Brian Cookson to run for UCI President

No_Ta_Doctor

TailWindHome wrote:

Why do the Twitterati imagine that UCI licence holders, specifically Cycling Ireland licence holders, necessarily have any interest in the presidency of the UCI, professional cycling or the whole USPostal debacle?

Everyone thinks that what is important to them is somehow important to others, or should be.

Worth noting that the Twitterati are all involved in some way (fan, rider, manager etc.) with PRO Road racing cycling. Dont hear BMX or Mountain bike people saying anything...

ddraver

The UCI tend to stay out of MTBing and BMXing....

thank god!

No_Ta_Doctor

ddraver wrote:

The UCI tend to stay out of MTBing and BMXing....

thank god!

Well they have worlds for both...

ddraver

...and World Cups. Luckily it seems to attract little attention from the Big wigs which allows people who actually know what they re talking about to run the sport. They just let them use their stripy logo

PBo

ddraver wrote:

The UCI tend to stay out of MTBing and BMXing....

thank god!

Pat presented the medals when i was at the women's Olympic MTB event

I hope the medalists realised it was pat that I was jeering, not them!

Richmond Racer

forgot to post Pat's crazy email to the nat feds on Monday

http://s4.skins.net/misc/NFs_Presidents ... 6_2013.pdf

(sorry, sorry, I know its been passed on by the lingerie salesman - pls forgive me)

ddraver

PBo wrote:

ddraver wrote:

The UCI tend to stay out of MTBing and BMXing....

thank god!

Pat presented the medals when i was at the women's Olympic MTB event

I hope the medalists realised it was pat that I was jeering, not them!

Oh they try and bask in reflected glory make no mistake, they do naff all to create it though - which given how bad they are at it on the road scene is usually seen as a positive...

yourpaceormine

After the opening salvo from Pat Ihave to say I am now very disappointed with this thread's title. It should be

"UCI Heavyweight clash:Pat v Bri Let's get ready to rumble"


Read some positive comments from Millar and Vaughters about Brian, is he as good as they say? Or is he the UCI equivalent of a stalking horse? Can we expect other candidates to pop up in the coming weeks?

No_Ta_Doctor

yourpaceormine wrote:

After the opening salvo from Pat Ihave to say I am now very disappointed with this thread's title. It should be

"UCI Heavyweight clash:Pat v Bri Let's get ready to rumble"


Read some positive comments from Millar and Vaughters about Brian, is he as good as they say? Or is he the UCI equivalent of a stalking horse? Can we expect other candidates to pop up in the coming weeks?

Given the people he's chosen to coordinate his campaign (highly successful in sports politics campaigns) I'd say he's hoping to go all the way himself, not just open it up for someone else. Pat's trying to put it about that he's a stalking horse for Makarov.

Macaloon

yourpaceormine wrote:

"UCI Heavyweight clash:Pat v Bri Let's get ready to rumble"

AKA "The Thiever in Geneva"

Richmond Racer

No tA Doctor wrote:

yourpaceormine wrote:

After the opening salvo from Pat Ihave to say I am now very disappointed with this thread's title. It should be

"UCI Heavyweight clash:Pat v Bri Let's get ready to rumble"


Read some positive comments from Millar and Vaughters about Brian, is he as good as they say? Or is he the UCI equivalent of a stalking horse? Can we expect other candidates to pop up in the coming weeks?

Given the people he's chosen to coordinate his campaign (highly successful in sports politics campaigns) I'd say he's hoping to go all the way himself, not just open it up for someone else. Pat's trying to put it about that he's a stalking horse for Makarov.

Agree with this. This is a serious campaign.

BTW if any other candidates want to declare, they have until 23 Jun I believe

iainf72

I don't trust anyone with a beard

I had to say it

inkyfingers

iainf72 wrote:

I don't trust anyone with a beard

I had to say it

Not even Santa Claus?

Richmond Racer

iainf72 wrote:

I don't trust anyone with a beard

I had to say it

Iain, this makes you a misopogonist

Richmond Racer

inkyfingers wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

I don't trust anyone with a beard

I had to say it

Not even Santa Claus?

Or Brian Blessed?? How can you...not after his towering performances in Flash Gordon and Blackadder

RichN95.

iainf72 wrote:

I don't trust anyone with a beard

I had to say it

Aren't that band you keep banging on about - Boards of Canada - bearded?

Macaloon

RichN95 wrote:

iainf72 wrote:

I don't trust anyone with a beard

I had to say it

Aren't that band you keep banging on about - Boards of Canada - bearded?

But Boards of Canada don't exist IRL. They're the product of a messy divorce settlement between Paul Morley and Pete Waterman.

deejay

Richmond Racer wrote:

Or Brian Blessed?? How can you...not after his towering performances in Flash Gordon and Blackadder

I Claudius he was clean shaven (repeat showing just finished) Don't forget "Z" Cars as Fancy Smith.

jimmythecuckoo

I hope he gets it. Has been around the UK scene long enough to see that grow and develop and will hopefully have the stones to stand up to those who see fit to manipulate the UCI into doing what they want of it.

DeadCalm

Richmond Racer wrote:

forgot to post Pat's crazy email to the nat feds on Monday

http://s4.skins.net/misc/NFs_Presidents ... 6_2013.pdf

(sorry, sorry, I know its been passed on by the lingerie salesman - pls forgive me)

Makarov's response to this seems pretty measured.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/makarov-responds-to-mcquaids-insinuations

RichN95.

DeadCalm wrote:

Makarov's response to this seems pretty measured.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/makarov-responds-to-mcquaids-insinuations

That's the public response.

The private response - involving a 12V battery, some bolt cutters and a 20 stone meathead called Yuri - will be less measured.

ddraver

Macaloon wrote:

yourpaceormine wrote:

"UCI Heavyweight clash:Pat v Bri Let's get ready to rumble"

AKA "The Thiever in Geneva"

That definitely did not get enough credit!

PBo

Reading that email, I'm stunned. He cannot seriously send that out from the presidents office! It's a smear campaign done with UCI funds in effect.

Surely there should be some split - he can say what he likes as an individual standing for office, but not as the office holder?

It's like when an election is called in UK. There are severe restrictions on what the civil service can communicate, but the party machines swing into overdrive.

if I was Walkiewicz I'd be calling him out on the "similar voting patterns suggest..." slander. And how can it be "confirmed" that Cookson met without knowing where?

So Cookson changed his mind? Whoop de do. And the crime is...?

To me, stuff about drug testing, lance, etc. and pat's success/failure still has a lot of subjectiveness to it, but surely this is objectively abuse of office?

Pat is a liability....

IanLD

http://road.cc/content/news/85059-legal ... s-back-uci

This looks good

Seems Pat has forgotten one of the UCI rules that you cannot be a member of two federations... That alone would negate his Swiss nomination, but it also seems that they didn't actually have a vote to nominate him.

ms_tree

Heard this today - thought ha ha Pat ain't going without a fight!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GvTDr8N5-4

Richmond Racer

Latest development....

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14744 ... ssion.aspx

andy_wrx

Richmond Racer wrote:

Latest development....

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14744 ... ssion.aspx

Now bits of that made me LOL

mr_poll

Why do the twitterati not like Cookson's bid - everytime it gets news they seem to have a pop. Tried to follow threads but end up in tangents about Sky & PEDs/Uci_Overlord or other garbage.
Does anyone on here think Cookson is more of the same/a poor choice?

ddraver

I think he's a good stepping stone between old and (potentially) new. The twaliban simply do not live in the real world. Gaudry is not going to be elected this time, nor is Greg Lemond or Paul Kimmage. If Cookson gets in then he can start balls rolling that need to be rolling whilst keeping the general machinations of the UCI going (which actually form the vast bulk of what happens in Aigle. That way people with genuinely new visions for the future (if any) can then take over

edhornby

DDraver may be onto something here - Cookson may be a kinda Gorbachev figure that starts to pull down the old regime but this could mean that the UCI gets pulled apart in the melee which actually could be just as bad as the current mess......