The Scott CR1 SL Thread

spasypaddy

Rolf F wrote:

spasypaddy wrote:

i really want one

spasypaddy wrote:

BMC TM01 - FCN 0
Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
Premier (CX) - FCN 6
Premier (fixed/SS) - FCN 3

Behave!

It would be an upgrade on something im sure, not sure which... probably the CAAD 9. The CR1 has always been one of my favourite frames.

dhope

spasypaddy wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

spasypaddy wrote:

i really want one

spasypaddy wrote:

BMC TM01 - FCN 0
Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
Premier (CX) - FCN 6
Premier (fixed/SS) - FCN 3

Behave!

It would be an upgrade on something im sure, not sure which... probably the CAAD 9. The CR1 has always been one of my favourite frames.

Sounds like a solid plan. When you move the CAAD9 on, let me know. What size is it? C'mon and buy the SL already...

spasypaddy

dhope wrote:

Sounds like a solid plan. When you move the CAAD9 on, let me know. What size is it? C'mon and buy the SL already...

Its a 54, however the next issue is the CAAD9 is probably my favourite EVER frame. Its truly amazing. I wouldnt want to get rid.

So that would then leave me with having to build a CR1 up and having 6 bikes...

asprilla

spasypaddy wrote:

dhope wrote:

Sounds like a solid plan. When you move the CAAD9 on, let me know. What size is it? C'mon and buy the SL already...

Its a 54, however the next issue is the CAAD9 is probably my favourite EVER frame. Its truly amazing. I wouldnt want to get rid.

So that would then leave me with having to build a CR1 up and having 6 bikes...

I'm still not seeing any negatives here.

Origamist

colm_gti wrote:

My new Sunday best....



It might have been cheap to buy, but lets not forget this is a premium level frameset, and it feels every bit of it, a joy to ride!

Thanks for the pic - v nice looking rig.

I'm your height and went for the 58 and looking at the saddle to bar drop on the L 56 set up that's a little too steep for me (I ride in the drops quite a bit). Stem will be slammed and 120mm should be fine. I'm thinking Deda 35 shallow bars and stem...

Going to get mainly 105 parts, but with an Ultegra chainset at the weekend. This is going to be a Saturday mile muncher bike and sunny day commuter, not a Sunday best bike...

spasypaddy

Asprilla wrote:

spasypaddy wrote:

dhope wrote:

Sounds like a solid plan. When you move the CAAD9 on, let me know. What size is it? C'mon and buy the SL already...

Its a 54, however the next issue is the CAAD9 is probably my favourite EVER frame. Its truly amazing. I wouldnt want to get rid.

So that would then leave me with having to build a CR1 up and having 6 bikes...

I'm still not seeing any negatives here.

you may not but my bank account would. i just cant afford it

jonny_trousers

Please could one of you more mechanically minded people reassure me on something: I'm looking to order an entire Campag groupset for my bike, and where you have to select the type of bottom bracket I'm given a few options. Now, firstly, Westbrook actually included a set of Ultra-torque cups for 86.5 x 41 frames in my crate, and so I suspect I don't need any BB option with my groupset. However, when I made an inquiry with the shop I was told I'd need a 68 x 42. Is this nonsense?

Thanks in advance

veronese68

meanredspider wrote:

Been out for the inaugural ride with the boy - he likes the bike - slight stretch for him (first road bike and his operation scar was uncomfortable). 15 trouble-free miles on a gorgeous Highland evening with my son makes the expense and effort worthwhile.

Excellent. He looks very happy in the picture, understandably so it's a lovely bike.

SimonInd

Isn't this frame BB91 not BB86? or are they the same thing?

sloppyschleckonds

SimonInd wrote:

Isn't this frame BB91 not BB86? or are they the same thing?

Have you considered starting a separate thread to discuss?

andyrr

SimonInd wrote:

Isn't this frame BB91 not BB86? or are they the same thing?

Google

http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/02/17/bot ... breakdown/
The technology behind BB86/90 systems is similar to BB30, but it is designed to be used with existing external cup, two piece cranksets.
BB86 and BB90 get their names from the width of the shell (86mm and 90mm wide), while BB30 got its name from the 30mm spindle diameter.
Shimano’s own adaptation and proprietary interpretation of this technology is called the “Shimano Press Fit” bearing system. Shimano has not yet adapted any of their products to the BB30 system, and is instead investing its resources into its incompatible Press Fit systems.

also info here :
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... =3&t=93103

Lefthook

My understanding, and prepared to be corrected. They are and they are not.

BB91 is shimano term. BB86 is SRAM term

A BB91 compatible fram, such as the CR1, will fit a BB86 bottom bracket. The frame housing is the same.

But a BB86 compatible crank will not fit into the BB91 bottom bracket with out an adaptor, or replacing the bottom bracket. Some links to the adaptors etc can be found in the recent threads in this or the bargain thread.

jonny_trousers

Lefthook wrote:

My understanding, and prepared to be corrected. They are and they are not.

BB91 is shimano term. BB86 is SRAM term

A BB91 compatible fram, such as the CR1, will fit a BB86 bottom bracket. The frame housing is the same.

But a BB86 compatible crank will not fit into the BB91 bottom bracket with out an adaptor, or replacing the bottom bracket. Some links to the adaptors etc can be found in the recent threads in this or the bargain thread.

BB86 it is then! Thank you, sir!

Lefthook

If replacing the BB, then only thing to consider is how easy to remove the pre install BB91.

I understand that this needs a proper tool to drift out, so might be easier to get a LBS to do. I think videos on youtube of the removal install etc

Sharkyssurfers

its amazing how many have found their way on ebay, at around £650 each

keef66

Ooh! Just got an email saying mine's been despatched! Exciting!

It's going to be a bit frustrating cos we're off on holiday on Sunday for a week, then I've got an off-site 2 day meeting as soon as we get back

porlyworly

Final piece of the CR1 build puzzle purchased from the the bay of dreams - Dura Ace 7800 calipers! Hopefully everything will turn up in the post before next Friday as I've booked a days holiday to assemble. Excited much?

keef66

Sharkyssurfers wrote:

its amazing how many have found their way on ebay, at around £650 each

There's some bugger with about 8 of them all at £680 buy it now. I'll be pointing them out to my wife when I unveil my £499 bargain

veronese68

keef66 wrote:

Sharkyssurfers wrote:

its amazing how many have found their way on ebay, at around £650 each

There's some bugger with about 8 of them all at £680 buy it now. I'll be pointing them out to my wife when I unveil my £499 bargain

Shortly before she lists one on the Bay?

keef66

Veronese68 wrote:

keef66 wrote:

Sharkyssurfers wrote:

its amazing how many have found their way on ebay, at around £650 each

There's some bugger with about 8 of them all at £680 buy it now. I'll be pointing them out to my wife when I unveil my £499 bargain

Shortly before she lists one on the Bay?

Nooooo! She doesn't hold with all this internet auction malarkey. Not averse to a car boot sale though :shock:

alansd1980

dhope.... you have mail!

Koncordski

The headset cups go in without a fight, the crown race is going to have to wait until i get down to screwfix for a bit of plastic pipe.

keef66

Well bugger me. When I told her about the purchase she said "why didn't you buy two and Ebay one of them?"

Come to think of it, why didn't I?

It's apparently coming in just over an hour. Excited!

luv2ride

I'm eagerly awaiting delivery of mine. Got email from Westbrook saying dispatched, then a text from Interlink Express saying would be delivered today, but their online tracker hasn't yet been updated from "Shipping details received, awaiting receipt of parcel". Re: fitting the headset, is this really straightforward as a DIY job, or is it safest to get it to a LBS?

Koncordski

Luv2ride wrote:

I'm eagerly awaiting delivery of mine. Got email from Westbrook saying dispatched, then a text from Interlink Express saying would be delivered today, but their online tracker hasn't yet been updated from "Shipping details received, awaiting receipt of parcel". Re: fitting the headset, is this really straightforward as a DIY job, or is it safest to get it to a LBS?

It's a DIY job as long as you check everything twice before you do it and if it doesn't seem to be going right then stop and check again. My issue with the LBS is that you never really know how careful they are with your stuff. How do you know that the guy fitting the crown race hasn't stood the forks on the floor when he taps it down? I'd rather do it myself so that i know it's been done properly.

keef66

Well mine arrived smack in the middle of Interlink's 1 hour deliver slot, so top marks to them. All securely packed in the Original Scott box, which must weigh 5 times as much as the frame and forks. Frame proudly demonstrated to a gaggle of work colleagues who were suitably amazed by the extreme lightness of the thing. Press-fit Shimano BB already fitted. Little box inside the packaging with the bung, topcap, spacers, headset components and a Deda Dog-fang which I wasn't expecting but will be fitting. Well pleased

keef66

Luv2ride wrote:

I'm eagerly awaiting delivery of mine. Got email from Westbrook saying dispatched, then a text from Interlink Express saying would be delivered today, but their online tracker hasn't yet been updated from "Shipping details received, awaiting receipt of parcel". Re: fitting the headset, is this really straightforward as a DIY job, or is it safest to get it to a LBS?

I had 3 emails from Westbrook updating me and 2 text messages from Interlink. Can't say they don't keep you informed!

daniel_b

Just an idea, and feel free to shoot me down here.

Assuming there are perhaps 20 or so new cr1 owners on here, and some people have existing kit, but some people are after, in the main, 105 or Ultegra.
Might it be worth approaching Merlin, Ribble or somewhere else with a decent starting price, and see if we can broker some kind of discount for a 'group buy'?

markhewitt1978

Daniel B wrote:

Just an idea, and feel free to shoot me down here.

Assuming there are perhaps 20 or so new cr1 owners on here, and some people have existing kit, but some people are after, in the main, 105 or Ultegra.
Might it be worth approaching Merlin, Ribble or somewhere else with a decent starting price, and see if we can broker some kind of discount for a 'group buy'?

I'm buying a Pro - but yes I would be interested in some discount on an Ultegra 6700 groupset.

daniel_b

Duplicate annoying post.