Wiggins crook?

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  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Wiggo Warrior wrote:
    Squirrelpie wrote:
    He must have suffered from mixed emotions after it ended. He did say he enjoyed the Olympic win more than the tour which seems very odd considering the tour was a much bigger achievement.
    I don't think it was a bigger achievement for him, as when he was interviewed after the Giro Time Trial it was the Olympic's Time Trial he referenced that he would have been inconsolable if the puncture had happened to him then, not the Tour. If he had had the equivalent puncture in the first time trial at the the tour the whole complexion of the race would probably have changed since Froome would have been much closer to the lead, as would Cadel and Nibali. Geraint Thomas has also been quoted as saying that if he could only be either a successful road cyclist or have the Olympics he would choose the latter. I don't know whether it is just very efficient brainwashing but in the BC circle at least the priority is set...[/quote

    Is that the same Geraint Thomas who always falls off his bike...would explain the Olympics angle cos you only have to ride your bike in a straight line 8)
  • MrT
    MrT Posts: 260
    Richmond Racer wrote:



    Taking Sean Yates and Shane Sutton away from him this year has also hit him hard IMO. As has everything going wrong that could go wrong. Wiggins is an athlete who functions best in order and with everything going to plan. His confidence is predicated on successful momentum - and there's been bugger all of that this year. It all hinges on whether he has the appetite to bounce back, to train like a monk for more months, it's all predicated on that.
    FWIW....really agree with this ...interesting to see SS coming back into the media frenzy. Whilst Steve Peters may be the Psychological guru....I would think SS was the no bullshit advice dispenser who kept BW's head in the right place. Masses of speculation at the mo and through it all I'm convinced that nobody really knows what's going on including BW. Either way ...bonkers to write him off.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The Bob Millar blog is good today.

    If the Froome thing is true, I doff my cap to him. Playa!
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    iainf72 wrote:
    The Bob Millar blog is good today.

    If the Froome thing is true, I doff my cap to him. Playa!


    If true, Fenton may be a 'playa' but he's also a first class tosser who's very happy for Wiggins to get the crap thrown at him by all and sundry as a spoilt brat and by the likes of Mad Rapper (no offence, MR, just using you as an example) for 'not being a real man' and supporting dear innocent Fenton.

    Gah. :evil:

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  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Holy christ. The use of the word, if indeed it is a word, "playa" on the BR forum. I really have seen it all now.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    MC has stated on twitter it isn't true. Signed a 3 year deal after his break out Vuelta performance
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    iainf72 wrote:
    MC has stated on twitter it isn't true. Signed a 3 year deal after his break out Vuelta performance


    Might play out better if she herself hadnt tweeted pre-Giro a massive hint that Wiggins wouldnt be lining up on the start line in Corsica, no?
  • MrT
    MrT Posts: 260
    Managing this whole thing sounds a PR nightmare and could well get out of hand.....with the additional input of MC I think if I was DB i'd be on the verge of exploding. Can imagine what SS would be muttering...
    perhaps if CF does go at the end of his contract any new team will write in some massive inclusions about reining in loose cannon girlfriends.
  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    iainf72 wrote:
    MC has stated on twitter it isn't true. Signed a 3 year deal after his break out Vuelta performance

    "MC" - who's that? (Apols for ignorance)
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    MC is Froome's other half

    To be honest, I don't think her utterances would register with DB. I suspect CF is a lot easier to deal with than BW
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,436
    Millar's blog is far too Daily Mail for my liking. Seems to be entirely based on rumour, some of which we already know isn't true.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    :D The contract stuff can't be true. No manager of DB's standing could submit to blackmail. The Immortal Mr Millar has been hacked. Or he's been listening to friends of wiggo with an interest in undermining St Christopher.

    It's such a pity that we won't see any on-the-road drama.
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  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    So far, for a casual and ill-informed onlooker like me, there would seem to be very, very little info on what is actually going on, and an awful lot of prejudices revealed by those posting & blogging what they would like to think is going on.
    Par for the course in the world of sports fans then, but I am quite surprised to see the normally balanced and insightful Millar joining in like that.
  • binkybike
    binkybike Posts: 104
    I might be able to take Mr Millar's opinions more seriously had he not pointed us in the direction of The Rules by Velominati as a "good read"...

    also a moments research could have found out that his story about Froome's contact is a load of balls...
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,718
    iainf72 wrote:
    Here's my take

    Wiggins is at that age where he's not going to get any better, only start to decline. Froome and Porte are both younger. Wiggins can be "difficult" and probably requires more managing than either Froome or Porte (despite people thinking MC is a gobby cow, I doubt that has any impact on the Sky management, and I gather they didn't dislike her on the team)

    So for the team, it makes sense to back those guys and retain their services.
    I make you right.

    There is definitely more to this as the wording of Sir Dave's statement wasn't definitive enough to say he is injured and out.

    The fact he made more of a deal about non-selection tells me there is another message in there.

    Plus if there is no conspiracy this thread is redundant...
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652
    I'm just wondering who sold Millar this dud.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    I'm just wondering who sold Millar this dud.


    ^this is what I'm very interested in (if it is a dud - though I'm still not so sure).

    So, Brian Smith, when you next pop in here as is your practice, perhaps you'd like to share some insight, bearing in mind that you were spouting this same claim on your Twitter feed on Sat night :?:
  • BrianS
    BrianS Posts: 112
    Robert's Blog is his own and edited by cyclingnews. Like always he has a mind of his own and will say it as he sees it. I believe he is still in contact with some friends from the past.
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  • philbar72
    philbar72 Posts: 2,229
    So, post injury and some good training, perhaps a Vuelta Podium and a silver in the world TT race. That's what i see happening if the knee isn't shot. he's still got a year or 2 as a GC contender, maybe 3 as a TT specialist...

    Don't think its as bleak as the crudloids would have you believe.
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    edited June 2013
    That Millar piece is frankly s**t. He's a former GT jersey winner writing for the worlds most popular cycling news website, but that reads like a blog written by some amateur cycling blogger with an agenda. I've enjoyed his work in the past, but this one reads like twitter gossip, poorly written, and edited by the work experience boy.
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  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    There's the satisfying "thwunk" of hatchets being buried, in faces, about some of this:

    TrainSharpSean (Sean Yates) 8:34am via Twitter for iPhone
    Just read the Robert Millar blog on cyclingnews Tales from the Underground #greatentertainment #andclosetotrue
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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    philbar72 wrote:
    So, post injury and some good training, perhaps a Vuelta Podium and a silver in the world TT race.

    My feeling is that Wiggo was the no1 TT rider last year, even allowing for Martin's injury earlier in the season. I think a fit (knee and head) Bradley would be on for the title, since getting the build-up competition miles aren't very relevant in the TT.

    Returning to the main thread, the Romandie bike parking was, for me, the turning point for him this season. Previous to that he was condesending to Nibali on the earlier stage by not contesting the finish, giving the message that he didn't need stage wins in a warm-up race. Clearly there were some niggling doubts: 'off the silly rings' - that would be the same ones that carried him to such success in 2012 - suggesting the inner chimp was playing up. It then took bad luck (gears) and a mistimed chase in Romandie for his confidence to fall off the cliff when faced with illness in the Giro.
    For the Vuelta, I think there will be a lot of effort to downplay expectations.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Macaloon wrote:
    There's the satisfying "thwunk" of hatchets being buried, in faces, about some of this:

    TrainSharpSean (Sean Yates) 8:34am via Twitter for iPhone
    Just read the Robert Millar blog on cyclingnews Tales from the Underground #greatentertainment #andclosetotrue


    Yep. Zinger from Yatesy there
  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    The article may be wrong, but it would be hard to see both Wiggins and Froome both riding for Sky in the 2014 tour, one of them has to go; and if Froome wins this year it won't be him.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Robert Millar is a heavyweight. You can 100% tell he is not a Sky fan.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    iainf72 wrote:
    If the Froome thing is true, I doff my cap to him. Playa!

    It would be a perfectly sensible thing to do. If this Froome guy is in his prime he wants to be able to bank a large salary and the other money aspects that would come from winning the Tour. Then fall off the face of performances.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    philbar72 wrote:
    So, post injury and some good training, perhaps a Vuelta Podium and a silver in the world TT race.

    My feeling is that Wiggo was the no1 TT rider last year, even allowing for Martin's injury earlier in the season. I think a fit (knee and head) Bradley would be on for the title, since getting the build-up competition miles aren't very relevant in the TT.

    Returning to the main thread, the Romandie bike parking was, for me, the turning point for him this season. Previous to that he was condesending to Nibali on the earlier stage by not contesting the finish, giving the message that he didn't need stage wins in a warm-up race. Clearly there were some niggling doubts: 'off the silly rings' - that would be the same ones that carried him to such success in 2012 - suggesting the inner chimp was playing up. It then took bad luck (gears) and a mistimed chase in Romandie for his confidence to fall off the cliff when faced with illness in the Giro.
    For the Vuelta, I think there will be a lot of effort to downplay expectations.


    Chase in Romandie...? IF he rides the Vuelta, I think you're spot on and woudnt be at all surprised to see it billed as racing prep for the Worlds rather than assault on GC. Would also not be that surprised if say Henao* is put up as racing for the GT GC experience, with Wiggins being the 'elder guiding stateman' alongside him. Might seem odd to say that or see Wiggins doing that, but given his bloody-mindedness he might do it as an FU to Fenton and to all the accusations that he wont support another rider - and with the end goal of Worlds afterwards. It also helps that Wiggins has the respect of the Colombians, as per Uran's words during the Giro.


    *especially as word in the Colombian press is that Henao has just signed a new 3 year deal with Sky. If Uran ends up re-signing, it may be Uran rather than Henao who gets the key ride at the Vuelta
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    He means Trentino, not Romandie. The "other" pre-Giro chipper.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    inkyfingers wrote:
    He means Trentino, not Romandie. The "other" pre-Giro chipper.


    Ah, ta.
  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,182
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Mad_Malx wrote:
    the Romandie bike parking was, for me, the turning point for him this season. ...
    It then took bad luck (gears) and a mistimed chase in Romandie for his confidence to fall off the cliff when faced with illness in the Giro.


    Chase in Romandie...? IF he rides the Vuelta, I think you're spot on and woudnt be at all surprised to see it billed as racing prep for the Worlds rather than assault on GC. Would also not be that surprised if say Henao* is put up as racing for the GT GC experience, with Wiggins being the 'elder guiding stateman' alongside him. Might seem odd to say that or see Wiggins doing that, but given his bloody-mindedness he might do it as an FU to Fenton and to all the accusations that he wont support another rider - and with the end goal of Worlds afterwards. It also helps that Wiggins has the respect of the Colombians, as per Uran's words during the Giro.


    *especially as word in the Colombian press is that Henao has just signed a new 3 year deal with Sky. If Uran ends up re-signing, it may be Uran rather than Henao who gets the key ride at the Vuelta

    Whoops - Trentino :oops:

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