and he snake charms you over on his buddies forum only in your case everytime the C word is mentioned you appear.

Genius

You're actually googling someone on here? That's kind of an obsessive epic fail dude.

No Coco (thats a clown by the way) but as someone goes on more than one forum ,I just choose not to post on them you will find the same names, no need to google at all but if others do because of it then hey make your own opinion.

As for using the word fail in a sentence let alone epic and dude in the same sentence my heart goes out to you in your attempts to either become American or a Ninja turtle

supersonic

Last warning. If anymore insults are directed at other members in this thread, the perpetrator will be banned.

misinformer

supersonic wrote:

Last warning. If anymore insults are directed at other members in this thread, the perpetrator will be banned.

Feel free chap ,I had no real desire to get sucked in to posting , but you and your buddies enjoy yourself.....and the awesome power you have to turn an account off

supersonic

It's directed at everyone. Quit the sarcasm.

welshkev

misinformer wrote:

supersonic wrote:

Last warning. If anymore insults are directed at other members in this thread, the perpetrator will be banned.

Feel free chap ,I had no real desire to get sucked in to posting , but you and your buddies enjoy yourself.....and the awesome power you have to turn an account off

So why are you continuing to post? I know, I'll join a forum to not post on it :roll:

97th choice

misinformer wrote:

Feel free chap ,I had no real desire to get sucked in to posting , but you and your buddies enjoy yourself.....and the awesome power you have to turn an account off

Can you overcome that burning desire to get the last word in, well, can you?

supersonic

I always get the last word.

nicklouse

mmm Sure.