TDF 2013 - Stage 10 *Spoiler*

mididoctors

Macaloon wrote:

Are Sky pulling for sprinter's teams in return for future stage favours? Or are they just nice guys?

"sigh"

the yellow jersey team ride as hard enough to make the stage winnable so the sprinters take over late-earlier depending on the time gap from the jersey to the riders in the break on GC

ddraver

mididoctors wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

ATC's Random Breton Guide



Apparently Brittany has had human inhabitants since the Lower Paleolithic era. The first settlers were Neanderthals who were later to be replaced by homo sapiens who developed large-scale primitive industries. After the last ice age and when Brittany became heavily forested large communities began to establish themselves before migrants coming from the Mediterranean and further east introduced agriculture. As these agricultural practices were slowly absorbed into the communities already living in Brittany, Brittany became a core area of megalithic culture. There are many monuments to this important period in Brittany’s history, the most famous of which is of course Carnac, a series of standing stones which includes the Broken Menhir of Er Grah in Locmariaquer which is the largest ever stone erection by Neolithic man. No laughing at the back.

actually [pedant]the current thinking on carnac is they are mesolithic and are a response to neolithic cultural invasion..an attempt to assert control of the landscape against those that would farm it.. the time period for construction places them in a transitionary period[/pedant]

Further - would nt it be more accurate to say that Brittany has evidence of palaeolithic habitation? I find it hard to believe that Brittany had settlers and the Languedoc had settlers but that there were none in between. More likely that the evidence for the inhabitants of Mid France has been destroyed? Dunno - maybe I'm being too geological, this is like reading yesterdays newspaper for me...

above_the_cows

We did not have soldiers or a tank on the I Spy list did we?

mididoctors

ie; if the highest guy in the break is 30mins down on GC they wont ride that hard BUT otoh etc.

Paul 8v

Above The Cows wrote:

ATC's Random Breton Guide



Apparently Brittany has had human inhabitants since the Lower Paleolithic era. The first settlers were Neanderthals who were later to be replaced by homo sapiens who developed large-scale primitive industries. After the last ice age and when Brittany became heavily forested large communities began to establish themselves before migrants coming from the Mediterranean and further east introduced agriculture. As these agricultural practices were slowly absorbed into the communities already living in Brittany, Brittany became a core area of megalithic culture. There are many monuments to this important period in Brittany’s history, the most famous of which is of course Carnac, a series of standing stones which includes the Broken Menhir of Er Grah in Locmariaquer which is the largest ever stone erection by Neolithic man. No laughing at the back.

Later Brittany became home to the following Celtic tribes: The Curiosolitae, Namnetes, Osismii, Redones , Veneti and the Hinaults, OK not that last one, and Brittany is one of the six Celtic nations.

Fast forward to the present day and Brittany had been characterised by a strong Catholic and conservative influence. However, in the industrial regions around Saint-Nazaire, Lorient and Tréguier the Socialist and Communist parties are popular, making these towns left-wing strongholds. Since the 1970s the Socialist party and the Greens, have become more and more powerful while the far-right has little popular support in Brittany.

Brittany is well know for its ocean sun fish,



The Breton horse,



The escargot de Quimper,



The freshwater pearl mussel, the white-clawed crayfish and the Brittany Gun Dog.

Macaloon

mididoctors wrote:

Macaloon wrote:

Are Sky pulling for sprinter's teams in return for future stage favours? Or are they just nice guys?

"sigh"

the yellow jersey team ride as hard enough to make the stage winnable so the sprinters take over late-earlier depending on the time gap from the jersey to the riders in the break on GC

Despite being 2 men down and having their ass handed to them on the previous stage? That's a sick note if they wanted it. No?

above_the_cows

ddraver wrote:

Further - would nt it be more accurate to say that Brittany has evidence of palaeolithic habitation?

Don't go using that 'evidence' word again. :P

above_the_cows

Lots of soldiers. Has there been a coup in Brittany?

alan_a

TheBigBean wrote:

Alan A wrote:

On a similar note fingers crossed for a Ten Dam podium.

I can't see that happening (the podium rather than the finger crossing) - just an armchair pundit view with no real basis other than the "Ten Dam who" school of thought.

He's been getting better and better each year. You gotta like a pro who puts his rides & races on Strava and gives them a name of guess strava gives me a tough suffer score today.

No way Ten Dam can get a Paris podium - he's got to have his big crash yet and ride the rest of the race with a big bandage wrapped around his face, hasn't he?

mididoctors

Macaloon wrote:

mididoctors wrote:

Macaloon wrote:

Are Sky pulling for sprinter's teams in return for future stage favours? Or are they just nice guys?

"sigh"

the yellow jersey team ride as hard enough to make the stage winnable so the sprinters take over late-earlier depending on the time gap from the jersey to the riders in the break on GC

Despite being 2 men down and having their ass handed to them on the previous stage? That's a sick note if they wanted it. No?

well it can all complicated and that but do you want to signal weakness... what if they sit up and do nothing?

perhaps they hope they can give the jersey to some other team for a week OR the tdf rides off down the road OR etc.

I think the sprinters will control things sooner rather than later tbh

TheBigBean

Alan A wrote:

He's been getting better and better each year. You gotta like a pro who puts his rides & races on Strava and gives them a name of guess strava gives me a tough suffer score today.

Sure, I can like him, but historically my liking a rider and them appearing on the podium is poorly correlated.

Crankbrother

mididoctors wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

... Froome articulated himself well on the doping issue (ES pre race coverage) ... but he does look like overcooked spaghetti on the bike when he's digging deep ...

I thought he was cr4p.. TBH. the idea we should all just forget it and move on no questions asked is laughable. He wants to have a go at anybody it should be the culture/riders/staff who got them all the reputation in the first place...I mean people are still testing positive for EPO in this years giro FFS!!!

I quiet like the nodding donkey thing, makes it look as hard. plus how on earth are you suppose to tell whether he is on a good day or not?

Cycling does have a problem ... but until there is a doping story linked to this Tour the journalists and coat-tail grabbers should focus on the myriad of other stories linked to the race ... Every rider, start town, region etc. has a story to tell ...

If I were a rider/DS I'd answer a doping question by asking if the journo was a shoplifter or serial adultarer ... just while we're asking daft questions ...

Macaloon

mididoctors wrote:

I think the sprinters will control things sooner rather than later tbh

It was only for a mo anyway. Think Lopez is now on supplementary O2 back at the docs.

frenchfighter

TheBigBean wrote:

Alan A wrote:

He's been getting better and better each year. You gotta like a pro who puts his rides & races on Strava and gives them a name of guess strava gives me a tough suffer score today.

Sure, I can like him, but historically my liking a rider and them appearing on the podium is poorly correlated.

I like the sound of that attitude.

Macaloon

Westra collecting the picnic for his breakaway chums. Class.

frenchfighter

adr82 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

I`m not wriggling out of anything but it looks like you are trying to save face. The alternative to you is to act like a man.

Since you apparently have such a problem with the intent of your post being misinterpreted, why didn't you write something along with the photo to make things clear? Everyone knows your opinions on Sky/Froome/SRMs, you never give that a rest. So IF you actually did intend to highlight Froome's riding style rather than his attraction to his SRM (which I doubt) you only have yourself to blame for everyone misunderstanding you.

Back down when you are losing. Continue at your peril. Life lesson; better you learn it now then portray this less than admirable attitude in the real World.

ddraver

Bagpipes on the I Spy List AtC?

disgruntledgoat

frenchfighter wrote:

adr82 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

I`m not wriggling out of anything but it looks like you are trying to save face. The alternative to you is to act like a man.

Since you apparently have such a problem with the intent of your post being misinterpreted, why didn't you write something along with the photo to make things clear? Everyone knows your opinions on Sky/Froome/SRMs, you never give that a rest. So IF you actually did intend to highlight Froome's riding style rather than his attraction to his SRM (which I doubt) you only have yourself to blame for everyone misunderstanding you.

Back down when you are losing. Continue at your peril. Life lesson; better you learn it now then portray this less than admirable attitude in the real World.

I for one am scared.

above_the_cows

ddraver wrote:

Bagpipes on the I Spy List AtC?

Sadly no.

I need to update the I Spy list.

mididoctors

Crankbrother wrote:

mididoctors wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

Would (half) you lot pick a number between one and shut-the-f-up ... We get it, some of you think you're the Bikeradar 'daddy' or part of some 'cool club' ... News just in, you're just typing stuff!!!

And back to the coverage ... Froome articulated himself well on the doping issue (ES pre race coverage) ... but he does look like overcooked spaghetti on the bike when he's digging deep ...

I thought he was cr4p.. TBH. the idea we should all just forget it and move on no questions asked is laughable. He wants to have a go at anybody it should be the culture/riders/staff who got them all the reputation in the first place...I mean people are still testing positive for EPO in this years giro FFS!!!

I quiet like the nodding donkey thing, makes it look as hard. plus how on earth are you suppose to tell whether he is on a good day or not?

Cycling does have a problem ... but until there is a doping story linked to this Tour the journalists and coat-tail grabbers should focus on the myriad of other stories linked to the race ... Every rider, start town, region etc. has a story to tell ...

If I were a rider/DS I'd answer a doping question by asking if the journo was a shoplifter or serial adultarer ... just while we're asking daft questions ...

ok I am Chris froome asked the question

I would start my answer with something like " Look I can understand given the ongoing history of the sport and drugs that these questions are raised but I think we need a more measured and rational approach in how we go about addressing this issue together as a sport and journalists......etc... not "i think its disrespectful" how stupid an answer is that. blah blah blah journalists asking to many questions blah blah... if he addressed the concern straight away there would be more talk on the race/tactics/ HOW THE F88K IS HE STILL IN THE JERSEY!...etc

cycling as sport as yet to earn respect on this issue and it will take YEARS if not DECADES more time before that happens, but I think it will.


meanwhile who's highest on GC in the break.

RideOnTime

We started yet??

Crankbrother

frenchfighter wrote:

adr82 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

I`m not wriggling out of anything but it looks like you are trying to save face. The alternative to you is to act like a man.

Since you apparently have such a problem with the intent of your post being misinterpreted, why didn't you write something along with the photo to make things clear? Everyone knows your opinions on Sky/Froome/SRMs, you never give that a rest. So IF you actually did intend to highlight Froome's riding style rather than his attraction to his SRM (which I doubt) you only have yourself to blame for everyone misunderstanding you.

Back down when you are losing. Continue at your peril. Life lesson; better you learn it now then portray this less than admirable attitude in the real World.

Put on your oven gloves and go stand in the corner ...

TMR

ddraver wrote:

mididoctors wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

ATC's Random Breton Guide

I've been to those stones - we went during our first TdF in 2011. Very impressive actually - no where near as big as Stonehenge in terms of mass, but a lot more stones with a far more intricate layout.

ddraver

Midi - I for one wouldnt mind awfully if doping questions were left until the rest day...

Asking it the day beofe, on the day and the day etc etc after just leads to the repeated banal, meaningless response we re used to at the moment. If there was one day then maybe riders/teams could prepare something a bit more substantial (unlikely I suppose)

above_the_cows

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mfin

frenchfighter wrote:

adr82 wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

I`m not wriggling out of anything but it looks like you are trying to save face. The alternative to you is to act like a man.

Since you apparently have such a problem with the intent of your post being misinterpreted, why didn't you write something along with the photo to make things clear? Everyone knows your opinions on Sky/Froome/SRMs, you never give that a rest. So IF you actually did intend to highlight Froome's riding style rather than his attraction to his SRM (which I doubt) you only have yourself to blame for everyone misunderstanding you.

Back down when you are losing. Continue at your peril. Life lesson; better you learn it now then portray this less than admirable attitude in the real World.

Does this apply to being condescending as well?

mfin

Shame to have such a yawnfest stage after the rest day, nowt much to watch until the end but the nice scenery.

FoldingJoe

Anybody going to Peleton in Spittalfields to watch the last few k?

above_the_cows

mididoctors wrote:

meanwhile who's highest on GC in the break.

J. OROZ Euskaltel Number 117 at +01:03:19.

frenchfighter

I wish Gilbert was wearing something similar to this helmet design: