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  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    FransJacques wrote:
    I showed up a bit late so did 3x the outer gravel circle of RP to keep the legs going. Very boring on a cross bike let alone the MTBs that people invariably ride there.

    On a cross bike it's not bad actually... it's boring when you have to slow down every minute to give way to a loose dog, but if you go early it's quite fun, coming down the hill especially.

    And if you're training for racing there're plenty of stumps slightly off line that you can use to practise your dismount and remounts :)
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Anyone wants to go out this saturday or you're all already in shopping & turkey mode?
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  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Anyone wants to go out this saturday or you're all already in shopping & turkey mode?

    Sorry, will be doing some cross across the middle of the Isle of Wight.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Anyone wants to go out this saturday or you're all already in shopping & turkey mode?
    Kids are out for the night. There is no way I'm getting up early tomorrow.
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  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    I've got another dinghy race planned ...
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    right, so that's me and myself then...

    Looks cold, might go out early for 3 off road laps of the park before it gets infested with pooing dogs.
    Targeting 80 minutes... :shock:
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  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    Sorry Ugo, new bambina born this week so lots of baby/mom action to take care of.

    I'd like to get out every 2-3 weeks once things settle down.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Two laps only... 54 minutes... I was on track, then I got a bit cold and demotivated.
    Two merino base layers are worse than one merino only, interesting... :roll:
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    FransJacques wrote:
    Sorry Ugo, new bambina born this week so lots of baby/mom action to take care of.

    I'd like to get out every 2-3 weeks once things settle down.

    Congratulations to you all. Forget about the bike for a while, any spare time you get you'll be better off sleeping!

    (I managed to ride into a parked car on my first ride after my eldest was born, such was my sleep deprived state).
  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    FransJacques wrote:
    Sorry Ugo, new bambina born this week so lots of baby/mom action to take care of.

    I'd like to get out every 2-3 weeks once things settle down.

    While I agree to an extent with Andyp about getting sleep (had our 2nd just three weeks ago so I know exactly where you're at) I am finding that I come back home energized after a ride so it helps me. Maybe just don't do any intense rides and use this time to work on your base ;)
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    Hello all - congrats to all with new babies etc - ours is 4 months and still waking 3 times a night (which admittedly is more of a problem for his breast-feeding mother than me....).

    I'm very much up for this and will keep an eye out for rides - I'm doing a ridiculous riding to Brighton challenge (done the cross bike already) - http://www.12on12in12.blogspot.co.uk but defo up for some motivational winter riding!

    Will keep an eye out.
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  • VamP
    VamP Posts: 674
    Brilliant! We can turn this into a recent fathers thread :)

    Ours is just over six weeks, and at the risk of jinxing it, has been amazing thus far. So far I am keeping up my weekly races quota, and have been able to safeguard the fitness somewhat at least.

    She's coming with us to the Regionals at Ipswich in two weeks time, anyone else riding that?

    Congrats all us new dads!
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    All these babies born in cross season, what were you guys thinking of?!

    (Says someone with two daughters with birthdays coming up next month).
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    Not great timing by VamP and I, but c'est la vie. It was cool that VamP's partner and my partner caught up during Welwyn and compared pregnancy notes as we duked it out on the course.

    A newborn didn't stop a certain Mr Webber from winning the LL in 2011-2012 which is incredible. I've not trained nor raced since Welwyn sadly, too much flat pack and throwing out of stuff to get done. VamP you're a true renaissance man to be able to father kids and race at the same time - hats off!
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    Rats! I was going to get out this coming weekend, I had it all planned my parents were taking my daughter up to a course at the Tate and my son was going paintballing with his mates. Now my parents have to go to a funeral on Saturday so my wife has suggested we take our daughter up to the Tate and then go into town for a few hours on our own. I can't really say no as it's rare to get time like that without the kids in tow. Who has a funeral on a Saturday? How inconsiderate.
    And it's my daughter's birthday on the 14th December so I can't go out then. I'll really have to make an effort to get out on the 7th. But I'm supposed to be out drinking on the 6th and I struggle to keep up without a hangover. I think I will have to skip the drinking.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Following the diversion,
    Not quite sure I am keeping up with modern times.
    As a young boy and then a teenager I didn't want to be seen anywhere near my parents. Weekends were spent playing outdoor with friends in summer and playing indoor in winter. Later it was hidden fags and alcohol, snogging girls and watching porn at friends houses.
    That made me into a rather normal human being by many standards, maybe not all.
    And that was just as well, as my dad was into mountaineering and certainly would not have swapped his climbs and later walks to take me to a class or to a football match... he would take me to the mountains when I was old enough not to be a PITA, but by then I was more into the fags and snogs etc, so the window has been limited.

    What's this modern parents frenzy of keeping their offspring constantly entertained and busy... I don't get it???
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  • VamP
    VamP Posts: 674
    FransJacques wrote:
    It was cool that VamP's partner and my partner caught up during Welwyn and compared pregnancy notes as we duked it out on the course.

    That was in fact really cool!

    In answer to andyp question I think it's obvious. We are selfishly singleminded in the cross season, and then repay our partners in spades when it finishes. Hence all the birth timings :wink:


    Works well for me, my partner is the same about her eventing, and as the two seasons don't overlap, we have happiness :D

    I'm not sure whether being a renaissance man is a good thing or not, so I'll keep schtum on that one...
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    What's this modern parents frenzy of keeping their offspring constantly entertained and busy... I don't get it???
    I think people do ferry their kids around a lot more than they used to. Believe it or not I try not to do it too much.
    I tend to drive him to school before they set out for a rugby match on a Saturday as it's an early start and my wife takes pity on him. So I drive him to get a quiet life. I sometimes leave him to cycle, but he struggles with the ride back if it's a hard game.
    My daughter doesn't usually need as much ferrying around the place. But she's nearly 12 so this will change in the next couple of years no doubt.
    They are generally good kids and helpful so I don't mind doing it. But they know that if they take the mick and push their luck in other areas they will lose out. They know it's give and take from both sides, not we give and they take. I'm happier having them on side and knowing what they are up to.
    A bit more time to myself would be nice, but I generally enjoy doing stuff with the family.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    Veronese68 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    What's this modern parents frenzy of keeping their offspring constantly entertained and busy... I don't get it???
    I think people do ferry their kids around a lot more than they used to. Believe it or not I try not to do it too much.
    I tend to drive him to school before they set out for a rugby match on a Saturday as it's an early start and my wife takes pity on him. So I drive him to get a quiet life. I sometimes leave him to cycle, but he struggles with the ride back if it's a hard game.
    My daughter doesn't usually need as much ferrying around the place. But she's nearly 12 so this will change in the next couple of years no doubt.
    They are generally good kids and helpful so I don't mind doing it. But they know that if they take the mick and push their luck in other areas they will lose out. They know it's give and take from both sides, not we give and they take. I'm happier having them on side and knowing what they are up to.
    A bit more time to myself would be nice, but I generally enjoy doing stuff with the family.

    In a city I suppose it's inevitable to do a bit of chaffeuring, everything is far away..
    My point is more how entertainment has to be arranged and organised and supervised by adults. As a kid I never took part in anything that was organised... I was forced to go to "catechism" with the priests, but I hated of course... anything else was me and my local friends playing with our bicycles, roaming in the local woodland, occasionally playing with Lego... I can't recall ever taking classes or lessons of anything that wasn't school. Not sure why these days kids can't just play football or else with other local kids in the local green area... they have to be structured into a team with rules, health and safety, adults everywhere... I think it's wrong... I quote the Pink Floyd "leave those kids alone!"
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  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Veronese68 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    What's this modern parents frenzy of keeping their offspring constantly entertained and busy... I don't get it???
    I think people do ferry their kids around a lot more than they used to. Believe it or not I try not to do it too much.
    I tend to drive him to school before they set out for a rugby match on a Saturday as it's an early start and my wife takes pity on him. So I drive him to get a quiet life. I sometimes leave him to cycle, but he struggles with the ride back if it's a hard game.
    My daughter doesn't usually need as much ferrying around the place. But she's nearly 12 so this will change in the next couple of years no doubt.
    They are generally good kids and helpful so I don't mind doing it. But they know that if they take the mick and push their luck in other areas they will lose out. They know it's give and take from both sides, not we give and they take. I'm happier having them on side and knowing what they are up to.
    A bit more time to myself would be nice, but I generally enjoy doing stuff with the family.

    In a city I suppose it's inevitable to do a bit of chaffeuring, everything is far away..
    My point is more how entertainment has to be arranged and organised and supervised by adults. As a kid I never took part in anything that was organised... I was forced to go to "catechism" with the priests, but I hated of course... anything else was me and my local friends playing with our bicycles, roaming in the local woodland, occasionally playing with Lego... I can't recall ever taking classes or lessons of anything that wasn't school. Not sure why these days kids can't just play football or else with other local kids in the local green area... they have to be structured into a team with rules, health and safety, adults everywhere... I think it's wrong... I quote the Pink Floyd "leave those kids alone!"

    As you say Paolo, it's different in a city. Remember traffic has increased, sense of community has decreased, paedophiles are everywhere (daily mail fact) and green spaces have all been built on. It's tough being a modern parent.....personally if we're all getting our kids to be active I don't think it matters how we do it so long as it gets done. Teaching kids independence comes in a lot of different forms.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    I think they tend to be older when they are let loose more. I worry about my son at times, but he's pretty sensible and he's big enugh to look after himself. I worry a lot more about my daughter, I suspect all dads do this, but she is younger than him.
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  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    I really hope cycling will my salvation with my little one from a fitness standpoint. Granted by the time she's 9-10 she'll rather hang out with friends (dad won't be cool any more) but I hope i can start off her interest in 2 wheels or at least fitness and being outdoors rather than surgically attached to some kind of screen. Which will be the future. No devices, just interactive touch screens everywhere.

    Some of my clubmates are really inspiring- their daughters ride the U10 or U12 cross races then wait around to watch dad. One has a daughter who bugs him to take to see the pros at Koksijde, and she's 12! Another (daughter again) is a track nut and bugs her dad to drive her every Saturday from deepest Bexlwy to HH for the training. Amazing.
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  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    FransJacques wrote:
    I really hope cycling will my salvation with my little one from a fitness standpoint. Granted by the time she's 9-10 she'll rather hang out with friends (dad won't be cool any more) but I hope i can start off her interest in 2 wheels or at least fitness and being outdoors rather than surgically attached to some kind of screen. Which will be the future. No devices, just interactive touch screens everywhere.

    Some of my clubmates are really inspiring- their daughters ride the U10 or U12 cross races then wait around to watch dad. One has a daughter who bugs him to take to see the pros at Koksijde, and she's 12! Another (daughter again) is a track nut and bugs her dad to drive her every Saturday from deepest Bexlwy to HH for the training. Amazing.

    Am in the same boat mate. Was so keen I got my first daughter a balance bike for her 1st birthday, problem is she is tiny so at 2 and a half she is just now big enough to give it a go. She was towed around Richmond Park in a trailer all summer of 2011 as I trained for my first Etape and now loves being in the bike seat and her new sister will replace her in the trailer. I'm not going to force her but hopefully seeing daddy race and getting the family out into the woods on weekends will help them stay active. Good luck for the long term
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    My youngest got a proper CX bike (with drop bars) for her 6th birthday, and she loves it almost as much as she loves Wiggo. Most kids want to do what their parents do; I reckon they key is just to be a decent role model, and then give them lots of opportunities to get out on the bike without being pushy...
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  • PuttyKnees
    PuttyKnees Posts: 381
    I think it's the other way round. Dads and Mums are inspired to ride and race after watching their kids race. That's what seems to happen around here! *CX can't be that hard, look Jimmy from Acacia Ave. does it!* *Splat*
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    Just thinking:

    It will probably be as dry and warm this weekend as it will ever be this weekend for the rest of 2013: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/sw19

    Anyone fancy a Sunday morning ride - 3 hours should do it for me personally. Starting 9am or 8:30 if it's a deal breaker.

    I'm not allowed to race cross due to new baby but somehow training rides are ok. Seems weird logic but 1 hour races do seem to take the whole fricken day, which threatens a call to the divorce lawyers...
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    I signed up for a bit of road riding to Zappi's cafe in Oxford...
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  • mzm70
    mzm70 Posts: 123
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I signed up for a bit of road riding to Zappi's cafe in Oxford...
    You going on Nick's ride on Sunday Paolo?
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    mzm70 wrote:
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    I signed up for a bit of road riding to Zappi's cafe in Oxford...
    You going on Nick's ride on Sunday Paolo?

    Yep...
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  • cyclingsheep
    cyclingsheep Posts: 640
    FransJacques wrote:
    Just thinking:

    It will probably be as dry and warm this weekend as it will ever be this weekend for the rest of 2013: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/sw19

    Anyone fancy a Sunday morning ride - 3 hours should do it for me personally. Starting 9am or 8:30 if it's a deal breaker.

    I'm not allowed to race cross due to new baby but somehow training rides are ok. Seems weird logic but 1 hour races do seem to take the whole fricken day, which threatens a call to the divorce lawyers...

    Haha, my wife was the same. It was due to the time it'd take to get back for her. I can't do Sunday but could do tomorrow? My wife is having her first post baby drinks tomorrow so I suspect Sunday would not be a day to leave her with 2 under threes :)

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